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Big Buck
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don't get married for a LONG time....
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only good for the filthy rich
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oh god yes, i have seen firsthand in DETAIL what happens when you don't get prenups. You'll end up spending more on lawyer fees for the divorce proceedings than just simply getting a prenup
it does not cheapen the marriage whatsoever if you are both havet he understanding of WHY you are doing it and why you feel it is a good idea, if you don't agree to that extent, you shouldnt get married
only get married if u can literally agree on everything in my opinion.
it does not cheapen the marriage whatsoever if you are both havet he understanding of WHY you are doing it and why you feel it is a good idea, if you don't agree to that extent, you shouldnt get married
only get married if u can literally agree on everything in my opinion.
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Binky said:_________________________________________
your ex-wife is trying to suck your money and
belonging away from you.
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Amen brother.....
WF I wish you'd shit on my ex.......
I would..but there's that whole ugly
order of protection thing
You ARE kiddding, right?
As for prenups I don't believe in them because I don't know if I believe in legal marriage. Do I believe in a committed relationship where both parties work towards common goals, where they support each other as well as pull thier own weight? YES. But the fucking legalities are soooooooo GODDAMNED IM-FUCKING-POSSIBLE to wade through without handing all the money to the lawyers - ESPECIALLY when one of the parties has HIS head up his ASS!!! It shouldn't be all that hard to divorce. I mean, if you don't want to be married, fucking cut your losses and get out....DO NOT DRAG THE OTHER PERSON THROUGH HELL JUST TO "PUNISH" THEM.....If someone does not want to be in relationship w/me then BYE - CYA got no troubles. The children though, should be protected....and even with all of the fucking laws there ARE STILL GOBS of DEADBEATS soooooooo I guess, THAT arguement goes right out the window.
I dunno, I am in a REALLY SHITTY mood just now and I may retract what I am saying at a later point in time, but somehow I doubt it.
MARRIAGE FUCKING SUCKS ASS. And for all you guys who think the woman takes all of your possessions for "sitting on her ass" (she was only fucking cooking, cleaning, caring for YOUR children and allowing you the freedom to excell at your career while taking care of EVERYTHING ELSE) - because my lawyer is involved in some "BIG" case, he fucking dropped the ball and left some VERY IMPORTANT ppwrk on his desk and NEGLECTED TO TELL ME TO BRING SOME OTHER VERY IMPORTANT PPWRK to court.....so guess what?! Even though I have primary residential custody and the house - I have to pay for phone and cell phone bills that are three months in arears (he was SUPPOSED to pay for them...the judge didn't see it that way). He is pleading poverty but went out and leased a BRAND SPANKING NEW CAR (true, he needed his own vehicle that was big enough to hold all of the kids....but a BRAND SPANKING NEW ONE?...He could've EASILY borrowed his sister's car ...which is what I did when he would take the car to visit w/the kids. So I have to make my own car payment. And the judge basically said, "The kids will be in school fulltime now - get a job." Which is all good. I have been busting my ass to make a buck for quite some time...but if I have NO ONE to watch the kids...... All of the money I earned this summer went to keep the kids in camp - How much do you think it costed to keep four kids in camp for just ONE WEEK?!.... Judge didn't want to hear it.
Bottom line - NO CHILD SUPPORT, NO SPOUSAL SUPPORT until the ppwrk is produced and since my lawyer is "busy" for the next two weeeks that means ZERO MONEY FOR MINIMUM Another 3-4 weeks.
Yea - real fair after fucking 13 years of my life dedicated to my family....yea, I did nothing but sit on my ass while my kids were running the streets dirty and hungry.
PUH-LEASE.
It's all good though. I have the girls and we have a place to live, the rest will be taken care of eventually.
Dave
Yes. Protect your assets.
Just know that prenups have no impact on child support, and the courts feel that each parent should proivde a similar standard of living to the children.
Yes. Protect your assets.
Just know that prenups have no impact on child support, and the courts feel that each parent should proivde a similar standard of living to the children.
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I believe in prenups and plan to have one the day I get married.
Am I planning to leech off my ex-wife when I divorce her? No... hell, I'm not even planning to divorce her. Why should it bother me?
Is my future wife planning to divorce me and take everything the twisted courts will give her? If not, then why should it bother her?
The only fiancees who would have a problem with getting a prenup are the ones who don't plan to stay with you forever. That goes for both men and women. Anyone who does have a problem and claims he or she still loves you is full of shit.
-Warik
Am I planning to leech off my ex-wife when I divorce her? No... hell, I'm not even planning to divorce her. Why should it bother me?
Is my future wife planning to divorce me and take everything the twisted courts will give her? If not, then why should it bother her?
The only fiancees who would have a problem with getting a prenup are the ones who don't plan to stay with you forever. That goes for both men and women. Anyone who does have a problem and claims he or she still loves you is full of shit.
-Warik
Once again, I'll agree with my new friend WeaponX, when I say...If you need a prenuptual agreement signed, you must not be too sure of the woman you're marrying.
The ONLY way I could see having one is if I were extremely...and I mean EXTREMELY rich...like billions of dollars, not even millions of them.
It cheapens the deal, IMO.
Love conquers all...
Bear in mind, though, that I am not a big fan of divorce in general!!
The ONLY way I could see having one is if I were extremely...and I mean EXTREMELY rich...like billions of dollars, not even millions of them.
It cheapens the deal, IMO.
Love conquers all...
Bear in mind, though, that I am not a big fan of divorce in general!!
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Badkins21 said:
Humans are humans. If I'm going to marry a woman it means I love her to death and plan to be faithful until I leave this wretched place, but as I said, humans are humans - I will never trust another human being to that capacity.
Call it one of my flaws or call it one of my steps towards perfection... with the kind of infidelity and promiscuity you see today, it's a wonder some people get married WITHOUT prenups.
-Warik
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Warik - if you truly beleive that promiscuity and infidelity are the most prevalent reasons for a divorce you are in for a rude awakening.
When I said,"Till death us do part" I meant it. But after I nearly DID die (inside or by my own behaviour...pcik one, it matters not)...after SERIOUS soul searching of nearly THREE YEARS I realized that my children would be better off with a mother WHO WAS ALIVE than to have two parents married to each other but had ZERO respect or compassion for each other as human beings.
Love....what is love? I have said it before and I will say it again. If I NEVER hear another man tell me that he loves me...but SHOWS me every day that he cares for me and respects me as his life partner - I will die happy. My children tell me that they love me every day, that is more than enough.
No more words....only actions, they speak VOLUMES.
When I said,"Till death us do part" I meant it. But after I nearly DID die (inside or by my own behaviour...pcik one, it matters not)...after SERIOUS soul searching of nearly THREE YEARS I realized that my children would be better off with a mother WHO WAS ALIVE than to have two parents married to each other but had ZERO respect or compassion for each other as human beings.
Love....what is love? I have said it before and I will say it again. If I NEVER hear another man tell me that he loves me...but SHOWS me every day that he cares for me and respects me as his life partner - I will die happy. My children tell me that they love me every day, that is more than enough.
No more words....only actions, they speak VOLUMES.
Bikinimom,
no offense here as I always find your posts good but...
I completely disagree with what you said earlier,
I did have a good marriage, 13yrs, 2 kids, I worked and
helped with everything. My ex had cancer and I had to
raise the 2 kids for over a year while she was sick and still go to
work, In addition to taking her everywhere for treatment.
Even right up to the end, I still trusted her as I always had.
And how did she repay me???
Well, we were out looking for a new home
with a realtor and the very next day I find my 'buddies'
underwear in my wash, so I get suspicious and find
birth control pills ( I've been fixed for years),
A cell phone and visa card with the bill being sent to my
good 'buddy'. When I confront her, she calls the cops and
boom! I'm out of my house for good, I couldn't see my kids
for a month etc: Etc: She claims I was abusive and choked her
blah blah! I should've...at least I would have gotten my monies
worth outta my lawyer.
18 months later she's still trying to milk me for every penny she
can get, I already gave her the house (I couldn't stay in it after knowing what she did with him in my bedroom!), our new car and $363,000 from my stocks and had to pay for her lawyer. All because she decided she had
enough and was entitled to all that. It's Bullshit!
She never worked a day in her life and she still doesn't which
is why she wants more money, she's already pissed away all
that I've given her in a year!!!! What's the catch??? I ended
up with the kids so there's no fucking reason for her to stay at
home and not work...she's just a welfare case.
It's sick, it's wrong. And I'll tell you something else...
Every guy I hang with who has been divorced had nearly
the exact same thing happen to them.
It's like...in divorce court, if you are the guy, you are GUILTY
until proven inncocent. It's not fair!
Now, I've meet someone else and am very serious with her and
I DO trust her, however there is no fuckin way in hell I'll get
married again without a pre-num and I've told her straight up.
I'm more than willing to give a fair share to an ex-spouse but
I will NOT take it up the tailpipe for some 'ENTITLED' woman.
Sorry to rant.
Carry on!
no offense here as I always find your posts good but...
I completely disagree with what you said earlier,
I did have a good marriage, 13yrs, 2 kids, I worked and
helped with everything. My ex had cancer and I had to
raise the 2 kids for over a year while she was sick and still go to
work, In addition to taking her everywhere for treatment.
Even right up to the end, I still trusted her as I always had.
And how did she repay me???
Well, we were out looking for a new home
with a realtor and the very next day I find my 'buddies'
underwear in my wash, so I get suspicious and find
birth control pills ( I've been fixed for years),
A cell phone and visa card with the bill being sent to my
good 'buddy'. When I confront her, she calls the cops and
boom! I'm out of my house for good, I couldn't see my kids
for a month etc: Etc: She claims I was abusive and choked her
blah blah! I should've...at least I would have gotten my monies
worth outta my lawyer.
18 months later she's still trying to milk me for every penny she
can get, I already gave her the house (I couldn't stay in it after knowing what she did with him in my bedroom!), our new car and $363,000 from my stocks and had to pay for her lawyer. All because she decided she had
enough and was entitled to all that. It's Bullshit!
She never worked a day in her life and she still doesn't which
is why she wants more money, she's already pissed away all
that I've given her in a year!!!! What's the catch??? I ended
up with the kids so there's no fucking reason for her to stay at
home and not work...she's just a welfare case.
It's sick, it's wrong. And I'll tell you something else...
Every guy I hang with who has been divorced had nearly
the exact same thing happen to them.
It's like...in divorce court, if you are the guy, you are GUILTY
until proven inncocent. It's not fair!
Now, I've meet someone else and am very serious with her and
I DO trust her, however there is no fuckin way in hell I'll get
married again without a pre-num and I've told her straight up.
I'm more than willing to give a fair share to an ex-spouse but
I will NOT take it up the tailpipe for some 'ENTITLED' woman.
Sorry to rant.
Carry on!
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Binky - I am not saying that it is ALWAYS THE GUY....hell, of MOST of the men that I speak with (on their second marriage and happy or just happy to be rid of the HELL the ex put them through) - the women have behaved in ways that just boggle MY MIND.
Of course, there are 3 sides to every story: her side, his side, and somewhere in between lies the truth. But I am experienced (sadly) enough to know when a man is blowing a line of shit about his ex and when he is genuine and sincere. How? By the way he speaks about his ex, the marriage and most importantly, where the children are in the list of priorities in his life. I am not talking about some guy who SEZ "I LOVE MY KIDS" ...I am talking about his actions.
I can NOT imagine how someone could treat thier husband that way after he did all that you did for her! But then again, many who know MY SIDE of "the story" (I have LEGAL DOCUMENTS to back me up, transcripts that prove I was truthfull and he was bald-faced LYING) or just know me and my relationship w/my children can't figure out how my ex could've treated me the way that he did.....
I am happy that you have found someone to share your life with and hope that you will find all that you deserve with her....and this I mean SINCERELY!!!
As for the prenupt, I can't say how I feel about it one way or another because I HONESTLY do not see how I would EVER LEGALLY tie myself to another man. My children already have a father and I can and do earn my own money.....and though I did NOT work outside the home once the children were born - I TOOK CARE OF EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE END OF OUR BUSINESS......so regardless of how many men "feel" - I am entitled to HALF - no more, no less. I have primary residential custody. The children see him two afternoons p/week and every other weekend and this is ONLY BECAUSE I OFFERED IT! I HAD FULL CUSTODY NEARLY ALL SUMMER.....the only reason he saw them as often as he did was because he never hurt the children and THEY MISSED HIM TERRIBLY. I did not see my oldest on her birthday and I did not have them on mine. If I did not put THEIR NEEDS before my own (as my ex has been doing) this would all have been MUCH UGLIER.
I do not need sympathy or anyone to tell me I am right and he is wrong. There were no victims here, ONLY VOLUNTEERS - WE DID IT TO EACH OTHER. The ONLY TRUE VICTIMS are our beautiful daughters...they did not ask to be born and deserved NO LESS than TWO PARENTS who could pull thier heads out of their asses and put the children's needs before their own selfish desires.....but you know, it TAKES TWO.
My ex is running around bad-mouthing me to all who will stand still for 30 seconds. He keeps going on and on about how I cheated on him. Yea? Well, all I have to say is that I was faithful until my head hit the ground. He only raised his hand to me ONCE in 13 years...I promptly threw his sorry ass out and told him that we were over. He could go his way and I SURE AS HELL was going MY WAY! Were we STILL LEGALLY married? Yes (We STILL FUCKING ARE). But I moved out of the bedroom in January after I saw that he put a fucking spy cam on me in our computer room (because in his sick twisted mind I was having cybersex). He left that fucking thing up there for A WEEK and acted NORMAL. When I discovered it, I lost touch with reality and fucking blew a headgasket. He took it down and was sorry, but for me, trust had been violated. I could NEVER forgive him for that - NEVER. He could not have hurt me more if I had caught him in bed with my own sister (Not that THAT would EVER happen!).
Long story short - there was NOTHING on the fucking tape OF COURSE and he destroyed any shred of respect or hope or love that I had had for him. I had been unhappy for some time and asking for a divorce for nearly 3 years. Bad got worse, he hit me, he was out - I moved on! PERIOD.
Of course, there are 3 sides to every story: her side, his side, and somewhere in between lies the truth. But I am experienced (sadly) enough to know when a man is blowing a line of shit about his ex and when he is genuine and sincere. How? By the way he speaks about his ex, the marriage and most importantly, where the children are in the list of priorities in his life. I am not talking about some guy who SEZ "I LOVE MY KIDS" ...I am talking about his actions.
I can NOT imagine how someone could treat thier husband that way after he did all that you did for her! But then again, many who know MY SIDE of "the story" (I have LEGAL DOCUMENTS to back me up, transcripts that prove I was truthfull and he was bald-faced LYING) or just know me and my relationship w/my children can't figure out how my ex could've treated me the way that he did.....
I am happy that you have found someone to share your life with and hope that you will find all that you deserve with her....and this I mean SINCERELY!!!
As for the prenupt, I can't say how I feel about it one way or another because I HONESTLY do not see how I would EVER LEGALLY tie myself to another man. My children already have a father and I can and do earn my own money.....and though I did NOT work outside the home once the children were born - I TOOK CARE OF EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE END OF OUR BUSINESS......so regardless of how many men "feel" - I am entitled to HALF - no more, no less. I have primary residential custody. The children see him two afternoons p/week and every other weekend and this is ONLY BECAUSE I OFFERED IT! I HAD FULL CUSTODY NEARLY ALL SUMMER.....the only reason he saw them as often as he did was because he never hurt the children and THEY MISSED HIM TERRIBLY. I did not see my oldest on her birthday and I did not have them on mine. If I did not put THEIR NEEDS before my own (as my ex has been doing) this would all have been MUCH UGLIER.
I do not need sympathy or anyone to tell me I am right and he is wrong. There were no victims here, ONLY VOLUNTEERS - WE DID IT TO EACH OTHER. The ONLY TRUE VICTIMS are our beautiful daughters...they did not ask to be born and deserved NO LESS than TWO PARENTS who could pull thier heads out of their asses and put the children's needs before their own selfish desires.....but you know, it TAKES TWO.
My ex is running around bad-mouthing me to all who will stand still for 30 seconds. He keeps going on and on about how I cheated on him. Yea? Well, all I have to say is that I was faithful until my head hit the ground. He only raised his hand to me ONCE in 13 years...I promptly threw his sorry ass out and told him that we were over. He could go his way and I SURE AS HELL was going MY WAY! Were we STILL LEGALLY married? Yes (We STILL FUCKING ARE). But I moved out of the bedroom in January after I saw that he put a fucking spy cam on me in our computer room (because in his sick twisted mind I was having cybersex). He left that fucking thing up there for A WEEK and acted NORMAL. When I discovered it, I lost touch with reality and fucking blew a headgasket. He took it down and was sorry, but for me, trust had been violated. I could NEVER forgive him for that - NEVER. He could not have hurt me more if I had caught him in bed with my own sister (Not that THAT would EVER happen!).
Long story short - there was NOTHING on the fucking tape OF COURSE and he destroyed any shred of respect or hope or love that I had had for him. I had been unhappy for some time and asking for a divorce for nearly 3 years. Bad got worse, he hit me, he was out - I moved on! PERIOD.
Bikinimom,
Points well taken, especially about the children,
It has been major hell trying to keep them on a
even keel with this. Especially my son
But, I still cannot comprehend how I was treated so badly
by someone I loved and trusted so much,
and then to go out and slander my name and reputation,
ruined me as a kids hockey coach! All to justify her
own whoring around.
It's just unbelievable!
Fortunately, as I said I've meet someone who is
just perfect, my kids love her too! She is aware
of the entire situation and god bless her, she is
restoring my faith in marriage and trust.
But...I will have a pre-num this time.
Cause you never know.....
By the way I'm sorry to hear what you went thru
Congats though, on doing the right things, it's not
always easy.
FWIW, I had to play the game from start to finish
in the court to come out with what was important (kids)
so If I can ever help ya or answer any questions about
what to expect....Just drop me a line.
Yes I am bitter! Sorry, I'll get over it someday
Now I've got to get back to work drawing mustaches on
my Ex's face in our old wedding pictures....
Points well taken, especially about the children,
It has been major hell trying to keep them on a
even keel with this. Especially my son
But, I still cannot comprehend how I was treated so badly
by someone I loved and trusted so much,
and then to go out and slander my name and reputation,
ruined me as a kids hockey coach! All to justify her
own whoring around.
It's just unbelievable!
Fortunately, as I said I've meet someone who is
just perfect, my kids love her too! She is aware
of the entire situation and god bless her, she is
restoring my faith in marriage and trust.
But...I will have a pre-num this time.
Cause you never know.....
By the way I'm sorry to hear what you went thru
Congats though, on doing the right things, it's not
always easy.
FWIW, I had to play the game from start to finish
in the court to come out with what was important (kids)
so If I can ever help ya or answer any questions about
what to expect....Just drop me a line.
Yes I am bitter! Sorry, I'll get over it someday
Now I've got to get back to work drawing mustaches on
my Ex's face in our old wedding pictures....
FrankRizzo
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Bikini Mom,
You seem to be one of the few level headed women I have EVER run into. I wish the woman that I have a daughter with tended to my DAUGHTER'S needs more than her own. Anything she can do to make my life miserable and keep Meghan from me she will do. Now she has an unemployed husband and looks my direction for more money. I can better provide for my daughter than she can, I think I should have custody, but NO, the damn courts are sexist as hell.
As for the Prenupt deal. HELL YES. especially if you have much cash before some high priced gold digging whore leeches/latches on to you after you made it. If she loves YOU and not the MONEY then there is no question that she will sign it. Why not? It's you she wants, not the money, RIGHT? NOOOOOTTTTT.
I saw some 25-30 year old Blonde bombshell hanging all over Tony Bennett's 75 year old ass at the US Open. What a horrible situation. You can't tell me she likes his saggin old balls all up on her. NO WAY, sorry ladies.
Someone once told me on here that there is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone because they have money. BULLSHIT, money isn't what forms a good relationship, love is. If money is an issue AT ALL, the relationship won't work.
You seem to be one of the few level headed women I have EVER run into. I wish the woman that I have a daughter with tended to my DAUGHTER'S needs more than her own. Anything she can do to make my life miserable and keep Meghan from me she will do. Now she has an unemployed husband and looks my direction for more money. I can better provide for my daughter than she can, I think I should have custody, but NO, the damn courts are sexist as hell.
As for the Prenupt deal. HELL YES. especially if you have much cash before some high priced gold digging whore leeches/latches on to you after you made it. If she loves YOU and not the MONEY then there is no question that she will sign it. Why not? It's you she wants, not the money, RIGHT? NOOOOOTTTTT.
I saw some 25-30 year old Blonde bombshell hanging all over Tony Bennett's 75 year old ass at the US Open. What a horrible situation. You can't tell me she likes his saggin old balls all up on her. NO WAY, sorry ladies.
Someone once told me on here that there is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone because they have money. BULLSHIT, money isn't what forms a good relationship, love is. If money is an issue AT ALL, the relationship won't work.
FrankRizzo
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BUT, BikiniMom.....What the hell is Spousal Support? If men and women are equal then there should be no such animal. If you want custody of the kids, then you get to work and keep them. Not get custody and take money from your ex in lieu of child support to further support you. You are the one who must be kidding here??? If he can tae the kids without having to receive "spousal support" from you, then he should have primary custody in my opinion.
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Binky, Rizzo I feel for you - I REALLY DO.
Not ALL WOMEN are whores and not ALL MEN are dogs. I am also bitter and trying desperately NOT to be, for the sake of my girls. Not that I have bitterness towards their father specifically, but towards humanity in general.
I have become guarded, untrusting, and lonely. This is killing me more than anything else. The thought that I will NEVER again have ONE PERSON to share all of my hopes and dreams with along with all of my deepest darkest secrets and worst fears without the worry that they will some day throw them up to me in the midst of a fight. I had this once, and now it is gone. He has gone and told EVERYONE all that I had confided in him at my weakest most vulnerable moments.....not only a court room full of strangers, but now all those that we decided were not really our friends while we were "happily" married are now his closest friends. Ironic, isn't it?
Today, was my girls' first day back to school. There were some moms there that trained at the gym where my ex and I used to train. I could tell which ones had heard his filthy, pathetic mouth because they looked at me, but didn't smile or say, "Hello." It's ok, because my girls love and respect me....is there really anything more that I will need out of life?
Thanx for your understanding and support. I wish you BOTH well!
PS - Binky - LMAO@ that last comment....mustaches on wedding pictures!!!!!
Not ALL WOMEN are whores and not ALL MEN are dogs. I am also bitter and trying desperately NOT to be, for the sake of my girls. Not that I have bitterness towards their father specifically, but towards humanity in general.
I have become guarded, untrusting, and lonely. This is killing me more than anything else. The thought that I will NEVER again have ONE PERSON to share all of my hopes and dreams with along with all of my deepest darkest secrets and worst fears without the worry that they will some day throw them up to me in the midst of a fight. I had this once, and now it is gone. He has gone and told EVERYONE all that I had confided in him at my weakest most vulnerable moments.....not only a court room full of strangers, but now all those that we decided were not really our friends while we were "happily" married are now his closest friends. Ironic, isn't it?
Today, was my girls' first day back to school. There were some moms there that trained at the gym where my ex and I used to train. I could tell which ones had heard his filthy, pathetic mouth because they looked at me, but didn't smile or say, "Hello." It's ok, because my girls love and respect me....is there really anything more that I will need out of life?
Thanx for your understanding and support. I wish you BOTH well!
PS - Binky - LMAO@ that last comment....mustaches on wedding pictures!!!!!
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I DO WORK! ...But since I was home with the kids for 10 years I do not have a "career". I was not out climbing the corporate ladder while some minimum wage employee was "parenting" my children.
When I work, the sitter takes A HYUGE cut of my pay. So now, explain to me, if I have them MOST OF THE TIME (with the exception of 2 afternoons p/week and every other weekend) why I do not deserve anything for the time that I invested in our family? I did NOT abandon our marriage - HE DID. Our business is A MARITAL ASSET - I am entitled to HALF. I worked like a fucking dog to make sure that the bills got paid and our children were cared for. This is worth NOTHING?!
All the money that I earned this summer went to pay for the kids' summer camp. What do you think it cost to keep them there? I have four, remember? He paid for two weeks and that was it. I paid for the rest and I did it gladly and willingly and would do it again. My girls were so happy to have someplace to go to escape the misery that was their life. I have glad to have someplace safe to send them where they could be kids for the day and not pawns of an ugly divorce.
As for the ex having custody. I DID NOT ASK FOR FULL CUSTODY - the court awarded it to me at the FINAL PROTECTION ORDER hearing. This is not a TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER - it does NOT EXPIRE WITH TIME - IT IS FOREVER.
I would have been willing to even remain under the same roof with him until we could better afford to physically separate, but he was a fucking obsessed maniac who made our lives hell. I tolerated it as long as I could, but I finally went to the authorities when he threatened to kill their fucking whore mother in front of our children. So now, you tell me....who was the one who fucked things up?
All I wanted was a divorce. I wanted joint legal and physical custody. I thought we could be civil and speak and make sure that we could both work and have lives will the children were our main priority. He was too busy thinking about his penis pride and how bruised his ego was that I didn't want it any more. The truth is, I put him on a fucking pedestal and when I asked for him to help me up next to him, he wasn't having it......so I asked for out. His answer, "Bitch, you go, but the kids stay w/me." Really?! This from a man who had never even cut thier finger nails?
You tell me.....
When I work, the sitter takes A HYUGE cut of my pay. So now, explain to me, if I have them MOST OF THE TIME (with the exception of 2 afternoons p/week and every other weekend) why I do not deserve anything for the time that I invested in our family? I did NOT abandon our marriage - HE DID. Our business is A MARITAL ASSET - I am entitled to HALF. I worked like a fucking dog to make sure that the bills got paid and our children were cared for. This is worth NOTHING?!
All the money that I earned this summer went to pay for the kids' summer camp. What do you think it cost to keep them there? I have four, remember? He paid for two weeks and that was it. I paid for the rest and I did it gladly and willingly and would do it again. My girls were so happy to have someplace to go to escape the misery that was their life. I have glad to have someplace safe to send them where they could be kids for the day and not pawns of an ugly divorce.
As for the ex having custody. I DID NOT ASK FOR FULL CUSTODY - the court awarded it to me at the FINAL PROTECTION ORDER hearing. This is not a TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER - it does NOT EXPIRE WITH TIME - IT IS FOREVER.
I would have been willing to even remain under the same roof with him until we could better afford to physically separate, but he was a fucking obsessed maniac who made our lives hell. I tolerated it as long as I could, but I finally went to the authorities when he threatened to kill their fucking whore mother in front of our children. So now, you tell me....who was the one who fucked things up?
All I wanted was a divorce. I wanted joint legal and physical custody. I thought we could be civil and speak and make sure that we could both work and have lives will the children were our main priority. He was too busy thinking about his penis pride and how bruised his ego was that I didn't want it any more. The truth is, I put him on a fucking pedestal and when I asked for him to help me up next to him, he wasn't having it......so I asked for out. His answer, "Bitch, you go, but the kids stay w/me." Really?! This from a man who had never even cut thier finger nails?
You tell me.....
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PS - Do you honestly believe that I would spend money on MYSELF BEFORE MY CHILDREN? If I had a dime for every time I held my fucking bodily functions because this one needed her hair brushed, or that one wanted help putting butter on her pancake or the third one couldn't find her shoe, or the baby was crying AGAIN - I would NOT NEED SPOUSAL SUPPORT.
Bottom line - I have the children MOST OF THE TIME - I have been EXTREMELY LIBERAL with allowing him the opportunity to see the children MUCH MORE than the court allowed. So when I am working, SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR CHILDCARE....and this should be me because........?
Bottom line - I have the children MOST OF THE TIME - I have been EXTREMELY LIBERAL with allowing him the opportunity to see the children MUCH MORE than the court allowed. So when I am working, SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR CHILDCARE....and this should be me because........?
Just to clarify, my girlfriend wants a prenup whenever she gets married and she is the one with the money and career right now while Im the starving student. Basically she has the money and stuff to protect by getting a prenup and I dont. I wanted feedback on peoples opinion of this.
Superdave,
Well, that shed's a whole new light on the subject...
I'f you've got a chance to take some chicks money
after your done fucking her, by all means go for it.
Soak her, use her like a cheap toupee,
put naked pictures of her on the voyeurweb afterwards but....
Do not sign the prenum, you'll get nothing...
Give it back to her for us fella's who got screwed.
j/k
Well, that shed's a whole new light on the subject...
I'f you've got a chance to take some chicks money
after your done fucking her, by all means go for it.
Soak her, use her like a cheap toupee,
put naked pictures of her on the voyeurweb afterwards but....
Do not sign the prenum, you'll get nothing...
Give it back to her for us fella's who got screwed.
j/k
Not interested in taking her to the cleaners???
Oh man, your gonna get screwed with that attitude!
When she leaves you penny-less, home-less and
with a broken heart, you'll wish you listened.
Listen up, in life there are only 2 positions
Fucker or fuckee.
You gotta decide what position your gonna take.
Oh man, your gonna get screwed with that attitude!
When she leaves you penny-less, home-less and
with a broken heart, you'll wish you listened.
Listen up, in life there are only 2 positions
Fucker or fuckee.
You gotta decide what position your gonna take.
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I don't know the laws in the state where you reside, but where I live if you had it BEFORE the marriage, then it IS NOT a marital asset, so it is NOT subject to distribution in the case of a divorce.
Everything my ex and I had we acquired JOINTLY, thus it is subject to equitable distribution (the law in my state) with the exception of 10K that he had in a savings account that he had BEFORE we started dating. So that money is ALL HIS. He also bought a condo BEFORE we were married, declared chapter 7 (or whatever that is when you walk away from some debt, but not all) and because the lawyer FUCKED UP and had MY NAME on the papers MY CREDIT IS NOW FUCKED....real fair. He made DAMNED SURE he got his 10K, but he isn't so jumpy when it's coming to fixing MY CREDIT for a STUPID real estate investment he made BEFORE I MET HIM.......it's all good because it is only money.
Everything my ex and I had we acquired JOINTLY, thus it is subject to equitable distribution (the law in my state) with the exception of 10K that he had in a savings account that he had BEFORE we started dating. So that money is ALL HIS. He also bought a condo BEFORE we were married, declared chapter 7 (or whatever that is when you walk away from some debt, but not all) and because the lawyer FUCKED UP and had MY NAME on the papers MY CREDIT IS NOW FUCKED....real fair. He made DAMNED SURE he got his 10K, but he isn't so jumpy when it's coming to fixing MY CREDIT for a STUPID real estate investment he made BEFORE I MET HIM.......it's all good because it is only money.
Well,
I am poor, don't own anything nice except a few weights and a nice pro dj set-up. Hmmm...what do I have to lose anyway?
B True
I am poor, don't own anything nice except a few weights and a nice pro dj set-up. Hmmm...what do I have to lose anyway?
B True
FreakMonster
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ANY MAN that is wealthy should get a prenup in my opinion. In today's society divorce is at an all time high, more than 50% chance. You never know what's gonna happen so your better off safe than sorry.
I know I will get one if I am wealthy when I get married.
And nothing pisses me off more than gold diggin whores, especially that Anna Nicole Smith SLUT!!!!
I know I will get one if I am wealthy when I get married.
And nothing pisses me off more than gold diggin whores, especially that Anna Nicole Smith SLUT!!!!
Come on guys...quit being so fuckin short-sighted,
You may not be rolling in asset's today, but what
about 20 years from now????
Geez, I didn't have shit when I got married at 22yrs, but when I got divorced at 36, it was a whole different game.
You CANNOT go back and get it retro-actively.
You may not be rolling in asset's today, but what
about 20 years from now????
Geez, I didn't have shit when I got married at 22yrs, but when I got divorced at 36, it was a whole different game.
You CANNOT go back and get it retro-actively.
Most prenups can be broken in court. Look at Barry Bonds, his ex hade a signed sealed and delivered one and her lawyers got it voided on the first whack.
My in-laws wanted me to sign one before I married their daughter. I flat out told them no way. Took them 10 years before they finally figured out I married for love and not money.
My in-laws wanted me to sign one before I married their daughter. I flat out told them no way. Took them 10 years before they finally figured out I married for love and not money.
Binky, Im sorry you got fucked, but my girlfriend is successful and hard working and knows the value of earning what she has. My point in this thread was that she is the one who believes in prenups (we havent discussed marriage at all, just the concept of prenups), so I dont think she is interested in fucking me over since she wants a prenup, which would prevent anyone from getting fucked over when/if she gets married. Does that make sense? I simply never considered a prenup when I got married so it surprised me when she said she would get one when she gets married.
Dave,
Is she from a wealthy family? Last I heard she was looking for a job for like $70K. Hardly the stuff of prenups.
Blair,
Do you have any idea how much money $20million is? I would protedct the hell out of that.
Is she from a wealthy family? Last I heard she was looking for a job for like $70K. Hardly the stuff of prenups.
Blair,
Do you have any idea how much money $20million is? I would protedct the hell out of that.
Well Dave,
All I'm saying is go into it with your eyes open.
I do find it odd that she would want this though???
especially having never been burned...err I mean
married before.
Just remember, she may love you now but,
Leave the toilet seat up once or twice and.....
well, you know.....your history!
And there was a tiny bit of embellishment and sarcasm
in my responses.
All I'm saying is go into it with your eyes open.
I do find it odd that she would want this though???
especially having never been burned...err I mean
married before.
Just remember, she may love you now but,
Leave the toilet seat up once or twice and.....
well, you know.....your history!
And there was a tiny bit of embellishment and sarcasm
in my responses.
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Half is too much for tying shoes and buttering pancakes. If i can afford it my kids (when I have them) will be in a private boarding school as soon as they can be. When they are home for summers they will have a nanny. Then maybe they won't be so screwed up that they can't deal with being without their mother to go away to school and become successful. Mothers smother their children and ruin any hope of independence they may ever enjoy, all for their own self satisfaction and justification to sit around and not do shit. Staying home is MAYBE worth 25%, but certainly not half.
She is not from a wealthy family, she just believes that you never know how someone will feel in 10 or 20 years or whatever and doesnt want anyone getting her retirement she is saving. Guess I better ask her what she is worth to see if it is justified. I can understand what she is saying, but going into something like a marriage requires utmost trust, and Im really trying to see how someone wanting a prenup shows they trust you completely (?).
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I hate divorce... but women have screwed me over sooo many times it makes it hard for me to trust one. So I will have a lenghty prenup!!!!!
I will make sure if she tries to leave me she will get what she came with.
I will make sure if she tries to leave me she will get what she came with.
SuperDave---One day, tell her that you cant believe what your parents just told you. They told you that you have a trust fund that will be worth 5 million dollars that your great grand father left for you. But you cant get to it until you are 30 years old. Your parents told you that before you get married, that you WILL have a prenup. Let that go on for quite some time and then see how she stands on prenups. If she decides to change her feelings on them. Then you know there will be problems down the road.
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Thanx dude, I'm trying my best 
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FrankRizzo said:
I just have to shake my head and smile because there is no arguement for what you've just said...NONE WHATSOEVER. The only way that I could even BEGIN to comprehend your arguement is that perhaps growing up your were treated like you didn't matter, perhaps (and I am NOT trying to be disrespectfull IN THE LEAST) your own caretaker (I am convinced that it could not have possibly been your mother, although I could certainly be wrong.) cared more about the TV clicker than stopping what they were doing because as a child - YOU NEEDED SOMETHING.
How could you possibly think that an institution or A PAID PARTY could give a child of yours the attention they need to feel loved? How could you trust TOTAL STRANGERS to such an important task as the care of YOUR CHILD?
I stayed home with my children FULL TIME untill the baby was 3. My oldest was 5 1 /2 years old THE FIRST TIME they were left with a PAID SITTER.
Do I smother my children? Shit, I have FOUR...there ain't NO WAY ANYBODY IS SMOTHERED BY JACKSHIT in MY HOUSE....except the knowledge that no matter what - THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO ME.
It is obvious that you view your children differently than I do mine and that is fine....I can agree to disagree with you. We are each of us entitled to make our own decisions about the welfare of our children.
For you to say that a woman (or MAN for that matter) who cares for her/his children and her/his household is an insignificant thing,a series of meaningless tasks I can only guess that this is how you must have felt growing up. I honestly am not taking a cheap shot. I just do NOT understand.
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