primo and mastoron alone?

[the562goodguy]

hey guys i was wondering if it would be worth the cost to take
primo 400mgs wk
mast. 300mgs wk
im looking for some solid gains. but i like the fact that this will have little sides and and wont completely shut me down so there will be no need for hcg and i might be able to get away with post cycle and unleashed for pct.
let me know what you guys think.

 

[GUARDIAN]

dont run both primo or mast. too similar imo. i would drop the mast and choose the primo.

 

[Ross]

Are you attempting to BULK on that cycle?

5-10lbs in 10 weeks TOPS, and that is if you are LUCKY and eat everything in sight and train like Ronnie Coleman!

For a CUTTING cycle, that is simply superb.

I would add a minimum dosage of Testosterone(200-250mgs), you will be VERY PLEASED.

 

[ryno9000]

dont run both primo or mast. too similar imo. i would drop the mast and choose the primo.

I could be wrong, and you are the last guy I really want to openly question, but aren't they almost opposites? Yes they both are for leaned out people, but one is pure anabolic the other is pure androgen. Right?

 

[flajice]

dont run both primo or mast. too similar imo. i would drop the mast and choose the primo.

Is it true u should only run masteron if your very lean, being its for pre-contest? Just something I always heard, never ran it myself was just curious?

 

[the562goodguy]

well Im trying to put on 5-10lbs while getting leaner...
stats:
6'3"
215lbs
12.5% bf
would get better results subing the masteron for whinny? or something like that?

ps thanks for all of your reponses so far!

 

[swole]

Are you attempting to BULK on that cycle?

5-10lbs in 10 weeks TOPS, and that is if you are LUCKY and eat everything in sight and train like Ronnie Coleman!

For a CUTTING cycle, that is simply superb.

I would add a minimum dosage of Testosterone(200-250mgs), you will be VERY PLEASED.

i agree with ross

throw a low dose of test in there per week

run both the test and primo for 10-12 weeks minimum

PCT will be a breeze

 

[access]

well Im trying to put on 5-10lbs while getting leaner...
stats:
6'3"
215lbs
12.5% bf
would get better results subing the masteron for whinny? or something like that?

ps thanks for all of your reponses so far!

I would look maybe to Mast and Eq in a stack and finish with some winny.

 

[338lapua]

+1 on the test at 250 a week with primo

 

[GUARDIAN]

I could be wrong, and you are the last guy I really want to openly question, but aren't they almost opposites? Yes they both are for leaned out people, but one is pure anabolic the other is pure androgen. Right?

Both DHT derivatives, both do not aromatize, both have an anabolic rating to androgenic rating of about 2:1, and both can be used as a weak anti-e.

Primo is more DHT neutral while Masteron is not (this is why mast tends to cause hair loss more frequently than primo, prostate enlargement, high bp, etc.). BB's do tend to use mast more for pre-contest.

That is just my $0.02.

 

[DannoMight]

Both DHT derivatives, both do not aromatize, both have an anabolic rating to androgenic rating of about 2:1, and both can be used as a weak anti-e.

Primo is more DHT neutral while Masteron is not (this is why mast tends to cause hair loss more frequently than primo, prostate enlargement, high bp, etc.). BB's do tend to use mast more for pre-contest.

That is just my $0.02.

I always do the 2 along with a few more compounds for my precontest cycles.

 

[eddymerckx]

both pretty close--i think mast makes you look a bit harder and primo gives you more of a dried-out look---neither of which i have seen in myself in a while........and imho both need to be run with at least a bit if test.

ana/andr
mast 62:25
primo 88:50

rate at which both makes eddy's hair fall out: really high


and ryno--i edited your post by accident--i think i fixed it though---no one said i was the bright one

 

[ryno9000]

and ryno--i edited your post by accident--i think i fixed it though---no one said i was the bright one

Haha no worries! There is a 0.000001% chance that there was anything of value in there to begin with lol. Just curious, where do you guys get the info for Anabolic/Androgenic ratings? Is there one "ultimate" source that has all compounds accurately rated? I always thought the rating was based on 1-100, but then I saw something that gave anavar like 326 anabolic and 120 androgenic or something. I'm just curious what the industry standard data site is.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Haha no worries! There is a 0.000001% chance that there was anything of value in there to begin with lol. Just curious, where do you guys get the info for Anabolic/Androgenic ratings? Is there one "ultimate" source that has all compounds accurately rated? I always thought the rating was based on 1-100, but then I saw something that gave anavar like 326 anabolic and 120 androgenic or something. I'm just curious what the industry standard data site is.

get some roid books, google "steroid ratings" (pay attention to the source), and use your personal experience with the compounds. u r right u will see different numbers everywhere just like with half-lives and the such. i dont believe there is an industry standard.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It won't build a ton of size but you'll be be hard as nails. No need for an anti e while on, but I'd still recommend the HCG/ POST CYCLE/UNLEASHED/Sustain PCT since there may be a little estro backlash and you're going to miss all that wonderful, excess DHT. No need to go overboard with the HCG though. Those compounds aren't horribly suppressive if you keep the duration under 12 weeks.