Please need help on every aspect of training

[vigilante]

Hey,based on some of my ?'s I will ask it will seem obvious Im not ready for usage (var) but Ive decided and Im stubborn so I'll just be as safe as I know how to be.After all its my life and I will have to learn for myself,so please dont dwell on that issue.No fancy equipment,just home gym with dumbs and barbs,use different exercises (keep it exciting) as they come to me.

Here is what I am trying to get together and below you will find my concerns/problems---so please give any advice or tips-----Also I know about the basics (diet,hydration,etc..) so I wont go into that on this.

So heres what Im planning on a daily basis-jobs not a prob.and I have nothing but time. It will be lengthy so I appreciate those who bear with me and take there time to try to help me out--also this is in general not exact

WAKE--x1 megamen,300mg ala, Herbals (400mg ginko,eleuthero,100mg guarana 10 mgs var. Train (Upper one day lower next) until failure,pretty random---while drink 5gs creatine (oj) Pshake after (all pshakes have glutamine),stretch after

8HRS FROM WAKE--Herbals,500mgs milkthistle,10 mgs var----Random light activity (walk outdoors,box,swim,etc...) for around an hour---pshake after,stretch some after

16 HRS FROM WAKE---300mgs ala,10 mgs var----Treadmill jogging 1 hour while drink 5gs creatine (ojuice)--pshake after,stretch after.----x1 megamen vitamin before sleep-I sleep naturally as needed

Thats my plan in general (Im focusing on supps here,but dont mistake me I know their place-behind proper diet,training,lifestyle)

Heres my problems

1- Am I "over supplementing" it just seems weird gulping so many pills (btw all pills are in one pill (300mgs ala for example is one pill)

2- The Upper/Lower split is not going to work!!!! I like my 2 other acitivties daily,along with being able to lift every day (for mental reasons) but how could I properly split the parts while stilll using random exercises for that group (gotta keep major ones together example Back and Legs= Squats and Deads hit both so I cant seperate those 2 groups) DESPERATLY NEED HELP ON THIS

3- In general what do you think or suggest?

Thanks,its always good to have things examined by others for their opinion

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I hate telling people who dont know their training about cycles

Do you want cycle advice or training advice?

FYI, its scary that you layed out your supps but never mentioned your diet.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Ok, I decided if youre gonna do this to yourself you should have an idea.

Go to this site (www.justfuckinggoogleit.com) and look up 5x5 training.

HAve a nice day.

 

[vigilante]

wow,geez thanks. my diet- I am not going into detail like I mentioned above-also I mentioned that I am listing supps because thats my concern-not my diet because I have that settled so it is not a concern.Thus-not listed--
I dont want help with cycle or training but rather IN GENERAL
I cant find the answers Im looking for on search engine---I would appreciate it if we all werent such asses

 

[DiamondCutCows]

wow,geez thanks. my diet- I am not going into detail like I mentioned above-also I mentioned that I am listing supps because thats my concern-not my diet because I have that settled so it is not a concern.Thus-not listed--
I dont want help with cycle or training but rather IN GENERAL
I cant find the answers Im looking for on search engine---I would appreciate it if we all werent such asses

Im the last one to be an ass BRO. You just said you DONT want:
Training
Diet
Cycle advice.

What exactly do you want? Stock tips?

 

[6_pak]

WAKE--x1 megamen,300mg ala, Herbals (400mg ginko,eleuthero,100mg guarana 10 mgs var. Train (Upper one day lower next) until failure,pretty random---while drink 5gs creatine (oj) Pshake after (all pshakes have glutamine),stretch after

8HRS FROM WAKE--Herbals,500mgs milkthistle,10 mgs var----Random light activity (walk outdoors,box,swim,etc...) for around an hour---pshake after,stretch some after

16 HRS FROM WAKE---300mgs ala,10 mgs var----Treadmill jogging 1 hour while drink 5gs creatine (ojuice)--pshake after,stretch after.----x1 megamen vitamin before sleep-I sleep naturally as needed

Thats my plan in general (Im focusing on supps here,but dont mistake me I know their place-behind proper diet,training,lifestyle)

Heres my problems

1- Am I "over supplementing" it just seems weird gulping so many pills (btw all pills are in one pill (300mgs ala for example is one pill)

2- The Upper/Lower split is not going to work!!!! I like my 2 other acitivties daily,along with being able to lift every day (for mental reasons) but how could I properly split the parts while stilll using random exercises for that group (gotta keep major ones together example Back and Legs= Squats and Deads hit both so I cant seperate those 2 groups) DESPERATLY NEED HELP ON THIS

3- In general what do you think or suggest?

Thanks,its always good to have things examined by others for their opinion

Why not just a multi-vitamin? IMO you need 10-15g of creatine. 5 before,5 after, and 5 throughtout the day. Your not really clarifying your workout routine. Why dont you post exactly what bodyparts your doing, a day to day split. ex. mon-chest,tri tues-legs wed-shoulders,bi, etc.....
Why cant you split up legs and back?? that doesnt make sense too me at all. IMO You need 3 days between legs and back(tues-legs, fri-back), due to the strain that squats put on your back, to be fully recovered and have enough energy for deadlifts. If your talking about stiff-leg deads,then they are a hamstring(leg) exercise(not a back exercise). Although they do hit your back, the primary muscle group used is hamstring. Regular deadlifts, although hit hamstrings, primarily hit the entire back(thus classified as a back exercise). IMO they need to be separated. There is just no way i would have enough energy to do both on same day. My guess is your intensity is quite low. As far as your other activities, i would definitely wait at least 4 to 5 hours, eat a several times before doing them. You need to get some recovery time. Im not really sure what this question means, " But how could i properly split the parts while still using random exercises for that group"- clarify please!!!!

 

[DiamondCutCows]

6, he dont wnt training advice. Just "in general"
Whatever he hell that means

Why not just a multi-vitamin? IMO you need 10-15g of creatine. 5 before,5 after, and 5 throughtout the day. Your not really clarifying your workout routine. Why dont you post exactly what bodyparts your doing, a day to day split. ex. mon-chest,tri tues-legs wed-shoulders,bi, etc.....
Why cant you split up legs and back?? that doesnt make sense too me at all. IMO You need 3 days between legs and back(tues-legs, fri-back), due to the strain that squats put on your back, to be fully recovered and have enough energy for deadlifts. If your talking about stiff-leg deads,then they are a hamstring(leg) exercise(not a back exercise). Although they do hit your back, the primary muscle group used is hamstring. Regular deadlifts, although hit hamstrings, primarily hit the entire back(thus classified as a back exercise). IMO they need to be separated. There is just no way i would have enough energy to do both on same day. My guess is your intensity is quite low. As far as your other activities, i would definitely wait at least 4 to 5 hours, eat a several times before doing them. You need to get some recovery time. Im not really sure what this question means, " But how could i properly split the parts while still using random exercises for that group"- clarify please!!!!

 

[Anthony Starks]

Go to this site (www.justfuckinggoogleit.com) and look up 5x5 training.

HAve a nice day.

Damn you, diamondcutcows!!! I need to start reading the links I click on.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Damn you, diamondcutcows!!! I need to start reading the links I click on.

LMAO, that wsant meant for you!

 

[6_pak]

6, he dont wnt training advice. Just "in general"
Whatever he hell that means

OH well ... lets see.... general advice..... Dont have sex with your girlfriends sister!!! not a good idea---beleive me. IM still icing my package!!!!!!

 

[quadkilla31]

6, he dont wnt training advice. Just "in general"
Whatever he hell that means

Hell i don't think he even knows. What excatly is this dude trying to ask?

 

[Singleton]

Why not just a multi-vitamin? IMO you need 10-15g of creatine. 5 before,5 after, and 5 throughtout the day.

I get great results with taking creatine multiple times throughout the day at a total ~= 10g.

2-3g 4x/day works best for me. I take it with lots of fluids and I drink a lot of tea. Just don't leave it sitting in the fluids; it will degrade into creatinine, a useless and toxic substance

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Hell i don't think he even knows. What excatly is this dude trying to ask?

I dont know what he wants, which is sad cuz I want to help him. I dont like steroids being blamed for shit on 20/20...

 

[vigilante]

Look I am not trying to start a fucking pissing contest here. I am just trying to get answers. Let me try to cut the flab and simplify shit here.

Dont worry about diet- OK? Its covered- I eat when hungry (every 2-3 hrs)
I try not to eat canned/packaged goods--Im not an extremist on this, I just make it the best I can and use my senses (sugar-salt-chemicals=bad----protein and carbs and vitamins= good)

Question----Using what I've listed as supps do you think Im overdoing it? Is this a "normal" amount of supps and dosage-I know it varies but what are your thoughts

Question------ On training what I meant by that (confusing on my part)
is how would you suggest dividing the parts up so major exercises (squats,bpress and such in normal posture-sorry I cannot elaborate on this too much, I simply keep it new/random) For example how could I set it up so I can lift every day -part by part- -----Again its hard for me to say what Im thinking on this---Its confusing to put into words

BTW I like my creatine dosage (5gs during lift,5gs during late activity) so my body has time to use most of it and the orange juice is for its high sugar content so it aids digestion

 

[6_pak]

I dont like steroids being blamed for shit on 20/20...

EXACTLY---- Ignorance is what gives gear a bad name!!!

 

[Singleton]

Why not just a multi-vitamin? IMO you need 10-15g of creatine. 5 before,5 after, and 5 throughtout the day.

I get great results with taking creatine multiple times throughout the day at a total ~= 10g.

2-3g 4x/day works best for me. I take it with lots of fluids and I drink a lot of tea. Just don't leave it sitting in the fluids; it will degrade into creatinine, a useless, toxic substance.

Cycle the creatine, too. No more than 6-7 weeks.

 

[vigilante]

I might be ignorant but Im not stupid. Why even bother posting if its just going to be a sarcastic ever so typical response. I am sorry I cant say what I mean to say on training question. If your confused about that,then please try to look at another question or spend your time elsewhere,for those few of you who actually are trying to help I appreciate it

 

[6_pak]

I get great results with taking creatine multiple times throughout the day at a total ~= 10g.

2-3g 4x/day works best for me. I take it with lots of fluids and I drink a lot of tea. Just don't leave it sitting in the fluids; it will degrade into creatinine, a useless, toxic substance.

Cycle the creatine, too. No more than 6-7 weeks.

YO-read it the first time-J/k lol --were you looking for a response??

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Ok, I do think the supps are a bit much. I do nothing more than a MV and a milk Thisle when on.
For Training I'd say look in the training forum and read the stickies, they have a shitload of splits over there.

Good Luck. Let us know if you need more!

 

[6_pak]

I might be ignorant but Im not stupid. Why even bother posting if its just going to be a sarcastic ever so typical response. I am sorry I cant say what I mean to say on training question. If your confused about that,then please try to look at another question or spend your time elsewhere,for those few of you who actually are trying to help I appreciate it

I was talking "in general" with the ignorance comment. You've got to understand that people here dont want to be responsible in giveing you info if your gonna fuck yourself up by not knowing the basics on training and dieting. Not our fault here-- you definitely need more training experience before you implement gear, if you cant fiqure your issues out. Thats the plain and simple truth, bro. We're not trying to be mean, but you have to take responsiblility here. READ MY POST,ANSWER MY QUESTION, WE WILL HELP.

 

[vigilante]

Look,I do not want to get into this. It strays to far off the subject at hand,Ive made my mind on that and that is that. I mentioned this before.
All I am trying to do Is get your opinions on the amount of supps I am taking,
and find or create a training split that will work for me. Not trying to create a recipe for an "Anavar cocktail" or find out how many grams of test I need to inject to look like so & so and be strong and muscly like (INSERT SARCASM HERE

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I just gave MY opinions on that stuff in my last post.

Look,I do not want to get into this. It strays to far off the subject at hand,Ive made my mind on that and that is that. I mentioned this before.
All I am trying to do Is get your opinions on the amount of supps I am taking,
and find or create a training split that will work for me. Not trying to create a recipe for an "Anavar cocktail" or find out how many grams of test I need to inject to look like so & so and be strong and muscly like (INSERT SARCASM HERE

 

[vigilante]

If possible can anyone post a link as to where I can find a split that :

Clearly divides parts (example-not training tris and bis before chest)
Allows daily lifting---example part per day--no "offs"

 

[DiamondCutCows]

If possible can anyone post a link as to where I can find a split that :

Clearly divides parts (example-not training tris and bis before chest)
Allows daily lifting---example part per day--no "offs"

YOu should have off days, but:

Sunday-LEgs
Monday-Chest
Tuesday-Bis
Wednesday-Delts
Thursday-Tris
Friday-Abs/Calves
Saturday-Back

 

[vigilante]

Thanks,on abs I think Ill do EOD since Im not a food nazi

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Thanks,on abs I think Ill do EOD since Im not a food nazi

FYI Eod is not required for abs. Its a muscle. 8-12 sets a week (Some like more often) for 8-12 sets WITH weights is pretty good in my book. Works for me

 

[quadkilla31]

If possible can anyone post a link as to where I can find a split that :

Clearly divides parts (example-not training tris and bis before chest)
Allows daily lifting---example part per day--no "offs"

Go to the training board lots of good info on what your after there.

 

[Raffaz]

Look I am not trying to start a fucking pissing contest here. I am just trying to get answers. Let me try to cut the flab and simplify shit here.

Dont worry about diet- OK? Its covered- I eat when hungry (every 2-3 hrs)
I try not to eat canned/packaged goods--Im not an extremist on this, I just make it the best I can and use my senses (sugar-salt-chemicals=bad----protein and carbs and vitamins= good)

Question----Using what I've listed as supps do you think Im overdoing it? Is this a "normal" amount of supps and dosage-I know it varies but what are your thoughts

Question------ On training what I meant by that (confusing on my part)
is how would you suggest dividing the parts up so major exercises (squats,bpress and such in normal posture-sorry I cannot elaborate on this too much, I simply keep it new/random) For example how could I set it up so I can lift every day -part by part- -----Again its hard for me to say what Im thinking on this---Its confusing to put into words

BTW I like my creatine dosage (5gs during lift,5gs during late activity) so my body has time to use most of it and the orange juice is for its high sugar content so it aids digestion

Your main problem is that you think you know it all already. How can we give you advice if your not posting up what you do now. You say dont worry about diet coz you eat when your hungry, WTF. What are you eating 5 big macs, see my point? You need to give more info for use to work with. If you want "general" advice then give use your "general" routine and diet etc.

 

[Singleton]

If possible can anyone post a link as to where I can find a split that :

Clearly divides parts (example-not training tris and bis before chest)
Allows daily lifting---example part per day--no "offs"

If you're going to train with no off days, you'll have to really care for your CNS. That means less to failure training and low volume.


I do: C/A/S #1 (chest.arms/shoulders)
B/L #1 (back/ legs)
CAS #2
BL#2

3 -4 exercises, 2 sets per exercise body part

Using training phases works great for me. Conditioning phase -> Hypertrophy Phase (the only time anabolics are used), and Strength phase (using creatine).

I cut out training arms in the strength phase, as my tris get massive stimulation from the heavy benching. I also use speed days which helps a lot.

The leg wo is just calves, since I don't need help with my quads. You can design with your own priorities in mind.

I train 6-7 days/week and do yoga + abs every morning. I also do abs with my workout. That's 12-14 wo's per day, if you count the yoga. My core is very strong because of this.

 

[bw1]

YOu should have off days, but:

Sunday-LEgs
Monday-Chest
Tuesday-Bis
Wednesday-Delts
Thursday-Tris
Friday-Abs/Calves
Saturday-Back

I do something similar to this,

Sunday: Quads, Hams
Mon: Chest
Tues: Back, Abs
Wed: Off
Thurs: Shoulders, Calves
Fri: Bi's, Tri's
Sat: Off