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Plats, are you getting junk PM's from George?

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swole said:
My offer stated I could use the coupon toward any e-book or karma package. I purchased another month of plat plus two 9.95 karma deals. I think because one purchase wasn't covered while the other two should have been is the main reason I was still charged (although other members were still charged despite using the coupon for it's intended item). You eventually helped me out, so it's all said and done. E-life goes on.

BRR, while I appreciate the eventual conclusion we reached, I still think the collective EF administration needs to work more as a more cohesive unit. What the coupon was good for does not make up for taking so long to reply. When someone did reply, it was terribly unprofessional. If you notice, whenever George posts or handles a situation, it's always in a friendly and courteous manner. He always treats his customers as they are correct. He approaches them with an open mind. He never puts them down or makes them feel as if they did something wrong by bringing up an issue. When I mentioned "cohesive unit," I was referring to having the same type of attitude toward the customers. Yourself, GS, and Digger should always handle situations the same. Not doing so makes the customers of EF to think differently of those who run the place. It's like when one parent tells his son he can attend a party while the mother says he can't. You know what I'm saying.

Lestat, I think it's great you decided to team up with the staff and expand options, as well as your wallet. I know how things like this work, and believe me I jump on these opportunities just as fast as the next bright-eyed and bushy-tailed entrepreneur. But, you have to realize you are losing the respect of EF members at an alarming rate. Do me a favor and don't compare Dunk's way of handling this with mine. You don't know what was privately said between myself and BRR; and I made just as much a fuss as he did. There is a huge different when you pay for something online and in person (at a brick & mortar business). Paying for something online (especially using a coupon that didn't work) and not receiving the described goods fills me with rage. I think the fact that the EF admin didn't respond to this issue in a timely manner was worse than everyone "flipping out" on them. They got what they deserved. All it took was a thread by GS, BRR or Digger that the issue was being handled, and all who wanted a refund would receive it within the next day or so. Instead, they locked the threads in fear of bad publicity. Well, I have news for you. If they are so concerned with what the customers think, why would they A) market a coupon that didn't work OR B) take their sweet time dealing with the problem?

Carry on.
Great post.

I am sorry if people lose respect for me. I think people know pretty well where I stand. The response to the gift certificates was overwhelmingly positive. A lot of people PMed me thanking me for it because they were able to go plat or pick up an ebook for a big discount. I am truly sorry that any of you guys got charged when you did not intend to be.

The dunk reference was just because he seems to constantly be pointing the finger at me, when I am already doing all that I can. There are great limits to what I can do, and beyond that I can only offer an apology.
I agree 100% with your statement regarding a cohesive unit. While George and BRR have always been 100% courteous and professional with me, digger seems to often times be on a completely differe page. I am not sure if they are intentionally playing the good cop/bad cop routine, or if there really is a serious lack of communication going on. I'll be working with George on something one minute, and then having digger manupulating post counts and giving me my "final warning" the next. Doesn't do anything except make him look silly really.
 
swole said:
My offer stated I could use the coupon toward any e-book or karma package. I purchased another month of plat plus two 9.95 karma deals. I think because one purchase wasn't covered while the other two should have been is the main reason I was still charged (although other members were still charged despite using the coupon for it's intended item). You eventually helped me out, so it's all said and done. E-life goes on.

BRR, while I appreciate the eventual conclusion we reached, I still think the collective EF administration needs to work more as a more cohesive unit. What the coupon was good for does not make up for taking so long to reply. When someone did reply, it was terribly unprofessional. If you notice, whenever George posts or handles a situation, it's always in a friendly and courteous manner. He always treats his customers as they are correct. He approaches them with an open mind. He never puts them down or makes them feel as if they did something wrong by bringing up an issue. When I mentioned "cohesive unit," I was referring to having the same type of attitude toward the customers. Yourself, GS, and Digger should always handle situations the same. Not doing so makes the customers of EF to think differently of those who run the place. It's like when one parent tells his son he can attend a party while the mother says he can't. You know what I'm saying.

Lestat, I think it's great you decided to team up with the staff and expand options, as well as your wallet. I know how things like this work, and believe me I jump on these opportunities just as fast as the next bright-eyed and bushy-tailed entrepreneur. But, you have to realize you are losing the respect of EF members at an alarming rate. Do me a favor and don't compare Dunk's way of handling this with mine. You don't know what was privately said between myself and BRR; and I made just as much a fuss as he did. There is a huge different when you pay for something online and in person (at a brick & mortar business). Paying for something online (especially using a coupon that didn't work) and not receiving the described goods fills me with rage. I think the fact that the EF admin didn't respond to this issue in a timely manner was worse than everyone "flipping out" on them. They got what they deserved. All it took was a thread by GS, BRR or Digger that the issue was being handled, and all who wanted a refund would receive it within the next day or so. Instead, they locked the threads in fear of bad publicity. Well, I have news for you. If they are so concerned with what the customers think, why would they A) market a coupon that didn't work OR B) take their sweet time dealing with the problem?

Carry on.


Exactly and very well put. That is how business is handled and anyone that "works for someone else" and not self-employed has no idea how you have to treat paying customers with kid gloves. They are your bread and butter.

I know there are some customers you just don't want because they can cause trouble no matter what the situation is but the ones with the complaints are legitimate payng customers and do not cause trouble on these boards.

You meet problems head on and settle them swiftly to the customers satisfaction so the customer walks away feeling good about things.

This one just kept escalating and festering and nobody around to smooth it out.
 
HumorMe and swole I agree with you guys 100%
 
Big Rick Rock said:
mr. dB,

I'm sorry if I offended you. I like to have a little fun in Platinum chat, probably not the best Place to handle customer support.

Everybody else...

For one time only, I will open my PM box to all of your support requests... regarding only the Coupon Code!!!!

So.... if you did not bother to fully read the PM, and got charged for trying to buy something you were explicitly told you couldn't... Please drop me a PM and I'll see how I can tickle your balls/clit to make you happy.
you have to stop rubbing things in peoples faces, specially when you're trying to smooth things out with your paying customers.

"I'll help you out, even though this is all your fault, stupid"

It's cool that you like to come on here and fuck around as a poster, but when you're on here as a representative of the company you need to turn up your professionalism. Seriously bro. As far as the support tickets go, I can personally say that I've tried those myself (for other problems) and received no response. Many people have posted the same results. So if you want people to use them, you (EF) need to respond and take action.


Also, apparently you guys weren't specific enough in that gift certificate PM since so many people had problems.
 
SoreArms said:
you have to stop rubbing things in peoples faces? Specially when you're trying to smooth things out with your paying customers.

"I'll help you out, even though this is all your fault, stupid"

It's cool that you like to come on here and fuck around as a poster, but when you're on here as a representative of the company you need to turn up your professionalism. Seriously bro. As far as the support tickets go, I can personally say that I've tried those myself (for other problems) and received no response. Many people have posted the same results. So if you want people to use them, you (EF) need to respond and take action.


Also, apparently you guys weren't specific enough in that gift certificate PM since so many people had problems.
i agree
 
SoreArms said:
you have to stop rubbing things in peoples faces? Specially when you're trying to smooth things out with your paying customers.

"I'll help you out, even though this is all your fault, stupid"

It's cool that you like to come on here and fuck around as a poster, but when you're on here as a representative of the company you need to turn up your professionalism. Seriously bro. As far as the support tickets go, I can personally say that I've tried those myself (for other problems) and received no response. Many people have posted the same results. So if you want people to use them, you (EF) need to respond and take action.


Also, apparently you guys weren't specific enough in that gift certificate PM since so many people had problems.
good post
 
On a sidenote Lesat, Dunk asked me if I wanted karma insurance for the Atlanta MNF pileon. If I won, I was going to split the winnings with him, if I lost, he was going to (and did) cover half my losses. It was a partnership. I don't see why you used that against him. Me and Dunk are boys, so I would appreciate not being a turd about it by calling him my bitch and hoe, that shit makes no sense.
 
swole said:
On a sidenote Lesat, Dunk asked me if I wanted karma insurance for the Atlanta MNF pileon. If I won, I was going to split the winnings with him, if I lost, he was going to (and did) cover half my losses. It was a partnership. I don't see why you used that against him. Me and Dunk are boys, so I would appreciate not being a turd about it by calling him my bitch and hoe, that shit makes no sense.
i agree it makes no sense, but neither does any of the shit he is saying, so I fight fire with fire,.. I've got no problem stooping down to his level if that's what it takes for him to understand. I fully realize what the situation was with the Atlanta MNF pileon.. and in most cases I'd say he was being a damn good bro for backing you like that... but doing it to be a good bro is inconsistent with other things he has said/done lately.. so I concluded that it was done instead becuse he is a biotch.
 
Lestat said:
i agree it makes no sense, but neither does any of the shit he is saying, so I fight fire with fire,.. I've got no problem stooping down to his level if that's what it takes for him to understand. I fully realize what the situation was with the Atlanta MNF pileon.. and in most cases I'd say he was being a damn good bro for backing you like that... but doing it to be a good bro is inconsistent with other things he has said/done lately.. so I concluded that it was done instead becuse he is a biotch.


lol your a real piece of shit

Post #12

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438310&highlight=certificate

I clearly stated i was going to buy karma.

A heads up would have been cool. Not a go ahead, I got the tab kinda of attitude. If your going to put YOUR name on something make sure you know what your getting into. The fine print. Dont try and fuck over your e-friends.

And like Swole said. We all handled the situation like gentleman but a gentleman can only take so much before enough is enough. Its easier to pass the blame on you b/c your soft and weak. Why do you think George went into business with you in the first place?
 
Dunk said:
lol your a real piece of shit

Post #12

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438310&highlight=certificate

I clearly stated i was going to buy karma.

A heads up would have been cool. Not a go ahead, I got the tab kinda of attitude. If your going to put YOUR name on something make sure you know what your getting into. The fine print. Dont try and fuck over your e-friends.

And like Swole said. We all handled the situation like gentleman but a gentleman can only take so much before enough is enough. Its easier to pass the blame on you b/c your soft and weak. Why do you think George went into business with you in the first place?
that's the type of attitude I am talking about bro, you want respect, you're gonna have to give respect.
 
Dunk said:
lol your a real piece of shit

Post #12

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438310&highlight=certificate

I clearly stated i was going to buy karma.

A heads up would have been cool. Not a go ahead, I got the tab kinda of attitude. If your going to put YOUR name on something make sure you know what your getting into. The fine print. Dont try and fuck over your e-friends.

And like Swole said. We all handled the situation like gentleman but a gentleman can only take so much before enough is enough. Its easier to pass the blame on you b/c your soft and weak. Why do you think George went into business with you in the first place?

lmfao...this makes too much sense

But seriously Lestat he has a point, you have TONS of pride in all the little things you do, such as the bomb squad and iron cocks or whatever, but to promote something to which you don't know the details confuses the shit out of me, all the while making you look like an ash hoooooeeee (little blonde kid from meet the fockers).
 
If you any of you still have any issues with the coupon code, please drop me a PM and I will take care of it.

I think everybody got a chance to vent their frustation.



-BRR
 
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