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the nature boy
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he's now just figuring out that he was mislead? the coalition of the mislead is more appropo.
Moderate_THIS
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Pussies. They must be gathing intelligence chatter about an impending attack on an accordian factory.
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Apöllo
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Pretty soon It'll just be US and the British for the next 20 years!
I'd say develop alt. fuel sources and fuck the middle east.
I'd say develop alt. fuel sources and fuck the middle east.
out_at_sea
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I smell a draft coming......
the nature boy
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chaos mage said:
LOL
strongsmartsexy
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chaos mage said:
randyjones
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who needs dumb ass polish troops anyway.Those pople are borderline retarded.I dated a polish girl and her whole family was dumb.Her mom broke her key off in another cars door entry thinking it was hers and not knowing why the key wouldn't work.
strongsmartsexy
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randyjones said:
I'm Polish, would you like to compare IQs?
out_at_sea
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randyjones said:
What a dumbass comment!!! Intelligent analogy too.....
out_at_sea
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Becoming said:
Just blasted after I made my post...Aint a beauty to hold the karma power and punish dimwitts? Be my guest Becoming bor....
strongsmartsexy
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Becoming said:
Does he 'cease to exist karmically if we do that?
out_at_sea
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Becoming said:
great minds think alike as we both posted the same comment, i.e. "you are a dumb ass" at the same time...8:07!!!
Longhorn85
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We can't expect other nations to have the will and perserverance of the US. That is why we are the leader of the free world. We'll accept help from others as long as they can stand the political and military heat, but we'll go it alone if necessary.
randyjones
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It is a known fact that polish people are dumb.You may have a great IQ but you might have trouble useing your tv remote? Why do you think there are so many polish jokes?
strongsmartsexy
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randyjones said:
You're demonstrating all of the intelligence of a one bit brain with a parity error. There are many jokes about "pick your favorite ethnic group, gender or country here".
And you're clearly demonstrating that Polish people aren't nearly as stupid as you've made yourself out to be.
Longhorn85
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How true. After growing up in Texas listening to Aggie jokes, I have had more than one Aggie as a boss.
canadianhitman
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I'm 50% Polish....and randyjones is 100% assclown.
strongsmartsexy
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ttlpkg said:
And that is the reason the US is perceived as a bully and a potential threat to other countries who would choose to retain their freedom from the US forcing themselves on those countries as well.
Longhorn85
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strongsmartsexy said:
So be it. We only are a threat to those who oppose freedom.
the nature boy
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ttlpkg said:
I don't understand. How can you doubt their perserverance? They did contributed did they not? Now they are having second thoughts because they felt mislead, which they were.
this is what bush said 2 days before the start of the war
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised. . . . The [Iraqi] regime . . . has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda. The danger is clear: Using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other. . . . Before the day of horror can come, before it is too late to act, this danger will be removed. . . . The tyrant will soon be gone. [Iraqi people] [t]he day of your liberation is near. . . . [W]e cannot live under the threat of blackmail. The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed. . . . We are now acting because the risks of inaction would be far greater. . . . We choose to meet that threat now where it arises, before it can appear suddenly in our skies and cities. . . . [R]esponding to such enemies only after they have struck first is not self-defense. It is suicide. The security of the world requires disarming Saddam Hussein now. . . . [W]hen the dictator has departed, [the Iraqi people] can set an example to all the Middle East of a vital and peaceful and self-governing nation.
strongsmartsexy
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ttlpkg said:
We impose our version of "freedom" on anyone who isn't in a place to keep us from doing so.
the nature boy
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ttlpkg said:
what happens when we financially and militarily support regimes that are not free? what does that mean?
Longhorn85
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strongsmartsexy said:
Freedom is an absolute.
Longhorn85
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The Nature Boy said:
It's not that I doubt that they had perserverance. My point is each country has a different level of perserverance based on domestic political pressure, budget, will, etc. I think we should be grateful that Poland made a contribution, and I am.
We have to be prepared to go it alone if necessary because we can't depend on others to protect our interests.
strongsmartsexy
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ttlpkg said:
You excel at rhetoric. And you're willing to trample all over the "freedom" of other's just to support your version of "freedom".
strongsmartsexy
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Becoming said:
Right now we have freedoms of individuals who are Americans being trampled over by other Americans who believe they and their version of life and freedom is more important than other's.
Right now the US is behaving as a bully. The US and the rest of the world were mislead with the reasons for going into Iraq. Lied may be an overly harsh word. So, now we go into Iraq to "Free" them. So long as their "freedom" is defined in US terms. Not in the terms of the people we supposedly made free. So, they're free so long as they're doing what we decide they should do, otherwise we'll violate their freedoms until they do as we demand.
"Freedom is an absolute" was the statement I was going after.
strongsmartsexy
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Becoming said:
We are in agreement.
America = the sole superpower.
Spain = the superpower of the 1500s, irrelevant today.
Poland = didn't even exist for much of history. It came and went, it was a peasant nation right up until WW2 and then basically a Soviet satellite until 1989. It is not a sophisticated country, it is and always has been owned by the church, even under communism.
Americans of Polish descent are different; before I get jumped on.
None of this matters, and if Americans judge the success or failure of our actions by what these irrelevant (on the world stage) nations have done, then they are fools.
Spain = the superpower of the 1500s, irrelevant today.
Poland = didn't even exist for much of history. It came and went, it was a peasant nation right up until WW2 and then basically a Soviet satellite until 1989. It is not a sophisticated country, it is and always has been owned by the church, even under communism.
Americans of Polish descent are different; before I get jumped on.
None of this matters, and if Americans judge the success or failure of our actions by what these irrelevant (on the world stage) nations have done, then they are fools.
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strongsmartsexy
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Becoming said:
As long as we're kicking ass in the right places. No sense terrorizing the rest of the world just to throw our weight around because of one or even a few extreme groups. Otherwise, we become what we claim we're fighting.
strongsmartsexy said:
Maybe we should just set a couple examples to start and the rest will take care of itself....
First we can beat the hell out of the french and give it to the germans... that woudl be nice, just say it is payback for being an ingrate...
Then I say we clear out both isreal AND palestine (now you both lose) and turn it into beach front property to sell it off to the hightst bidder...
you can call what comes after that...
strongsmartsexy
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MattTheSkywalker said:
No, I think we're being judged by exactly what we're doing. We were judged before we did it and went against the UN and the opposing nations. So, we tromp in there with our ragtag supporters who are now one by one dropping out.
The issue I still have with this is that we went into Iraq under false pretenses. Other nations who were supporting us are also realizing this.
Testosterone boy
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You are basically saying that all but one of our post and present allies is irrelevant. The fact that we attracted irrelevant allies does not not bode well.MattTheSkywalker said:
Testosterone boy said:
No, I am saying that the nations of the world are not equals, and if these minor players oppose us, it;s OK. We should not be deterred.
Other nations can look at us as an evil empire; they are misguided, and if they forget that, they should consider that we are the first empire in history whose goal was not outright subjugation of the world. However, we are the first that COULD do it.
The US is right in the middle east. As I said before, light is conquering darkness over there, and sometimes bringing light to dark caves requires courage; these other nations lack it.
As an aside:
It has recently been revealed that Saddam funneled $10B out of the UN oil-for-food program. The UN is as irrelevant organization and the idea that we should get more invovled with it is disgusting.
We should pull out of the UN.
Robert Jan
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Poland is like the Mexico of Europe
the nature boy
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MattTheSkywalker said:
I agree. if it weren't for the UN we wouldn't be in Iraq right now anyway.
strongsmartsexy
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MattTheSkywalker said:
The UN has demonstrated that it is a larger money pit than everyone in the world buying a boat. It is no longer relevant.
Robert Jan
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The Nature Boy said:
yeah right
Longhorn85
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strongsmartsexy said:
I think many of us are in agreement here. Furthermore, they pulled out of Iraq after being attacked by a crude truck bomb. Those who insist on UN support seem to ignore this fact:they cut and ran.
Quasi-unilateral action on the part of the US was the right thing to do.
military might vs. the merits of an arguement is fine, its one thing to invade a country and say the reasons are 'because we want to' its another to make a moral false pretense and then chastise others for not following with it
on another note didnt an article on yahoo aaout poland state they were interested in post war oil when they committed troops?
on another note didnt an article on yahoo aaout poland state they were interested in post war oil when they committed troops?
the nature boy
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I'm not saying we wouldn't be in there anyway, but that's the excuse the hawks wanted to use... they draped themselves in the UN resolutions meanwhile they cursed the UN behind the UN's back.Robert Jan said:
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