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Potential "Drugged driving" laws

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Congress Seeking To Mandate States Pass Per Se "Drugged Driving" Laws

Model law would sanction anyone driving with "any detectable amount of a controlled substance in the person's body, as measured in the person's blood, urine, saliva, or other bodily substance"

Washington, DC: Members of Congress introduced legislation last week demanding states enact criminal statutes sanctioning anyone who operates a
motor vehicle "while any detectable amount of a controlled substance is present in the person's body, as measured in the person's blood, urine, saliva, or other bodily substance." The bipartisan bill, H.R. 3922, comes five days after the introduction of a measure (H.R. 3907) seeking to withhold highway funding from state legislatures that do not amend their DUID (driving under the influence of drugs) laws to enact mandatory minimum penalties for anyone convicted of driving under the influence of illegal drugs.

"These bills represent an all out federal assault on the marijuana smoking community," NORML Executive Director Keith Stroup said. "Marijuana smokers - notably state-sanctioned medicinal marijuana patients - stand to be unfairly and disproportionately targeted by this type of legislation because inert traces of marijuana metabolites remain detectable in certain bodily fluids for days and sometimes even weeks after marijuana use."

He added, "While driving impaired by marijuana or other illicit and licit drugs is never acceptable, neither is it acceptable to treat sober drivers as if they are impaired simply because they have trace levels of inactive marijuana metabolites in their blood or urine."

While virtually all states already have DUID statutes on the books, most are "effect-based" laws which forbid drivers to operate a motor vehicle if they are either "under the influence" of a controlled substance, or if they have been rendered "incapable of driving safely" because of their use of an illicit drug. To be convicted under such a statute, a prosecutor must prove that the driver's observed impairment and/or incapacity is directly associated with drug ingestion.

By contrast, per se DUID laws presume a driver is impaired simply if he or she operates a motor vehicle while a certain level of an illicit drug or drug metabolite (inert compounds indicative of past drug use) are detectable in their body. However, no scientific consensus exists determining per se impairment levels for controlled substances. As a result, ten states have recently adopted so-called "zero tolerance" per se laws, that make it a criminal offense to operate a motor vehicle while having any amount of a drug or drug metabolite in one's body or bodily fluids - even if the individual is neither under the influence nor impaired to drive.

NORML Executive Director Keith Stroup worries that the current federal crackdown on drugged driving will be used to coerce state legislatures to universally adopt "zero tolerance" per se laws, which he called unfair and bad public policy. "These 'zero tolerance' laws are neither a safe nor sensible way to identify impaired drivers; they are an attempt to misuse the traffic safety laws in order to identify and prosecute marijuana smokers per se.

"We all support the goal of keeping impaired drivers off the road, regardless of whether the driver is impaired from alcohol or other drugs. However, this proposal would unfairly define as ‘impaired’ an individual who had not smoked marijuana for several days, long after any intoxicating effects had worn off."

Stroup added that, at a minimum, laws targeting drug drivers should identify "parent drugs" (i.e., THC), not simply drug metabolites. He also said that DUID per se laws must be based on scientifically accepted criteria for determining impairment, just as blood alcohol content levels are set at .08. "Drunk driving laws have scientifically sound cut-off levels, and punish individuals for driving while impaired, not simply for having consumed alcohol. Politicians should apply similar standards to DUID legislation."

For more information, please contact either Keith Stroup or Paul
Armentano of NORML at (202) 483-5500. To learn more about H.R. 3922,
please visit: http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=5384696

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So what about prescription drugs? They impair you ability to operate a motor vehicle and stay in you system for weeks too sometimes. Where do they draw the line?
 
hardrock said:
So what about prescription drugs? They impair you ability to operate a motor vehicle and stay in you system for weeks too sometimes. Where do they draw the line?

I'm curious about this as well.
 
while we're at it lets have everyone who eats sugar be considered driving under the infuence too since it gives you a rush.

same with caffeine, nicotine, or ephidrine!
 
Damn we have some drama queens here........

You shouldnt be allowed to drive with prescription drugs in you that impair ability. To be realistic regarding the sugar / caffeine, they cant test for everything. Makes sense to start with controlled substances.

You shouldnt be allowed to drive with impaired ability at all.
 
I agree to be realistic they can never test for caffeine sugar, I was just trying to make a ridiculous point.


It does make sense to start with controlled substances, but there is a major flaw in the fact that you can take a controlled substance and still test postive for it 5, or 10, or 20 days later.

Unlike alcohol- I can't see how this could ever win a jury trial
 
Imnotdutch said:
Damn we have some drama queens here........

You shouldnt be allowed to drive with prescription drugs in you that impair ability. To be realistic regarding the sugar / caffeine, they cant test for everything. Makes sense to start with controlled substances.

You shouldnt be allowed to drive with impaired ability at all.

The point is, potentially you could have smoked a joint 2 weeks ago and still get fucked if you got pulled over.
 
The Congress will pass a bill to force states ? That's the scary aspect IMHO, not the fact they wanna keep some potheads away form your roads...
 
Damn this country is getting out of hand!!!! all these conservatives and now you cant eve go bankrupt and protect your home either!!!, debtors will own you and your ass will be poor might as well kill yourself but wait thats what the Bankrupty chapters were made for so you can protect yourself!!. Well thank you Mr Bush and his gang! in congress selling us out to Corporations and to pharma conpanies, poor citizen citizens cant even afford medecines right now!!!
 
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