Post cycle stats for bigAragorn...just call me Gainskeeper

[argent]

Great gains bro!!!! Excellent work. What is your previuos experience like?

 

[bigAragorn]

Well Well, you think you're so special, huh Kyle.

You went from looking like a nice kid to a scary looking son of a...
That giant tattoo you got doesn't exactly help.


Anyway, good job...you should post this on Anabolic Fitness...remember how they were saying that you weren't gonna gain shit off 375mg of test a week?

Clen is great, I'm sure you added a few lbs of lbm, and that's why you're 254 right now.

My advise is to run clen and liquidex for 3 weeks before your next cycle and train your arms 2-3 times a week during the short cycle

Yeah well i figured the tattoo would fully substantiate my badass self

yeah i will post this over there and see what they say....

i am gonna tweak my trainin routine a little bit and we'll see about the clen.

b.A.

 

[bigAragorn]

Great gains bro!!!! Excellent work. What is your previuos experience like?

well bro, this was my first cycle but prior to that id say i had a good two years of solid training consisting of deads bench and squat to help me transform from a very VERY lean 175 to about 225. As soon as hockey was going no further i didnt give two shits that i was gettin bigger (theres a reason why Lindros at 225 and 6' 4 is the biggest you could probably be on the ice)......

b.A.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Big Andy69 and Big Aragorn, I went to Anabolic Fitness for advice about my First Cycle. Needless to say, I came back to Elite. One "Vet" said I needed a minimum of 750mgs of Test, 400mgs of Deca, and 35-40mgs of Dbol a day for the first 5 weeks to see any kind of substantial development. Well over a gram of Gear my first time out!! I don't think so!!!!

 

[bigAragorn]

Big Andy69 and Big Aragorn, I went to Anabolic Fitness for advice about my First Cycle. Needless to say, I came back to Elite. One "Vet" said I needed a minimum of 750mgs of Test, 400mgs of Deca, and 35-40mgs of Dbol a day for the first 5 weeks to see any kind of substantial development. Well over a gram of Gear my first time out!! I don't think so!!!!

I got flamed for the amount i was using....by the guys in the gym and alot of the vets on that board......its a quality board but they are a little too wrapped up in first cycle has to be the best so you gotta use more gear approach.

b.A.

 

[hitmeoff]

Well some people are hard gainers and other arent. Like myself, Ive killed myself for YEARS trying to get any kind of significant amount of mass and strenght, and didnt have much to show for it. On my first cycle right now with 500mg of Test, 400mg Deca, kicked it off with 30mg Dbol ED, and ending with 75mg ED of FIna and 75mg ED of WInny and have finally started to see some REAL gains. So far im up 25lbs, and for the first time in my life, Im as strong as I look!!! I know it seems like a bit of an extreme cycle for a beginner, but Im also the hardest of hardgainers (the endo-ectomorph - easy to put on fat, real hard to build muscle), and thus far i have not experianced any bad sides, save for some acne on my face.

 

[bigAragorn]

Well some people are hard gainers and other arent. Like myself, Ive killed myself for YEARS trying to get any kind of significant amount of mass and strenght, and didnt have much to show for it. On my first cycle right now with 500mg of Test, 400mg Deca, kicked it off with 30mg Dbol ED, and ending with 75mg ED of FIna and 75mg ED of WInny and have finally started to see some REAL gains. So far im up 25lbs, and for the first time in my life, Im as strong as I look!!! I know it seems like a bit of an extreme cycle for a beginner, but Im also the hardest of hardgainers (the endo-ectomorph - easy to put on fat, real hard to build muscle), and thus far i have not experianced any bad sides, save for some acne on my face.

hey...i understand totally and dont condemn anyone for the choices they make regarding gear use (amounts and what not) ....in fact i plan on working my way up to ome pretty high doses but that will come.....i just feel there is no substitute for hard work and eating habits.

b.A.

 

[Spectre]

Nice thread

hitmeoff: Dewd, I so completely understand your position. I am 2/3 the way through my 1st and man, I have learned so much about myself doing so. I was on sust e3d and dbol 30mg x 4weeks. Made some good gains but the next 4 weeks was flat as hell on sust only (583mg a week). Day after shot was real good but the next 2 sucked ass, I felt overtrained. Diet was on the numbers. I bumped it to eod with starting my tren and within 4 days BAM, back in the sadle. Some of us just need more. I think it's better to start low and creep up on the number that triggers you. Gonna go 13 weeks, long time I know but I am still growing and want to take advantage of it.

BA: I am going to do Clen based on your success with it, I have crashed hard of of PH (I Know) and need to think about that stuff. I thought 2 weeks was the limit on clen? how was 3? what do you think of clen/keto?

 

[hitmeoff]

I knwo what you mean!!!

THe first 3 weeks of my cycle (Test/Deca/Dbol) were awesome, gained sooo much weight and strength. Week 4 and 5 didnt gain any weight, and strength gained seemed to slow, so I decided to throw in Fina, and bam! My strength started to soar again. WHen Winny cam ein, my strength went up ano0ther notch. The past 2 weeks though have been hit and miss in the gym, some body parts still show great strength gains (Tri's, Bi's, Back) and others seem to really slow (Chest, SHoulders), But im not upping the amount of anabolics, I gonna throw in a few more protien shakes everyday and see how that helps!

Im just about winding down with this cycle and have been VERY happy with it, I wish all first timers as much luck and satisfaction!!!

 

[bigAragorn]

Re: Nice thread

hitmeoff: Dewd, I so completely understand your position. I am 2/3 the way through my 1st and man, I have learned so much about myself doing so. I was on sust e3d and dbol 30mg x 4weeks. Made some good gains but the next 4 weeks was flat as hell on sust only (583mg a week). Day after shot was real good but the next 2 sucked ass, I felt overtrained. Diet was on the numbers. I bumped it to eod with starting my tren and within 4 days BAM, back in the sadle. Some of us just need more. I think it's better to start low and creep up on the number that triggers you. Gonna go 13 weeks, long time I know but I am still growing and want to take advantage of it.

BA: I am going to do Clen based on your success with it, I have crashed hard of of PH (I Know) and need to think about that stuff. I thought 2 weeks was the limit on clen? how was 3? what do you think of clen/keto?

The clen was amazing post cycle and i cant say enough good things about it.....i wasnt planning on cycling it 2 on 2 off and what not as i was just using it in conjunction with the clomid...you may want to cycle it 2 on 2 off if you like but i decided not to....

as for clen/keto im sure there are others on this board that are more experienced as i havent done any reading on keto diets or even tried it yet for that matter......i believe kakdiesal has posted some literature about clen/keto....

b.A.