Primo ONLY

[the small soldier]

I know it's WAY early to even be thinking about a second cycle as I'm only 2/3 of the way through my first,[too much information] I want to plan a second cycle around Primo. I know a lot of the old school bodybuilders were fond of using primo sans test. I want to know if anyone has done primo only and how it went. what were the gains? what kind of PCT was run, etc?

 

[OMEGA]

you NEED some type of Androgen, Dbol at LEAST or 200-300 mgs of Tes a week For sexual function.

 

[the small soldier]

hmm. I've heard that it doesn't effect everyone the same (still I could run test with it). However; didn't Arnold run primo without test?

 

[OMEGA]

who knows
but we all know he loved Dbol, which is an Androgen WHICH is similar

 

[RADAR]

I Ran Primo only -No probs with libido- 600 per week I had enough for 12 wks i loved-the best thing about primo is you get results even in a calorie deficient diet!



But don't expect to hold thos gains if you continue what you're doing, ( Deficient diet i mean)

RADAR

 

[the small soldier]

trueee I wonder if 10 week high dose primo (500-600mg) low dose dianbol (5mg) cycle would be too hard on the body?

 

[the small soldier]

I Ran Primo only -No probs with libido- 600 per week I had enough for 12 wks i loved-the best thing about primo is you get results even in a calorie deficient diet!



But don't expect to hold thos gains if you continue what you're doing, ( Deficient diet i mean)

RADAR

thanks bro. The thing is I'm not going to be on a calorie deficient diet. I want to build more muscle end of story. I do however want to minimize fat gain and water retention by refining my diet (which I have been doing for the past month). So far it's working and I'm gaining weight and dropping BF. I want to continue bulking up a bit the second cycle, but I want to try a new compound without getting complicated.

 

[RADAR]

thanks bro. The thing is I'm not going to be on a calorie deficient diet. I want to build more muscle end of story. I do however want to minimize fat gain and water retention by refining my diet (which I have been doing for the past month). So far it's working and I'm gaining weight and dropping BF. I want to continue bulking up a bit the second cycle, but I want to try a new compound without getting complicated.

Whatever you use will accent your gains upon what you wish to achieve, remember to get at least one &1/12 grm of protein for every grm of bodyweight1 and you will grow like a weed, that is if you're in your 20's - late 40's

Good luck!

RADAR

 

[the small soldier]

yeah im actually trying to get 2 grams per because in reality i might not get exactly that. I do always to eat 6 times a day (at a minimum Usually i eat 8 or 9 times) and I aim for 40 grams of protein at a meal. sometimes I only get 300 grams, so I just eat as much food as I can. All food comes from wheat bread, oatmeal, cold cereal, pasta, rice, fruits vegetables, pork loin, steak, chicken, milk tuna, nuts, olive oil, and peanut butter. Litterally all my whole food meals consist of the above foods nothing more, its all I have access to where I am stationed. No fast food, sugar only post workout (usually white bread with jelly and a shake)

I want to make quality gains without the bloat and water, I'm thinking primo is def. the way to go.

 

[RADAR]

E=the small soldier;8458965]trueee I wonder if 10 week high dose primo (500-600mg) low dose dianbol (5mg) cycle would be too hard on the body?[/QUOTE]

NOPE!Just drink plenty of water,and 200mg of Milk thistle 2 X daily -MAKE SURE tou get the 80 % Standardized extract, Linburg nutrition has it at 7.99 per bottle

RADAR

 

[Nelson Montana]

Test was hardly used in the 60's and 70's. Duchaine "repopularized" it as a cheap alternative. (He was big on bargains. : ))

And yes, Omega is right. Dbol is a strong androgen. It'll raise test levels! People talk about mixing the two like it's some sort of magical combo. It's really just a lot of androgen.

 

[Ross]

Test was hardly used in the 60's and 70's. Duchaine "repopularized" it as a cheap alternative. (He was big on bargains. : ))

And yes, Omega is right. Dbol is a strong androgen. It'll raise test levels! People talk about mixing the two like it's some sort of magical combo. It's really just a lot of androgen.

Actually, Dianabol has a fairly WEAK androgenic component and it's effects are primarily NON-AR mediated.

As for the Primobolan cycle, you will not gain any appreciable amount of muscle mass on 400-600mg of Primobolan weekly. You have 3 options:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mg

or

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg

or

Weeks 1-6: Turinabol, 50mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually, Dianabol has a fairly WEAK androgenic component and it's effects are primarily NON-AR mediated.
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ACTUALLY, YOU'RE WRONG. ALTHOUGH LESS THAN TEST OBVIOUSLY, DBOL IS QUITE ANDROGENIC AND QUITE SUPPRESSIVE.


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As for the Primobolan cycle, you will not gain any appreciable amount of muscle mass on 400-600mg of Primobolan weekly. You have 3 options:


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THAT'S JUST NOT SO IF YOU KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND EAT, THOUGH I DO RECOMEND A LITTLE TEST WITH IT, BUT NOT MUCH.


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Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mg

or

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg

or

Weeks 1-6: Turinabol, 50mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg
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WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THESE FORMULAS? DO YOU JUST THROW NAMES AND DOSAGES AND LENGTHS OF TIME IN A HAT AND MIX AND MATCH THEM? YOU"RE ALSO CONTRADICTING YOURSELF IN THAT YOU:RE ADDING DBoL TO JUST 400 MGS OF PRIMO, WHICH I AGREE WILL WORK VERY WELL.

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[HOOKUP]

I like sust and primo cycle.
sust .5 ml eod
primo 200mg 2x a week
worked really well for me it was like i woke up one morning and looked in the mirror like HOLY SHIT!

 

[gautho]

I honestly beleive if your not doing Schering Primo...your not doing Primo! Your doing some sort of counterfeit!

 

[the small soldier]

Hmm lots of conflicting ideas here..I'm not looking to use any test if possible. I would prefer to run Dianabol with the primo. I really want to see how much I can gain with primo alone. I mean if its negligible I'll know not to use it again, but if I use it with test or sust. I won't be able to tell if the gains are from the primo or the test...What if just used MORE primo like 800 or 1000 a week? would that be over-kill or is that how much I would need to see good gains.

 

[Ross]

I honestly beleive if your not doing Schering Primo...your not doing Primo! Your doing some sort of counterfeit!

Bingo!

 

[Ross]

Hmm lots of conflicting ideas here..I'm not looking to use any test if possible. I would prefer to run Dianabol with the primo. I really want to see how much I can gain with primo alone. I mean if its negligible I'll know not to use it again, but if I use it with test or sust. I won't be able to tell if the gains are from the primo or the test...What if just used MORE primo like 800 or 1000 a week? would that be over-kill or is that how much I would need to see good gains.

My friend, I have ran Primo on many ocassions, it is one of my favorite compounds. However, just like Masteron, it will NOT BUILD SIGNIFICANT MUSCLE MASS, regardless of dosage. Your physique will continue to sharpen and define, your muscles will become ever more DENSE and HARD, but you will not blow up with MASS regardless of your dosage. I would say the same is true for Anavar and Oral Winstrol as well.

Do yourself a HUGE favor, add 1 shot of sustanon per week, you will ACTIVATE the Primobolan by doing so. You will have fantastic gains my friend, with virtually zero side-effects.

Priombolan by itself = good for cutting.

 

[the small soldier]

My friend, I have ran Primo on many ocassions, it is one of my favorite compounds. However, just like Masteron, it will NOT BUILD SIGNIFICANT MUSCLE MASS, regardless of dosage. Your physique will continue to sharpen and define, your muscles will become ever more DENSE and HARD, but you will not blow up with MASS regardless of your dosage. I would say the same is true for Anavar and Oral Winstrol as well.

Do yourself a HUGE favor, add 1 shot of sustanon per week, you will ACTIVATE the Primobolan by doing so. You will have fantastic gains my friend, with virtually zero side-effects.

Priombolan by itself = good for cutting.

I'll seriously consider adding some sust or test in that case, however; I'm not looking to gain quality mass not a lot of extra water....As for the primobolan being fake. It's not I buy direct from a licensed pharmacy.

 

[Ross]

I'll seriously consider adding some sust or test in that case, however; I'm not looking to gain quality mass not a lot of extra water....As for the primobolan being fake. It's not I buy direct from a licensed pharmacy.

Why are you under the false impression that Sustanon will not provide QUALITY MASS gains???? That is utter NONSENSE my friend!

Sustanon is in fact my favorite Testosterone preparation, and it produces substantially less water-retention than any other ester, aside from Propionate. At a MINIMUM dosage of just 250mg per week, you will pack on tons of lean tissue, especially with the help of our good friend Uncle Primo.

Because of the ultimate synergism between these two compounds, only small dosages of each are required. I would even throw in the Dianabol for the first 6 weeks at 25mgs ED.

It seems that you are unfortunately influenced by many of the silly internet falsehoods that exist, don't let ANYONE convince you that Dianabol and Testosterone do not produce quality muscle. ONLY when you exceed moderate dosages, does alot of the weight gain become water. At the dosages I suggested, you will have no such problems.

 

[the small soldier]

Why are you under the false impression that Sustanon will not provide QUALITY MASS gains???? That is utter NONSENSE my friend!

Sustanon is in fact my favorite Testosterone preparation, and it produces substantially less water-retention than any other ester, aside from Propionate. At a MINIMUM dosage of just 250mg per week, you will pack on tons of lean tissue, especially with the help of our good friend Uncle Primo.

-Do you shoot the sustanon 1x per week?


Because of the ultimate synergism between these two compounds, only small dosages of each are required. I would even throw in the Dianabol for the first 6 weeks at 25mgs ED.


-Took Dianbol for 4 weeks and LOVED it...for the most part kinda made me feel woozy sometimes


It seems that you are unfortunately influenced by many of the silly internet falsehoods that exist, don't let ANYONE convince you that Dianabol and Testosterone do not produce quality muscle. ONLY when you exceed moderate dosages, does alot of the weight gain become water. At the dosages I suggested, you will have no such problems.

- Well I know the dianbol did a lot for me and I'm on low dose test which also is doing wonders, I was just concerned I wouldn't really know what gains are coming from primo and what is coming from test. Also understand I have only ever used two compounds so I don't really know what to expect.

 

[OMEGA]

I honestly beleive if your not doing Schering Primo...your not doing Primo! Your doing some sort of counterfeit!

NOT true lol

but we know how you feel till you find honest UG

 

[Nelson Montana]

I honestly beleive if your not doing Schering Primo...your not doing Primo! Your doing some sort of counterfeit!

But that can be couterfeited too.

 

[OMEGA]

But that can be couterfeited too.

YES! it is

 

[aquatic_glories]

Schering primo is sold at pharmacies in my country. Although it needs prescription, buying it is easy as hell.
Let me give an example.

One time I walked into the pharmacy and asked for tamoxifen (no prescription), the guy looked at me for a short time and said- Do you want anything else primobolan, sustanon, preglynn ?? And it happened in one of the most famous pharmacies in the country.

Second is when you start to shop from somewhere a lot it becomes easy. You buy all your needles, hcg , ketoral , adex, femara over there then you just have to say one sentence :

- "I want to buy X amps of primobolan and my muscles are the prescription"

Nice way, huh??

 

[michaelChicago]

why primo only cutting ?

i think that, the diet is very important in this factor.

if you kcal is high, the gains are very solids.

primo is for cutting or bulking, the roids not distinguishable from cutting or bulking...

the diet , is the most important .

400 mg of primo + 250 of test, is a good cycle, if you add 50 mg wins EOD, perfect

 

[Ross]

why primo only cutting ?

i think that, the diet is very important in this factor.

if you kcal is high, the gains are very solids.

primo is for cutting or bulking, the roids not distinguishable from cutting or bulking...

the diet , is the most important .

400 mg of primo + 250 of test, is a good cycle, if you add 50 mg wins EOD, perfect

Not all steroids produce copious amounts of muscle mass, some steroids simply do not have the capacity to do so, andnot simply based on an anabolic:androgenic ratio.

For example, of course you can BULK on only Primobolan, but the amount of muscle gained would be feeble compared to a BULK on low dose Testosterone or even low dose Dianabol. In addition, Primobolan has remarkable AR binding affinity, making it capable of maintaining(and even BUILDING) muscle mass during extreme calorie defecits.

I have been down this road, trust me and add a minimum dosage of testosterone to the Primobolan, bon appetite!

 

[dabuffguy]

I have been down this road, trust me and add a minimum dosage of testosterone to the Primobolan, bon appetite!

Why would someone NOT use a little bit of test with it?

That's the question.

Even if it's 100-200mg weekly, there's no reason to not be taking test with your other compounds.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Why would someone NOT use a little bit of test with it?

That's the question.

Even if it's 100-200mg weekly, there's no reason to not be taking test with your other compounds.

+1

Though a lot may disagree, I believe test should be the basis to almost every cycle.

 

[dabuffguy]

+1

Though a lot may disagree, I believe test should be the basis to almost every cycle.

yep.

If you have to do oral onl for one reason or another, then okay, do with what you got.

But, if you are gonna pin, Throw in some test atleast. easy to come by.

 

[the small soldier]

yeah I have test, but my thing is I want FEEL what the Primo does in my body, how will I distinguish the primo gains from the test gains

 

[Barch]

What would be the minimum amount of Test(to have minimal side effects) that could be used to see good gains in combination with Primo? 100mg/week? 200? 300?

 

[GdupM6]

I was thinking of doing a Test E/Var cycle, do you guys think its better to replace the var with primo?

 

[michaelChicago]

What would be the minimum amount of Test(to have minimal side effects) that could be used to see good gains in combination with Primo? 100mg/week? 200? 300?

250 mg is perfect, the risk is minimum in a health body.

 

[Ross]

yeah I have test, but my thing is I want FEEL what the Primo does in my body, how will I distinguish the primo gains from the test gains

At that dosage of Testosterone, it will simply FACILITATE the Primobolan gains. You will experience remarkable synergy, but you will notice the Primobolan when your muscle look like ROCKS! Testosterone alone does not do that

 

[the small soldier]

At that dosage of Testosterone, it will simply FACILITATE the Primobolan gains. You will experience remarkable synergy, but you will notice the Primobolan when your muscle look like ROCKS! Testosterone alone does not do that

sweetness!