please comment on this cycle

[kgarto]

6', 190 lbs, 15% bf, first cycle, 6 years lifting, currently at start of 3rd week igf-lr3, trying to muscle up/build strength, no previous cycles.

500 mg/ test E, taken 250 2x week for 14 weeks
50 mg dbol/ day for first 4 weeks
10mg nolva daily
winny (dose not yet determined) and clen for 4 weeks, starting 12th week
PCT of clomid and nolva (standard protocols)

In general, does this look like a good starting point?

 

[scout69]

I'm not a big fan of D-Bol but it would be a good jump start to your cycle, I would add some armidex to the cycle though to help with bloating, WIth the Test and D-bol, ANd as for Winny I would deffinately run it at the end for say 3-4 weeks at 50mg ED

 

[kgarto]

Yeah, armidex...forgot about that, but I'll look into it, thx.

 

[roidrage77]

Yeah, armidex...forgot about that, but I'll look into it, thx.

personally i love dbol, but i never went over 40 mg/day. good to start out small and add if need be, just for your livers sake. but i think the cycle sounds pretty good. good luck bro

 

[bobdudeman]

IMO, dbol at 50ed is a lot. 30 is a good number. the rest looks good. Get some A-dex

 

[holder]

Bro, 30mg of d-bol ed is plenty. Taking all those tabs(50mg ED)make sure to get Tylers or something similar for your liver

 

[krishna]

Good first cycle. A little higher than what I would do my first time out, but it looks like you at least have knowledge of what you're doing. Good luck bro!

 

[cboogsrun]

Wow bro, that is a lot of gear. I haven't done that much and I'm on 6 or 7th now. Well will be on 6th or 7th soon. My first cycle I did 8 weeks of sust @ 250mg a week. I put on some fat but I had a 27lb gain. Probably 20lbs of good weight. Good luck I'd like to hear how it turns out.

BOOGS

6', 190 lbs, 15% bf, first cycle, 6 years lifting, currently at start of 3rd week igf-lr3, trying to muscle up/build strength, no previous cycles.

500 mg/ test E, taken 250 2x week for 14 weeks
50 mg dbol/ day for first 4 weeks
10mg nolva daily
winny (dose not yet determined) and clen for 4 weeks, starting 12th week
PCT of clomid and nolva (standard protocols)

In general, does this look like a good starting point?

 

[krishna]

Wow bro, that is a lot of gear. I haven't done that much and I'm on 6 or 7th now. Well will be on 6th or 7th soon. My first cycle I did 8 weeks of sust @ 250mg a week. I put on some fat but I had a 27lb gain. Probably 20lbs of good weight. Good luck I'd like to hear how it turns out.

BOOGS

I did 250mg of sust for 10 weeks and gained about 27 lbs too

 

[cboogsrun]

I did 250mg of sust for 10 weeks and gained about 27 lbs too

I think I respond really easily to drugs. Pot makes me puke like a little girl. Clen, fuck that shit gives me the shakes as if I had parkinson's disease off of 20mcg. Thank the lord, I must be lucky. Never needed to do extreme amounts to get good gains. If I could stay away from mountain dew I'd be good to go.

BOOGS

 

[kgarto]

Alright, so scale back the dbol to 30 mg daily and get some armidex.. Will that liquidex be fine- or do I have to go with tabs? It seems like .25 mg daily would be appropriate dose, and that ppl take it through the entire cycle.

Also, at this point, I'm not getting HCG- is that a mistake?

 

[LVTitan]

i would drop the dbol in half bro, 20-25mg is PLENTY first time out

 

[cyrex]

6', 190 lbs, 15% bf, first cycle, 6 years lifting, currently at start of 3rd week igf-lr3, trying to muscle up/build strength, no previous cycles.

500 mg/ test E, taken 250 2x week for 14 weeks
50 mg dbol/ day for first 4 weeks
10mg nolva daily
winny (dose not yet determined) and clen for 4 weeks, starting 12th week
PCT of clomid and nolva (standard protocols)

In general, does this look like a good starting point?

drop the dbol down to 30mg/day and you might want to drop the test down to 12 weeks (depending on how you feel your gains are doing at 10-12 week period) If all is going well go ahead and run it to 14 weeks.
I don't think 10mg nolva daily is necessary unless you get gyno symptoms.. however grab some arimidex or liquidex and run that at .5mg/day

also if you do 14 weeks you might want HCG ..

I'd say drop the winny also on first cycle.