Possible reason for some abcesses

[medical]

define weakness
if you have a cold it makes you more suseptible to other infections like bronchitis (sp?)
right
also ive read that anabolic steroids can act as an imunosupressant
i know what your thinking
cortisone
no thats why i said anabolic
ive also read that anabolics can stimulate the imune system
so ?????
and you are sayn that if you have an open wound that is contaminated with a highly virilant staph bacteria you would have to have something wrong with you to get an abcess??

There is some reason that those people developed an infection (by nature an 'abcess' requires a deep subq introduction of the agent) I bet you 90% of the population would test positive for the agent in a closed society like a jail.
So I stick by my original statement.

 

[acneman]

There is some reason that those people developed an infection (by nature an 'abcess' requires a deep subq introduction of the agent) I bet you 90% of the population would test positive for the agent in a closed society like a jail.
So I stick by my original statement.

so an exterior contamination of a puncture wound(injection site) would not develope an abcess

sorry but im gonna go with Dr. Bruce Hirsch, an infectious disease specialist at North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset, N.Y.

 

[medical]

In a healthy individual exterior contamination of sterile injection site should not cause an abcess. Phrase it that way to the illustrious Dr. Hirsch.

 

[acneman]

In a healthy individual exterior contamination of sterile injection site should not cause an abcess. Phrase it that way to the illustrious Dr. Hirsch.

i would but i dont know the guy i just read the article. did you?

shit man i dont know if it can happen or not but you are only responding to one of my several points

if you have a simple common illness it that enough to compromise your imune system?

can anabolics supress the immune system?

and you are sayn that if you have an open wound that is contaminated with a highly virilant staph bacteria you would have to have something wrong with you to get an abcess??

could the two points above constitute a risk factor in this happening?

if so would it not be a good idea to wipe gym equipment with disinfectant if any of the above applied

well?? im intrested to see your thoughts on this

 

[gjohnson5]

I think with the folks that do sensible dosages that no anabolics don't cause any immune system issues. It's with the folks that do huge abuser doses that they get sick ,etc

i would but i dont know the guy i just read the article. did you?

shit man i dont know if it can happen or not but you are only responding to one of my several points

if you have a simple common illness it that enough to compromise your imune system?

can anabolics supress the immune system?
and you are sayn that if you have an open wound that is contaminated with a highly virilant staph bacteria you would have to have something wrong with you to get an abcess??

could the two points above constitute a risk factor in this happening?

if so would it not be a good idea to wipe gym equipment with disinfectant if any of the above applied

well?? im intrested to see your thoughts on this

 

[medical]

i would but i dont know the guy i just read the article. did you?

shit man i dont know if it can happen or not but you are only responding to one of my several points

if you have a simple common illness it that enough to compromise your imune system?

can anabolics supress the immune system?

and you are sayn that if you have an open wound that is contaminated with a highly virilant staph bacteria you would have to have something wrong with you to get an abcess??

could the two points above constitute a risk factor in this happening?

if so would it not be a good idea to wipe gym equipment with disinfectant if any of the above applied

well?? im intrested to see your thoughts on this

Yes, a simple illness such as a cold will suppress the immune system.
Yes, anabolics can (especially with extended use) suppress the immune system.
I am saying that it takes a deep introduction of a heavy "loading dose" to cause an abcess in a healthy individual. You would be far more likely to develop skin lesions than an abcess. An abcess generally requires a large introduction subcutaneously or IM. I am saying that it would be extremely rare for a healthy individual to develope an abcess from skin exposure, even if they had recent injections.
Of course it would be a good idea to wipe gym equipement if you had breaks in the skin, but I don't consider small-bore injection sites done under sterile or even clean conditions to be either "puncture wounds" or breaks in skin integrity! An injection done with smaller than an 18 ga needle is sealed below the epidermis in minutes. Bacterium/viri cannot penetrate deeply enough to cause an abcess.
Sorry for the tone of my earlier post. I didn't mean to be condescending but this type of thing is really simple and is something I deal with on a daily basis.

 

[acneman]

Sorry for the tone of my earlier post. I didn't mean to be condescending but this type of thing is really simple and is something I deal with on a daily basis.

its ok im not mad

just a little curious
the article i read was like a scratch could lead to abcess

and any way gjohnson and medical

if we have a simple common illness or heavy gear use would you still be unworried about possible staph contamonation from gym equipment

if your answer is no that ok to
in the beginning of this thread my question was "what do you think?"
next time ill be more careful and ask
what do you think and you better agree with me?

 

[a creed]

you got a protocol recomendation

Penicillin, Amoxicillin, Tetracycline and Kflex

 

[medical]

I am not worried in the least about staph contamination in the gym. My work environment is far more virulent than the gym (plus I work out in my home gym!) and I have always believed (and research confirms) that a healthy immune system is strengthened by exposure to multiple pathogens, is weakened by any antibiotic use, and is bolstered by frequent infections early in life.

 

[jerichohill]

I guess I have some question then.

1. Do yall wash before doing injections?
*edit*
1a. Do yall use hydrogen peroxide on the injection site after injection
*edit*
2. After the injection do you use bandaids to cover the break in the skin like any other skin break??

I've been in gyms with breaks in the skin, scrapes, paper cuts, shaving cuts and I've never had an abscess. I've been working out for 20 years. I've been cut in the gym from getting too intense and what not and still no abscess. The paranoia as I'v read on this thread a little over the top.

10 years ago did you hear anyone say , "whereis the lysol" in the gym? I think some of yall are injecting contaminated gear... That's it

Never think it can't happen to you. I have been around people for 15 years that have had MRSA, never thinking I would have a problem. Guess what? I was wrong. This last year I have 3 abcesses, not from gear but by being contaminated by being in close contact with people who were MRSA positive. These bugs are very hard to stop. They are coming to a city near you.

L8R, J