Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I keep getting my posts erased even though I have never mentioned a source. This time I will give hardly any detail and hope you get my drift. I have sachets made by a company with the initials E.O. (not ordered from them, they themselves are not a source). The sachet is 3.3ml . Please help!! am I injecting perfume?I have done a lot of research on this an dI found at least 5-6 reputable sites selling these exact same sachets. Thanks in advance for any help!
Plain and simple E.O. sachets
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theprofessor
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guys... this is his other post...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6686228#post6686228
...now everyone can tell you youre wasting the 'roids... even if they are legit...
this is what will happen... and im being nice...
you gain about 20lbs... most of which is water... some fat... and maybe a little muscle... you feel great because you look swole... but you are realy bloated... your cycle ends... you piss away 18 lbs of water the next week... if you do pct... you may keep the 2lbs of muscle and fat... but most likely wont... because you dont eat right... you have now lost all your gains... and if you dont do pct... you will probably lose more than you gained... your strength is also down... and you lose motivation to workout... because instead of deadlifting 150 lb max... youre down to 135 max... and you give up... and become a skinny-fat...
do yourself a favor... work on your diet for at least a couple years...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6686228#post6686228
...now everyone can tell you youre wasting the 'roids... even if they are legit...
this is what will happen... and im being nice...
you gain about 20lbs... most of which is water... some fat... and maybe a little muscle... you feel great because you look swole... but you are realy bloated... your cycle ends... you piss away 18 lbs of water the next week... if you do pct... you may keep the 2lbs of muscle and fat... but most likely wont... because you dont eat right... you have now lost all your gains... and if you dont do pct... you will probably lose more than you gained... your strength is also down... and you lose motivation to workout... because instead of deadlifting 150 lb max... youre down to 135 max... and you give up... and become a skinny-fat...
do yourself a favor... work on your diet for at least a couple years...
theprofessor
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youve got to be kidding me.... did you read his other post?... steroids will do nothing good for this guy...Twoguns said:
mr.nitrofish
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I didn't see the part about deadlifting 150lbs, but 130lbs at 6' is damn near anorexia. you got to eat more, way more.
theprofessor
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...i was being sarcastic about the deadlift... but in reality @ 130 lb @ 6ft... he needs to eat more...mr.nitrofish said:
im just trying to help... if he does a cycle... most likely he will end up worse off than now...
to the original poster... go visit the diet forum... start eating at least 1lb of red meat a day... get in 5000 calories and you will grow...
also visit the weight training forum... there is lots to be learned...
theprofessor
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i know a source that sells the e.o... they are too expensive... but they are legit... i would trust it...Twoguns said:
Wow,
It seems after some time on these boards, it gives people big heads and you begin to know EVERYTHING, forgetting one thing..... AT SOME POINT YOU KNEW WHAT I KNOW!
I knew I would get flamed, but geez guys i do not need to be laughed at... ridiculed at best.. 1/2 of you only posted to laugh at me... I know your group is knowledgeable and I expected some advice along with the flames. I dont need to be made fun of. Yes, I am 6 foot 131 lbs now. What is to say I can not eat 4,000 calories a day? You are all laughing saying I wasted my money but have you ever considered that I am willing to listen to advice, willing to eat more and willing to properly train? I already have someone lined up to help with training and I have seen a nutritionist about my diet and been schooled as to proper portions. For you to say just because im skinny I cant use steroids or i am wasting my time, is quite silly sounding and untrue as well. We all have to start somewhere but unfortunately my starting point is 130 pounds. YES OUCH THAT FUCKING SUCKS. But please, stop laughing long enough to throw some advice my way. I posted to know if EO is trustable not to be ridiculed. Yes, I did refrence the site i purchased them from and the site is legit.... but I was'nt sure if their sachets were. I know of some very legit parms, that are only legit if your ordering certain products(mainly benzos), but when you swing for others (stronger painkillers) you get beat every time..... So making sure this isnt the case. Thanks for anyone who didnt just flame me, especially ortiz. Because it is true, you werent all born with the knowledge you have today, people like yourselves helped you. Please, help me, I will listen.
It seems after some time on these boards, it gives people big heads and you begin to know EVERYTHING, forgetting one thing..... AT SOME POINT YOU KNEW WHAT I KNOW!
I knew I would get flamed, but geez guys i do not need to be laughed at... ridiculed at best.. 1/2 of you only posted to laugh at me... I know your group is knowledgeable and I expected some advice along with the flames. I dont need to be made fun of. Yes, I am 6 foot 131 lbs now. What is to say I can not eat 4,000 calories a day? You are all laughing saying I wasted my money but have you ever considered that I am willing to listen to advice, willing to eat more and willing to properly train? I already have someone lined up to help with training and I have seen a nutritionist about my diet and been schooled as to proper portions. For you to say just because im skinny I cant use steroids or i am wasting my time, is quite silly sounding and untrue as well. We all have to start somewhere but unfortunately my starting point is 130 pounds. YES OUCH THAT FUCKING SUCKS. But please, stop laughing long enough to throw some advice my way. I posted to know if EO is trustable not to be ridiculed. Yes, I did refrence the site i purchased them from and the site is legit.... but I was'nt sure if their sachets were. I know of some very legit parms, that are only legit if your ordering certain products(mainly benzos), but when you swing for others (stronger painkillers) you get beat every time..... So making sure this isnt the case. Thanks for anyone who didnt just flame me, especially ortiz. Because it is true, you werent all born with the knowledge you have today, people like yourselves helped you. Please, help me, I will listen.
thesuaveone
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The basic point of these posts. Eat more calories, hit the weights, properly supplement and gain some weight before usuing gear. Otherwise you are merely wasting your time and money.
eastcoastplayer
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Twoguns said:
do you transfer the sachet contents to a sterile vial or keep it in a large syringe?
P.S.
Yes, I posted prior to this account but forgot what name/email I used to post on. Even on my other account though, I was a n00b, just an observer mostly.
Now, Professor, no disrespect. I do not know how to quote you so I will do this manually....
"...now everyone can tell you youre wasting the 'roids... even if they are legit...
this is what will happen... and im being nice...
you gain about 20lbs... most of which is water[THIS ISNT THE CASE FOR EVERYONE????]... some fat... and maybe a little muscle... you feel great because you look swole... but you are realy bloated... your cycle ends... you piss away 18 lbs of water the next week[Lose 18/20 or 90% of my gains?.. unlikely]... if you do pct... you may keep the 2lbs of muscle and fat... but most likely wont... because you dont eat right[Who is to say my diet can not change? It already has]... you have now lost all your gains... and if you dont do pct [ I have PCT already lined up]... you will probably lose more than you gained... your strength is also down... and you lose motivation to workout... because instead of deadlifting 150 lb max... youre down to 135 max... and you give up[HEY MAYBE YOU GIVE UP...low self esteem?]... and become a skinny-fat[god, id take anything with the name fat attached to it.. skinny fat works fine
]...
do yourself a favor... work on your diet for at least a couple years..."[I have been]
I think he may be forgetting testosterone will stimulate appetitte. Making my whole inability to eat pre-cycle a moot point... am I correct?
Sorry to call you out man, but your posts have been particularly rude/hurtful.
Yes, I posted prior to this account but forgot what name/email I used to post on. Even on my other account though, I was a n00b, just an observer mostly.
Now, Professor, no disrespect. I do not know how to quote you so I will do this manually....
"...now everyone can tell you youre wasting the 'roids... even if they are legit...
this is what will happen... and im being nice...
you gain about 20lbs... most of which is water[THIS ISNT THE CASE FOR EVERYONE????]... some fat... and maybe a little muscle... you feel great because you look swole... but you are realy bloated... your cycle ends... you piss away 18 lbs of water the next week[Lose 18/20 or 90% of my gains?.. unlikely]... if you do pct... you may keep the 2lbs of muscle and fat... but most likely wont... because you dont eat right[Who is to say my diet can not change? It already has]... you have now lost all your gains... and if you dont do pct [ I have PCT already lined up]... you will probably lose more than you gained... your strength is also down... and you lose motivation to workout... because instead of deadlifting 150 lb max... youre down to 135 max... and you give up[HEY MAYBE YOU GIVE UP...low self esteem?]... and become a skinny-fat[god, id take anything with the name fat attached to it.. skinny fat works fine
]...do yourself a favor... work on your diet for at least a couple years..."[I have been]
I think he may be forgetting testosterone will stimulate appetitte. Making my whole inability to eat pre-cycle a moot point... am I correct?
Sorry to call you out man, but your posts have been particularly rude/hurtful.
ahhh suave i see your point some.. you making more sense now.. Are you all saying I need a better foundation to start with? Even if I radically changed my eating habits from today on.... I still couldnt gain at this current size? If so how much would you recommend I gain naturally 1st? (keep in mind this is almost impossible for me).
eastcoast, I transferred the sachets, each sachet into 3 rigs. 1ml per rig. I had a tad leftover after all was said and done.
and sorry if i sound like a jerk, i really am not, i am just a 25 year old sick of being made fun of for my size. if i sound like a total n00b to this forum it is because I AM. Please bear with me!
eastcoast, I transferred the sachets, each sachet into 3 rigs. 1ml per rig. I had a tad leftover after all was said and done.
and sorry if i sound like a jerk, i really am not, i am just a 25 year old sick of being made fun of for my size. if i sound like a total n00b to this forum it is because I AM. Please bear with me!
i forgot to mention, this post isnt about me, I meant it to help some people like myself out who are wondering "Hey, are these E.O. sachets real or bunk?" That was the main reason for this post, so anyone who can confirm that part I would really appreciate it...
and eastcoast, personally I put each sachet(3.3.ml) into 3 capped syringes, 1ml each. (i had a little left over when all was said and done). If they are indeed real, the whole dosing process is not even an issue, if you saw how well conceled these came you would understand why it may be worth the extra time you will have to invest into setting up. I am sure in the long run the extra 15 minutes it took me to set up, would be far better than the hundred dollars i will occassionally lose to a nosey customs agent, and the wasted 3 weeks I spent waiting only to recieve a love letter. Like I said this is my first cycle, any customs problems I mention are overseas pharmacy related(benzo+opiates not roids), so very similar in nature to the shipping process cycles are subjected to. I lose on average 1/5 maybe 1/10 on a good year. I can only assume you guys have the same problem ordering your glass amps ...so yea man I can not stress enough, sachets are darn discreet. But hey, all the mention of them ( i know im guilty as well) and the fact that these silly pharm companies show pictures of the actual sachets, unfortunately I am sure the secret sachets are already no longer a secret at all.
Regardless, still pretty damn hard for a customs agent to find an envelope so well conceled, even if he knew what he was looking for.
and eastcoast, personally I put each sachet(3.3.ml) into 3 capped syringes, 1ml each. (i had a little left over when all was said and done). If they are indeed real, the whole dosing process is not even an issue, if you saw how well conceled these came you would understand why it may be worth the extra time you will have to invest into setting up. I am sure in the long run the extra 15 minutes it took me to set up, would be far better than the hundred dollars i will occassionally lose to a nosey customs agent, and the wasted 3 weeks I spent waiting only to recieve a love letter. Like I said this is my first cycle, any customs problems I mention are overseas pharmacy related(benzo+opiates not roids), so very similar in nature to the shipping process cycles are subjected to. I lose on average 1/5 maybe 1/10 on a good year. I can only assume you guys have the same problem ordering your glass amps ...so yea man I can not stress enough, sachets are darn discreet. But hey, all the mention of them ( i know im guilty as well) and the fact that these silly pharm companies show pictures of the actual sachets, unfortunately I am sure the secret sachets are already no longer a secret at all.
Regardless, still pretty damn hard for a customs agent to find an envelope so well conceled, even if he knew what he was looking for.
thesuaveone said:
This is the point that the professor is trying to get accross and its true. For you to be 6ft and 130 you cant be eating well or enough.
i was in a similar position to you only a few years ago at 6,3 and 180 due to a sport that i was doing i needed to be fairly light. When i stopped i decided to bulk up for 2 years before i even thought about touching steroids. Over that 2 years i went from 180 to 225 just by changing the way i trained and the food i ate. I would strongly recommend you get a good base to build on before taking the jump straight to gear.
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02gixxersix
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I can deadlift 150 with my dick.......this guy has to be jokingCO B-man said:
theprofessor
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ok guys... i was just trying to make a point... not make fun of him...02gixxersix said:I can deadlift 150 with my dick.......this guy has to be joking
..the point was... if he dosnt do a pct right he may very well end up worse off...
...but realy... the guy here needs help beyond what the average personal trainer and nutritionalist have to offer... imo most commercial pt's suck donkey balls...
...some of the best training info ever learned is on the training forum... i reccomend a 5x5 program... focus on heavy freeweight compound lifts ...bench.. squat.. deads.. cleans... military presses...
...as far as diet... try starting to eat a little more with each meal... and drink a shitload of water... get your stomach to get used to more and more food... streach it out... and keep track of calories... add 500 calories every week until you see gains... problem solved...
mr.nitrofish
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id get a big old bottle of that weight gainer stuff. but either way with your body type, your going to have to force feed yourself to get big.
theprofessor
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shakes are only decent at best...mr.nitrofish said:
...rely on real food... beef should be our best friends when bulking...
damn you guys rock..... now what to do with all these left over sachets??? can i supplement say 100mg a week non-stop just to aid in test lvls? i assume im naturally low seeing as i couldnt ejaculate until my late teens, i have no physical motivation, I am often tired and require more amounts of sleep than usual, and had a low libido.. (until that 1st injection, damn im horny) I have talked to doctors and a guy who runs a treatment center using low lvls of test 100mg a weekish over extremely long periods.... would this be an idea... or can they stay good in a syringe for the year its gonna take me to bulk to proper size bfore starting?
iHulk
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changes, you got the right attitude. Stick around and learn. There will be some tuff love but eventually you'll be able to read through all the bullshit. There are lots vets on here with lots of experience, even some Doctors, Chemists, and long time BB'ers... you'll get some great advice and not so great advice.
Look at the main forum. Read all the stickies. Then go into the Diet and PCt forum and read all the stickies.
Give us your stats:
weight, height, bf?
what your diet currently looks like,
supplements you are taking and when,
training is a big part it? what does your training look like?
-ihulk
Look at the main forum. Read all the stickies. Then go into the Diet and PCt forum and read all the stickies.
Give us your stats:
weight, height, bf?
what your diet currently looks like,
supplements you are taking and when,
training is a big part it? what does your training look like?
-ihulk
paulwigan
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You gotta eat at least 5 times per day, and most importantly every day. At this time there is no bad calorie 1 day lost is 15% of your weekly food intake that may be enough to halt all gains for that week. and train really heavy only twice per week with no cardio. If you cant use a barbell for the exercise (except chins and dips) then it aint worth doing for you. You have to improve on these exercise every work out. We are talking squats, bench press, military press, deadlifts, bent over rows.
As you progress with these lifts you will get hungrier as your body will demand the food. If you start with steriods you will need them to maintained what you have gained.
Its your natural base you need to improve. you also need a more psoitive approach. You provide a lot of reasons of why you are at a disadvantage to others, low test levels, naturally skinny etc. Just get training and get stonger eack week. Its that easy. It is not as scientific as you think at the start. You eat more and get stronger you get bigger, the more you eat and the stronger you get it carries to a certain point. You have your health, all you need is now an appetite for hard work and perseverance. This sport is a marathon not a sprint. And we all started it for one reason. To get bigger. genetics are just your starting point.
As you progress with these lifts you will get hungrier as your body will demand the food. If you start with steriods you will need them to maintained what you have gained.
Its your natural base you need to improve. you also need a more psoitive approach. You provide a lot of reasons of why you are at a disadvantage to others, low test levels, naturally skinny etc. Just get training and get stonger eack week. Its that easy. It is not as scientific as you think at the start. You eat more and get stronger you get bigger, the more you eat and the stronger you get it carries to a certain point. You have your health, all you need is now an appetite for hard work and perseverance. This sport is a marathon not a sprint. And we all started it for one reason. To get bigger. genetics are just your starting point.
mlmdpump
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20ss02 said:changes said:ahhh suave i see your point some.. you making more sense now.. Are you all saying I need a better foundation to start with? Even if I radically changed my eating habits from today on.... I still couldnt gain at this current size? If so how much would you recommend I gain naturally 1st? (keep in mind this is almost impossible for me).
What he said ^ ...oh, and you CAN drink perfume
