pics before bulk phase

[drrman]

Really? So it's unnecessary mid-cycle? I thought I read some people get their best gains during their mid-cycle HCG.

people have reported some strength increases, but the gains mid cycle come from just that, being mid cycle, thats when your gains come

 

[boxerjake]

If i did 12 weeks of deca i'd be sending a search party looking for my dick ...


I most often use HCG post cycle as well as nolv or clomid but seldom mix the two

 

[Bruce]

12 weeks of deca is a no no for me too. 10 weeks and keep the test going longer imo. i'd use hcg every week at 500ius a week to keep my boys in the stable. deca can shut you down so your dick either wont get hard or you can't bust. no fun at all. your physique is phenomenal to say the least. good luck, keep bp and liver in check with the a bombs. i'd add proviron for libido issues at 50mg ed, and for sure use hcg for pct 10 days in a row a week after last test shot with nolva and clomid for sure

 

[steelmass]

500iu HCG weeks 14-16. lookin good bro keep it up. Add in dostinex too - it helped my recovery off of nandrolones alot. I'd also add Aromasin or AIFM with nolva.

 

[BigRupe]

Wk 1: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 2: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 3: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 4: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 5: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 6: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 7: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 8: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 9: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 10: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 11: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 12: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 13: 750mg Test E
Wk 14: 750mg Test E
Wk 15: 750mg Test E
Wk 17: NOLVA

do you think the nolva will be enough for post therepy?

HELL NO!!!!!

You need clomid, HCG, and an anti-e you're setting yourself up for major downgrade of natural test production.

I'd say 4 to 6 weeks of a serious PCT.

On a side note I think those dosages are far too high. Be careful bro'.

 

[bigmouth2006]

i agree with ulter, we have talked about this before, running HCG though the cycle will not help you in any way besides making your nuts appear better......its not going to make recovery any better in the end. i would save the HCG for post cycle, its a waste of money during the cycle

i totally agree with you guys and if you are taking l-dex your nuts should stay about the same through the cycle

 

[branch]

yea i downgraded this to

week 1-4 anadorl 100mg
weeks 1-14 deca 400mg run hcg 500iu
weeks 1-15 teste 500mg
weeks 17 nolva, clomid, rebound xt

what u guys think of that cause i hear everyones got different stories about this hcg and all that.

if u guys got another bulking cycle in mind feel free to hit me up

i got tren test e eq deca oxymeth
so any suggestions with those or maybe add sumtin to any of those would be great, ive never done a a REAL cycle so im lookin to do sumtin pretty serious this time around i havent touched nethin in bout 2 yrs

and thanks for the comments guys

 

[BigRupe]

yea i downgraded this to

week 1-4 anadorl 100mg
weeks 1-14 deca 400mg run hcg 500iu
weeks 1-15 teste 500mg
weeks 17 nolva, clomid, rebound xt

what u guys think of that cause i hear everyones got different stories about this hcg and all that.

if u guys got another bulking cycle in mind feel free to hit me up

i got tren test e eq deca oxymeth
so any suggestions with those or maybe add sumtin to any of those would be great, ive never done a a REAL cycle so im lookin to do sumtin pretty serious this time around i havent touched nethin in bout 2 yrs

and thanks for the comments guys

I have read a lot of research papers on HCG and gonad defecient males and the treatment for them is 6,000IU's a week for 3 to 6 months.

I think someone on a serious cycle of Test and Deca like you outlined will have some major impact on the luteinizing hormone your body produces.

Bottom line is most research shows that to increase testicular volume, a goal of any good PCT, takes much larger amounts of HCG then what most AAS users take.

I can't find my own thread I started that outlined this very interesting study.

Again I suggest you reexamine your PCT and remember the long half-life of the compounds you are taking will impact you for weeks after your cycle.

Rethink a 3 pronged attack, HCG, Clomid and an Anit-E

 

[steelmass]

I like HCG, Nolva, Aromasin - perfect combo for many reasons imo...

 

[drrman]

why did you drop the test....you look like you can handle it.....hell i'd have went to a gram personally!!! but thats just me

guys you will be competing against....the winners anyway i guarantee you ran more than 500mg in their bulking cycles