Planning second cycle, please critique

[jokerswild]

Background

25 yrs old, 5 yrs weightlifting, started at 135lbs, got to 165 naturally currently at 185 in the middle of first cycle:

1-3 25mg ED Dbol (was planning in 4 weeks but the back pumps crippled me)
1-10 500mg sust
9-12 50mg ED winny
PCT HCG clomid and nolva

Planned next cycle

1-4 Drol 50mg ED
1-10 Sust 250mg
1-10 500mg Deca
9-12 50mg ED winny

What do you think of the next cycle?

 

[Bruce]

drol is some serious stuff, i don't know if you wanna use that your second, i also am not a fan of sust, i think test e is better. i would run 500 mg of test e and 500mg of deca and do the winny at the end. if you want an oral to start use tbol.

 

[jokerswild]

drol is some serious stuff, i don't know if you wanna use that your second, i also am not a fan of sust, i think test e is better. i would run 500 mg of test e and 500mg of deca and do the winny at the end. if you want an oral to start use tbol.

or better yet I my try that Wotan 600

 

[nzbro]

As div said tbol First 4 weeks
and last 4 weeks

 

[Bruce]

yeah i would get that test 600 and dilute it with your deca, what type of deca are you going to use?

 

[WannaBeBig72]

As div said tbol First 4 weeks
and last 4 weeks

Why Tbol instead of Winny. Tbol seems to be all over the boards now. I'm in my second cycle and was planning on ending it with 4 weeks of Winny. I started with 4 weeks of DBol and am now running Test/EQ. What would be the advantages of running TBol. Is it liver toxic?

 

[jokerswild]

yeah i would get that test 600 and dilute it with your deca, what type of deca are you going to use?

BD 250

 

[Bruce]

ok yeah that will be good for diluting it. just load a cc or deca monday and thursday and along with that a little less than half a cc of test. then your runnin 500 test with deca. can't go wrong with that and with win at the end. drol you will grow like crazy then lose almost all of it. deca and test with proper pct and some win your gonna keep almost all your gains.

 

[DIVISION]

My changes:

1-12 Sust 500mg ew
1-12 300mg Deca ew
9-12 50mg Winstrol ed



You want to have a good ratio of Test to Deca, that is if you want sexual functioning, otherwise your libido might flip-flip and your dick my drip-drop....

You can go up to 400MG Deca, but any more than that might lead to some dick droppage.






DIV

 

[jokerswild]

Damn everbodies knockin the drol, sure wanted to try it....

 

[Tux]

You can try the drol bro, don't let people discourage you. Sure it can be harsh, but if you start low you can avoid sides usually. Problem is, drol has progesterone activity, deca also does, so you may have too much of that floating around. Have dostinex handy in case of that. Otherwise, I would also at least run the test equal to the deca. Especially since you ran 500/week your first cycle, don't drop it to 250, your dick might not work so well. Otherwise, I'll approve the cycle. Test/deca in equal doses to week 10, winny running through week 12 while the long esters clear. You can start it off with drol if you want, people here just are offering you "milder" options, as drol is harsh on many people. Tbol I've not yet tried but will try soon as I hear many good things about it. Use dbol/tbol/drol, whatever you want to jumpstart it really, you may as well try drol if you really want to, you never know, you might like it.

 

[Bruce]

tux is right, but if i were u and u want an oral to kickstart get some tbols that is the hottest oral right now, tren like results with no sides. do first four weeks with tbol and the deca and test. my next is tbol first four eq 600 and test e 250 a week each for 12 weeks maybe more depending on plateau. so do the same with deca instead of eq with your doses, i could take a gram of deca with no test and fuck 12 times in row so i can't relate to these deca dick things.

 

[krishna]

Damn boy, you like to start big don't you? I bet I gained on my first cycle just as much as you're gonna gain on yours, and all I did was 250 mg of sust per week for 10 weeks. Why build a tolerance quicker by starting with stacks and higher doses? Now you want to hit the drol on your second. Good luck with that.

 

[jokerswild]

tux is right, but if i were u and u want an oral to kickstart get some tbols that is the hottest oral right now, tren like results with no sides. do first four weeks with tbol and the deca and test. my next is tbol first four eq 600 and test e 250 a week each for 12 weeks maybe more depending on plateau. so do the same with deca instead of eq with your doses, i could take a gram of deca with no test and fuck 12 times in row so i can't relate to these deca dick things.

From what I have read on Tbol it is a derivative of Dbol except it is safer but weaker.

 

[DIVISION]

i could take a gram of deca with no test and fuck 12 times in row so i can't relate to these deca dick things.

Lucky you....Lil' Bruce.....

You would never need 1G of Deca anyway....



DIV

 

[jokerswild]

Damn boy, you like to start big don't you? I bet I gained on my first cycle just as much as you're gonna gain on yours, and all I did was 250 mg of sust per week for 10 weeks. Why build a tolerance quicker by starting with stacks and higher doses? Now you want to hit the drol on your second. Good luck with that.

If your gonna bash don't beat around the bush, and if you've only done one AS don't give advice on those you haven't taken. I noticed you voted on the DECA vs Test poll, but you've never even tried Deca, heres a tasty bomb burger krishypoo

 

[krishna]

If your gonna bash don't beat around the bush, and if you've only done one AS don't give advice on those you haven't taken. I noticed you voted on the DECA vs Test poll, but you've never even tried Deca, heres a tasty bomb burger krishypoo

Woah calm down bud. Didn't mean to get your panties in a ruffle! The reason I took test instead of deca was because of research. Besides, I stated the reason why I voted test, and I wouldn't of had to try either of them to pick test for that reason. Do what you want, I don't care. Just trying to get you to think before you blast your tolerance levels from the getgo. I'll remember not to give a shit next time.

 

[DIVISION]

If your gonna bash don't beat around the bush, and if you've only done one AS don't give advice on those you haven't taken. I noticed you voted on the DECA vs Test poll, but you've never even tried Deca, heres a tasty bomb burger krishypoo

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

You bombed the KRISHNA!!!!!!!!

He's all about peace & love and you gave him a shitburger!!!!!!!

This forum is getting fun again!!!!!!!





DIV

 

[Bruce]

a shit burger, yeah i would never use a gram of deca but i love it at 600 a week by itself, worked unreal for me.

 

[DIVISION]

a shit burger, yeah i would never use a gram of deca but i love it at 600 a week by itself, worked unreal for me.

I don't understand why some guys get decadick and other's don't.

Esp at 600MG ew.......that's insane......I think If I used that much my dick would go in to hibernation.

Genetics.......



DIV

 

[Tux]

Lol yeah Div, I'm lucky like bruce in that respect. I ran deca at 300/week and tren at 75mg/eod together, no test... and I wanted it like 3-4x a day! Nothing has ever lowered my high libido. Then again, I think I have mostly crappy genetics otherwise, and I don't have good AR receptor affinity for damn sure, so this makes up for it

 

[WannaBeBig72]

tux is right, but if i were u and u want an oral to kickstart get some tbols that is the hottest oral right now, tren like results with no sides. do first four weeks with tbol and the deca and test. my next is tbol first four eq 600 and test e 250 a week each for 12 weeks maybe more depending on plateau. so do the same with deca instead of eq with your doses, i could take a gram of deca with no test and fuck 12 times in row so i can't relate to these deca dick things.

TBol has no sides? From what I read it's liver it's an I 7-alpha alkylated steroid, which to me would bean it's harsh on the liver (which Tren isn't). From what I read, compared to DBol the only side it doesn't have is the water retention. Please correct me if I'm wrong regarding this...

 

[DIVISION]

Lol yeah Div, I'm lucky like bruce in that respect. I ran deca at 300/week and tren at 75mg/eod together, no test... and I wanted it like 3-4x a day! Nothing has ever lowered my high libido. Then again, I think I have mostly crappy genetics otherwise, and I don't have good AR receptor affinity for damn sure, so this makes up for it

Indestructible libido vs. Good AR receptor affinity.......

hmmmm

I'd go with the AR receptor affinity.........given a choice of course.

I guess Penguins need strong libido to procreate when it's 50 below outside......




DIV