Plain and simple E.O. sachets

[changes]

ahhh suave i see your point some.. you making more sense now.. Are you all saying I need a better foundation to start with? Even if I radically changed my eating habits from today on.... I still couldnt gain at this current size? If so how much would you recommend I gain naturally 1st? (keep in mind this is almost impossible for me).

eastcoast, I transferred the sachets, each sachet into 3 rigs. 1ml per rig. I had a tad leftover after all was said and done.

and sorry if i sound like a jerk, i really am not, i am just a 25 year old sick of being made fun of for my size. if i sound like a total n00b to this forum it is because I AM. Please bear with me!

 

[changes]

i forgot to mention, this post isnt about me, I meant it to help some people like myself out who are wondering "Hey, are these E.O. sachets real or bunk?" That was the main reason for this post, so anyone who can confirm that part I would really appreciate it...

and eastcoast, personally I put each sachet(3.3.ml) into 3 capped syringes, 1ml each. (i had a little left over when all was said and done). If they are indeed real, the whole dosing process is not even an issue, if you saw how well conceled these came you would understand why it may be worth the extra time you will have to invest into setting up. I am sure in the long run the extra 15 minutes it took me to set up, would be far better than the hundred dollars i will occassionally lose to a nosey customs agent, and the wasted 3 weeks I spent waiting only to recieve a love letter. Like I said this is my first cycle, any customs problems I mention are overseas pharmacy related(benzo+opiates not roids), so very similar in nature to the shipping process cycles are subjected to. I lose on average 1/5 maybe 1/10 on a good year. I can only assume you guys have the same problem ordering your glass amps ...so yea man I can not stress enough, sachets are darn discreet. But hey, all the mention of them ( i know im guilty as well) and the fact that these silly pharm companies show pictures of the actual sachets, unfortunately I am sure the secret sachets are already no longer a secret at all.
Regardless, still pretty damn hard for a customs agent to find an envelope so well conceled, even if he knew what he was looking for.

 

[rg78]

The basic point of these posts. Eat more calories, hit the weights, properly supplement and gain some weight before usuing gear. Otherwise you are merely wasting your time and money.

This is the point that the professor is trying to get accross and its true. For you to be 6ft and 130 you cant be eating well or enough.

i was in a similar position to you only a few years ago at 6,3 and 180 due to a sport that i was doing i needed to be fairly light. When i stopped i decided to bulk up for 2 years before i even thought about touching steroids. Over that 2 years i went from 180 to 225 just by changing the way i trained and the food i ate. I would strongly recommend you get a good base to build on before taking the jump straight to gear.

 

[02gixxersix]

LOL! I cant wait to get up to the 150lb max deadlift! LMAO! Someday until then its just a dream! LOL! lol! LOL!

I can deadlift 150 with my dick.......this guy has to be joking

 

[theprofessor]

I can deadlift 150 with my dick.......this guy has to be joking

ok guys... i was just trying to make a point... not make fun of him...
..the point was... if he dosnt do a pct right he may very well end up worse off...
...but realy... the guy here needs help beyond what the average personal trainer and nutritionalist have to offer... imo most commercial pt's suck donkey balls...
...some of the best training info ever learned is on the training forum... i reccomend a 5x5 program... focus on heavy freeweight compound lifts ...bench.. squat.. deads.. cleans... military presses...
...as far as diet... try starting to eat a little more with each meal... and drink a shitload of water... get your stomach to get used to more and more food... streach it out... and keep track of calories... add 500 calories every week until you see gains... problem solved...

 

[mr.nitrofish]

id get a big old bottle of that weight gainer stuff. but either way with your body type, your going to have to force feed yourself to get big.

 

[theprofessor]

id get a big old bottle of that weight gainer stuff. but either way with your body type, your going to have to force feed yourself to get big.

shakes are only decent at best...
...rely on real food... beef should be our best friends when bulking...

 

[changes]

damn you guys rock..... now what to do with all these left over sachets??? can i supplement say 100mg a week non-stop just to aid in test lvls? i assume im naturally low seeing as i couldnt ejaculate until my late teens, i have no physical motivation, I am often tired and require more amounts of sleep than usual, and had a low libido.. (until that 1st injection, damn im horny) I have talked to doctors and a guy who runs a treatment center using low lvls of test 100mg a weekish over extremely long periods.... would this be an idea... or can they stay good in a syringe for the year its gonna take me to bulk to proper size bfore starting?

 

[iHulk]

changes, you got the right attitude. Stick around and learn. There will be some tuff love but eventually you'll be able to read through all the bullshit. There are lots vets on here with lots of experience, even some Doctors, Chemists, and long time BB'ers... you'll get some great advice and not so great advice.

Look at the main forum. Read all the stickies. Then go into the Diet and PCt forum and read all the stickies.
Give us your stats:

weight, height, bf?
what your diet currently looks like,
supplements you are taking and when,
training is a big part it? what does your training look like?

-ihulk

 

[paulwigan]

You gotta eat at least 5 times per day, and most importantly every day. At this time there is no bad calorie 1 day lost is 15% of your weekly food intake that may be enough to halt all gains for that week. and train really heavy only twice per week with no cardio. If you cant use a barbell for the exercise (except chins and dips) then it aint worth doing for you. You have to improve on these exercise every work out. We are talking squats, bench press, military press, deadlifts, bent over rows.
As you progress with these lifts you will get hungrier as your body will demand the food. If you start with steriods you will need them to maintained what you have gained.
Its your natural base you need to improve. you also need a more psoitive approach. You provide a lot of reasons of why you are at a disadvantage to others, low test levels, naturally skinny etc. Just get training and get stonger eack week. Its that easy. It is not as scientific as you think at the start. You eat more and get stronger you get bigger, the more you eat and the stronger you get it carries to a certain point. You have your health, all you need is now an appetite for hard work and perseverance. This sport is a marathon not a sprint. And we all started it for one reason. To get bigger. genetics are just your starting point.