Post pct errection issues.

[Toogood]

Age 22
Height 5'7
Starting weight 176
Ending weight 194
Years lifting 5

First cycle.

I just finished taking 250mg a week of cyp for 8 weeks. Very short cycle. I figured I would do 2 weeks of PCT dosing clomid at 50 for the first week and then 25 for the second week. (I was reccomend to do this by a lot of local bodybuilders)

This coming Thursday 8/2/2012 will be a full week since my Last week of PCT.
I have not lost any weight or size or even strength so I figure my PCT was pretty solid.

But one thing, I can not hold an erection like I could Pre cycle. So should I start my clomid again and what dosage? And for how many more weeks?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ its the clomid..

thats why i always recommend run clomid at a lower dose than what you ran it at.. 12-25mg EOD.. yea yeah but steve it has a short half life so you should do it ED, blah blah blah.. who cares. its a drug with side effects. the less you run it the better.

also stack a natty test booster with the clomid to counter balance the negative sides from it.. then you will be cooking.

 

[joeblow12345]

When did you start your partial pct?

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[Nelson Montana]

Clomid is a dick killer. Use UNELASHED and Protein Factory POST CYCLE.

 

[Toogood]

Hmm I will start on a natty test boost tomorrow and run a lower dose of clomid then

I started the PCT a full 3 weeks ago this coming Thursday.. But I only did a full two weeks of it.. So that means this coming Thursday will be a week I have been off of everything..

So how long should I jump back on clomid considering my issue? Next cycle I run I will get some unleashed and post cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

I seem to remember you on another thread. the problem with your pct is that you stopped it too early. you still had test in your system. need to stretch out the pct longer next time.

but without you giving me specific dates its hard to advise you from here. when was your last shot of test? when did u start and stop pct?

 

[Toogood]

I seem to remember you on another thread. the problem with your pct is that you stopped it too early. you still had test in your system. need to stretch out the pct longer next time.

but without you giving me specific dates its hard to advise you from here. when was your last shot of test? when did u start and stop pct?

My last injection of test was on 6/28/2012

Started my PCT on 7/12/2012 and ran it through 7/26/2012 (a full two weeks at 50mg the first week then 25 the next) 7/26/2012 was my last day of PCT

I thought the pct was really good considering I didn't lose any weight or strength. Minus the ability to hold an erection. Hopefully this helps out.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ okay as i believe i told you in your last thread you still had test in your system bro. your last injection was 6/28. it takes about 5 weeks to clear give or take a few days. so as of right now you still have test in your system.

so yeah you lost no strength and felt great.. i don't doubt it.. you've still got test in your system. i hope you understand what i'm trying to say, some guys just don't get it. it doesn't magically leave your system just cause you stop taking it.

you should STILL be on pct right now. just take it easy on the clomid

 

[RickRock13]

Steve is right. Just because you start PCT two weeks after the last injection, doesn't mean the test has cleared. The half lives of long esters take 4-5 weeks to clear out. That is when recovery (PCT) is mist important

 

[Toogood]

^^^ okay as i believe i told you in your last thread you still had test in your system bro. your last injection was 6/28. it takes about 5 weeks to clear give or take a few days. so as of right now you still have test in your system.

so yeah you lost no strength and felt great.. i don't doubt it.. you've still got test in your system. i hope you understand what i'm trying to say, some guys just don't get it. it doesn't magically leave your system just cause you stop taking it.

you should STILL be on pct right now. just take it easy on the clomid

Ahh I see I see. I didn't think the long esters would stay with me for THAT long.. But alrightt that does make sense. When you say keep
It easy on the clomid I should do about 12-25mg EOD? And for how many more weeks do you reccomend?

Thanks again for the help man.

 

[ALIN]

Age 22
Height 5'7
Starting weight 176
Ending weight 194
Years lifting 5

First cycle.

I just finished taking 250mg a week of cyp for 8 weeks. Very short cycle. I figured I would do 2 weeks of PCT dosing clomid at 50 for the first week and then 25 for the second week. (I was reccomend to do this by a lot of local bodybuilders)

This coming Thursday 8/2/2012 will be a full week since my Last week of PCT.
I have not lost any weight or size or even strength so I figure my PCT was pretty solid.

But one thing, I can not hold an erection like I could Pre cycle. So should I start my clomid again and what dosage? And for how many more weeks?

I would pick up some ED meds like CIALIS,,VIAGRA,,LEVITRA..they can help greatly.
I wouldnt jump back on anything for awhile. Recover your natural HPTA.

 

[stevesmi]

Ahh I see I see. I didn't think the long esters would stay with me for THAT long.. But alrightt that does make sense. When you say keep
It easy on the clomid I should do about 12-25mg EOD? And for how many more weeks do you reccomend?

Thanks again for the help man.

well lets figure this out.

you ran cyp for 8 weeks. after week 5 its now peaking in the body. your last week you put an additional 250mg in your body. the prior week to that you also put 250mg. prior week 250 and so on.. so half life of 2 weeks. after 2 weeks your last injection you would have 150 left. the prior week you would be down to 100mg. so you still have 250 just from your 2 prior injections. your prior week you have 75. so now we have 325.

after 2 weeks cut that in half.. it starts trickling away.. now you are down to around 200mg. then 125.. and so on.. so you see that after 5 weeks you still have lets say 50mg in your body.

so give it 5-6 weeks to get to low enough levels where your body starts picking up

 

[Toogood]

well lets figure this out.

you ran cyp for 8 weeks. after week 5 its now peaking in the body. your last week you put an additional 250mg in your body. the prior week to that you also put 250mg. prior week 250 and so on.. so half life of 2 weeks. after 2 weeks your last injection you would have 150 left. the prior week you would be down to 100mg. so you still have 250 just from your 2 prior injections. your prior week you have 75. so now we have 325.

after 2 weeks cut that in half.. it starts trickling away.. now you are down to around 200mg. then 125.. and so on.. so you see that after 5 weeks you still have lets say 50mg in your body.

so give it 5-6 weeks to get to low enough levels where your body starts picking up

Thank you for breaking that down for me. There is still a lot for me to learn when it comes to half lifes of all the compounds. So should I listen to the guy above you and not take anything? Or clomid again?

 

[Nelson Montana]

You used Clomid. That's why you didn't recover. You fell for the myth that it restores HPTA.

 

[stevesmi]

Thank you for breaking that down for me. There is still a lot for me to learn when it comes to half lifes of all the compounds. So should I listen to the guy above you and not take anything? Or clomid again?

really your problem is timing of your pct. you haven't even gotten to that point yet. you are still on cycle right now.

i'm not gonna tell you what to do, that is your decision.

if i was in your shoes i would be on pct right now though for the next 4 weeks. at the very least grab a bottle of unleashed and post cycle and run 1 bottle each for the next month.

i don't know if you were on hcgenerate or hcg leading up to now but i hope you were.. if you weren't might want to run hcg immediately then run the pct.

 

[Toogood]

really your problem is timing of your pct. you haven't even gotten to that point yet. you are still on cycle right now.

i'm not gonna tell you what to do, that is your decision.

if i was in your shoes i would be on pct right now though for the next 4 weeks. at the very least grab a bottle of unleashed and post cycle and run 1 bottle each for the next month.

i don't know if you were on hcgenerate or hcg leading up to now but i hope you were.. if you weren't might want to run hcg immediately then run the pct.

I thought it was best to run the PCT two full weeks after your last injection? Is that not enough time?

I will run the clomid for the next month and see how that goes. I am trying not to spend anymore money then what I absolutely need.

Next cycle I will definitely run some hcgenerate and unleashed and post cycle for my pct to see in comparison to just the clomid.

 

[RickRock13]

PCT should always be a minimum of 4 weeks. Longer cycles may need longer pcts. A 6 week or even 8 week cycle could be needed on some cycles to get recovered enough

 

[kk41]

I'm about to run tc,dbol,deca
500 mgs of tc
400 mgs of deca
400 mgs of dbol
For 10 weeks does that sound
like a good bulking cycle



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[Nelson Montana]

I'm about to run tc,dbol,deca
500 mgs of tc
400 mgs of deca
400 mgs of dbol
For 10 weeks does that sound
like a good bulking cycle



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Injectable dbol? How are you dosing that? You do realize it's still 17 AA and active only 48 hours.