Preventative Joint Supplementation

[draxxius]

Mike Martial,

I have heard from various sources from the food industry that fish oils are quite fickle liquids. Apparently, the ones in capsules are usually old and generally useless. The best way, they say, is to just eat the fatty fishes.


Another suprising note, compared to 1901's fish population, today, there is just 1% of that population left.....isn't that crazy?

 

[draxxius]

They say that eating fish 2 - 3 times a week is enough for the heart, but I am not sure about the joint/connective tissue. From what I've read, I would make the glucosamine/msm/chondroitin mixture top priority, then fish oils.

As far as our bodies making it up until 40, I believe if you are young, and suffer damage/stress to the connective tissues, extra supplies will only help. I remember speaking to a nutritionist at gnc. She was older, and had a white coat, she must have been knowledgable enough. She said her son, who was 17 or so, had a shoulder injury, and the glucosamine made it heal a lot faster than normal.

I like the walkout/overloading idea. I do farmer's deadlift with 300 lbs total, and shrug that, along with holding it for 20 secs. for about 3 sets. As I am holding this weight, I do a slight lunge position, and it really strengthens the legs, connectively tissue speaking.

 

[MikeMartial]

I remember speaking to a nutritionist at gnc. She was older, and had a white coat, she must have been knowledgable enough.

I hope that sentence was drenched in sarcasim.... Because DAY-UM it made me laugh!!!

But on a serious note, thanks for the reply, and the advice on Gluc/Chon!

 

[Maverick]

This could probably go in the sup forum, but I'd rather get a perspective from a martial artist rather than a bodybuilder.

What style of martial arts do you practice?
Do you supplement with anything to protect your joints?
Do you currently have joint issues?

Myself, I practice TKD and MT.
I take 6 capsules of concentrated salmon oil per day (2400mgEPA/1200mgDHA)
I take approx 3000mg Vitamin C
I do not currently have any joint issues.

The reason I bring this up is because 1) It's very common for martial artists to develop inflammation in the elbows, shoulders, hips and knees. Also, 2) My knees have been a bit "creaky" lately, and I have have been wondering about more preventative measures.

your a pussy, without the hair......... TKD guys get PWNED by BJJ guys

 

[MikeMartial]

your a pussy, without the hair......... TKD guys get PWNED by BJJ guys

the 14 y/o kid said PWNED!!!

(Plus, he doesn't know what MT stands for )

 

[Djimbe]

Mike ;

Saw a study recently about the WAY a MA moves in relation to the Joint Damage . It turns out that The "Chamber and SNAP" school of Motion ala the Okinawan/Japano/Korean schools of pugilism has been connected with causing some Joint Issues , as has the Breakfalling style ala Judo and its Offshoots , as opposed to Wrestling and Shuaijiao's falling style . Styles such as Muay Thai , most Chinese Systems , and Savate wich SWING their kicks have far lower incidents of Practitioners in need of Hip and Knee replacements in their Later years .

 

[MikeMartial]

It turns out that The "Chamber and SNAP" school of Motion ala the Okinawan/Japano/Korean schools of pugilism has been connected with causing some Joint Issues .

I have no doubt that style of training lends itself to damaged joints; as a teen, my karate sensei would NOT let us "snap" any of our kicks---he had trained this way for years, and both his knees were shot. His style was a hybrid combo of kickboxing with traditional karate. Later on, almost every traditional style of karate I took taught the "snap" versus "thrust". The TKD I took also utilizes the "snap".

Styles such as Muay Thai , most Chinese Systems , and Savate wich SWING their kicks have far lower incidents of Practitioners in need of Hip and Knee replacements in their Later years .

As far as MT is concerned, the biggest difference I notice versus traditional karate or TKD is training with heavy bags and/or pads. In both my karate and TKD classes, we rarely every used a heavy bag or shield---most of the training was done in a "controlled" setting (eg, throwing a roundhouse kick and stopping within inches from your partners temple). While this may teach control, it (IMO) also plays havoc on your joints.

In my MT class, we always utilize either focus mitts, thai pads, or body armor. While it may not teach total control for beginners, it sure as hell feels better on the joints. Having that energy transfered to a bag/pad versus being absorbed by a knee/hip/elbow/shoulder makes a world of a difference.

 

[Bozwell]

been doing bjj and mt Ive always been ito power lifting and I find that cod liver oil 2g ed , 3-4 glucosamine500mg/chrondonrtin400mg/msm100mg tabs ed ,and lots of water ,water lubes you up good
also been looking at a product callled bio sil, a natural silicon product to streanthen joints

 

[Stillhere7]

HA- Hyaluronic Acid



It ends there.

 

[MikeMartial]

HA- Hyaluronic Acid

It ends there.

Interesting; I haven't heard of this supplement. I'll have to look into it!