Primo,winstrol & anavar cycle

[Gericho]

Heya Guys,

I am planning to start my first cycle ever with anabolic steroids. My stats are the following:
6.0 feet , 180 lbs, 25 years, average build body (without steroids) and waist 31.

Goal: Build lean muscle minimum 10 lbs and stay with the gains with the minimum chances for side effects.

The cycle is 12 weeks long:

Week 1 & 2 : 200 mg primo & 50 mg eod winstrol
Week 3 - 5 : 300 mg primo & 50 mg eod winstrol
Week 6 : 400 mg primo & 50 mg eod winstrol
Week 7 -9 : 400 mg primo & 20 mg ed anavar
Week 10-12: 400 mg primo & 30 mg ed anavar

Question 1: Is a post cycle therapy a must?
Question 2: If the answer 1 is yes ...what do I take and when (exact time frame after last oral anavar) and for how long?
Question 3: Do I take Liverprotex simultaneaously?
Question 4: Do I need something for hairloss?
Question 5: Will I get any trouble with "getting it up to play"?

Any other tips are welcome.

I thank you in advance for your knowledge...

Greetzzz...

 

[C.K.]

I'm about to run mast/primo and am throwing in a shot of sust a week just to keep things working no need to ramp the dosages keep it the same the whole way pct sticky is on the front page

 

[RickO'Shea]

Hey Bro if I can lend some advice. Usually when doing a first cycle we suggest only running one substance. It's far easier to diagnose a problem when we know where the problem is coming from. Meaning with 3 compounds if you have some gnarly sides we don't know what's causing it. The second thing I would suggest is Doing a little more research on setting up a cycle. There is a couple of tweeks that need to take place with yours. PCT is definitely a must, and I would suggest reading the Sticky on PCT and also Reading Nelson Montana's article Perfect PCT for 2010.

I know it's vague, but I feel if I just tell you you wouldn't learn as much as you could.
I wish you luck though.

 

[Gericho]

C.K the amount of dosages?

 

[Gericho]

Rick...very much appreciated...but the reason for the 3 compounds is because of low side effects...what would you suggest seeing my goal?

The ironic part is that this cycle was suggested by my own trainer....that is why i wanted to learn more from you guys...

 

[Voijn]

Oi.

As said before, the risk of side-effekt is higher since you are going to run 3 different compounds. Meaning that you will not know what of the 3 compounds is causeing the trouble. Could be headake, increased heart rate, ect ect ect.

The risk of getting a side effekt from anavar og winstrol imo, is the same. The sides are though milder
I experined dry joints after 100mg of winstrol a day, in 6weeks well i know that the winstrol was due to it.

in a anavar - winstrol cycle when hitting the dry joints i know that its the winstrol and therefore able to stop winny keep going on the var.


Anavar - Winstrol - Primo are the drugs that are going to give you that dry, hard solid look. perfeckt for the beach !
since var and win er livertoxic i would recommend liver protection.

If i where you i would run Primobolan only as my first cycle..
nearing summer i would run primobolan with var/winny for that extra hard solid look

when experinced u might go for the primo - win - var cycle?

Ever body is diffrent.. ull dont know how u react

 

[Gericho]

Waw Voijn thanks....

Question 1 : If i take the primobolan cycle only...Are the suggested dosages enough to see a change during those 12 weeks? Till know its a ladder cycle increasing with 100 mg...Do i need a Pct with primo? Any chances for hair loss?...

Question 2: Lets say i leave winstrol out....Would it be then a safer combination for 12 weeks?

Thank you in advance...

 

[C.K.]

There is no point in starting at a lower dose and then raising it just pick a dose and stick with it the whole way through as in

Week 1-4 winny 50 mgs ed
Week 1-12 Primo 400 mgs pw
Week 1-12 Test 250 mgs pw (doesn't matter here sust, test e, test c) no point in looking rock hard if you can't get your dick to do the same
Week 8-12 var 40 mgs ed

 

[RickO'Shea]

Rick...very much appreciated...but the reason for the 3 compounds is because of low side effects...what would you suggest seeing my goal?

The ironic part is that this cycle was suggested by my own trainer....that is why i wanted to learn more from you guys...

I totally understand man. Most trainers are just trainers though. Don't get me wrong there are exceptions but most just want to see results either on themselves or their clients and don't really look at the big picture. THE HEALTH.

I think Primo would be an excellent starting place at like 400mg ew for 12 weeks or the same duration and amount of Test Cyp. You could even run test prop for less weeks and it leaves your system faster. If you can afford it I'd stick with the Primo though.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Heya Guys,

I am planning to start my first cycle ever with anabolic steroids. My stats are the following:
6.0 feet , 180 lbs, 25 years, average build body (without steroids) and waist 31.

Goal: Build lean muscle minimum 10 lbs and stay with the gains with the minimum chances for side effects.

The cycle is 12 weeks long:

Week 1 & 2 : 200 mg primo & 50 mg eod winstrol
Week 3 - 5 : 300 mg primo & 50 mg eod winstrol
Week 6 : 400 mg primo & 50 mg eod winstrol
Week 7 -9 : 400 mg primo & 20 mg ed anavar
Week 10-12: 400 mg primo & 30 mg ed anavar

Question 1: Is a post cycle therapy a must?
Question 2: If the answer 1 is yes ...what do I take and when (exact time frame after last oral anavar) and for how long?
Question 3: Do I take Liverprotex simultaneaously?
Question 4: Do I need something for hairloss?
Question 5: Will I get any trouble with "getting it up to play"?

Any other tips are welcome.

I thank you in advance for your knowledge...

Greetzzz...

THis cycle is TOO LONG!!!

I get that you want to avoid sides and suppression and these are good choices for that. BUT, if you stay on that long you'll defeat the whole purpose.

You'll still also need PCT, though it would be faster will less suppressive compounds, but AGAIN,only if you get out before suppression gets severe. I'd say 8 weeks max.

Read the "PCT for 2010" sticky.

 

[Gericho]

Rick...i did read the article you suggested (good article)...If I run primobolan only do I still need the proviron in this case?

 

[Gericho]

THis cycle is TOO LONG!!!

I get that you want to avoid sides and suppression and these are good choices for that. BUT, if you stay on that long you'll defeat the whole purpose.

You'll still also need PCT, though it would be faster will less suppressive compounds, but AGAIN,only if you get out before suppression gets severe. I'd say 8 weeks max.

Read the "PCT for 2010" sticky.

Waw..I just read an article of you suggested by
rick...than see you comment on my...thread...thanks...

Question 1 :So could this cycle be shrinked? An run all of these 3 coumpounds together? or just primo?
Question 2: I have just read the pct article...it suggests than proviron would be a better option...when exactly do i take it?

Thanks in advance..

 

[Voijn]

I would say minimum dosage of primobolan would be 400ew in 8weeks, 10weeks would be perfect

What ever is going to increase you in size, speed, endurence, ect ect. will be more powerfull then your own hormon producktion.

if you body makes 70g of test a week, shoting 400g of test is way more then your body, it will shutdown its own produciton to try regulate the amount of test. though it can only get rid of 70g.

So yes, every roids will go and shut you down to some degree and yes PCT will be required.

Imo yield from the very bottem, do one cycle primobolan, then anavar. then combine primbolan and var.
then test - var.. test - var - deca ect.


I am not a big fan of needles/pins.. ive tried to shot my self with primobolan and found it quite hard! i hated it.
so im so far sticking on win and anavar cycles still one day if so ill do pinning.

 

[Gericho]

I would say minimum dosage of primobolan would be 400ew in 8weeks, 10weeks would be perfect

What ever is going to increase you in size, speed, endurence, ect ect. will be more powerfull then your own hormon producktion.

if you body makes 70g of test a week, shoting 400g of test is way more then your body, it will shutdown its own produciton to try regulate the amount of test. though it can only get rid of 70g.

So yes, every roids will go and shut you down to some degree and yes PCT will be required.

Imo yield from the very bottem, do one cycle primobolan, then anavar. then combine primbolan and var.
then test - var.. test - var - deca ect.

I am not a big fan of needles/pins.. ive tried to shot my self with primobolan and found it quite hard! i hated it.
so im so far sticking on win and anavar cycles still one day if so ill do pinning.

Thanks for the suggestion Voijn....How much increase could i expect with primo while on a very lean diet? (if it is not much asking)

 

[Voijn]

All of these questions uve got how much, blabla you really just gotta go for it buddy...
Aint much to it but to do it.

It aint wonderdrugs, u gutta bust your ass, eat like a dinosaur and sleep like a bear..
Write all of those questions down, when done with ure cycle reply them and tell us
i woul go for 400 primo ew, if ya wonna do em pills go for anavar 40mg or 60mg everyday for 6weeks

 

[Gericho]

Voijn you are right! Guys thank you for the input...two thumbs up!

Ok i Think i will go with the following:
week 1-10 : primo 400 mg eweek
week 6-10: anavar 30 mg ed
week 11-14: proviron

Does it sound ok? I will be starting January 31 with the cycle....any golden tips let me know

 

[quadGirl]

Hello this is my first post.
Would you guys say this is safe for a woman to run to gain size on a lean bulking diet?
And at what dose.
Was thinkin:
Primo 100mg per wk
Stanazol 10mg ed
Anavar 20mg ed

This isn't my first cycle.

Hope to hear back from someone soon.
Thankyou in advanced

Posted with my Droid EO Forum App

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Hey Quadgirl... Just copy and paste yer post there.... and start up a new thread... Good luck!

 

[magman1]

hey bro, here's my advice and really take it for what its worth. I'd just go an 8-10 week test cycle.
It doesn't seem like your knowledge is at the expert level....My worry would be you getting fake primo. Really no need for that until you get to fine tuning.