Phenibut make you hyper?

[GrumpyOldMan]

My insomnia has been bad lately, so I've been experimenting with different combos. Ideally, I'd like to get off everything, but that is not going to happen any time soon and I need to sleep in the meantime. I've tried all the natural stuff, but it has zero effect on me. Dr. put me on Zopiclone recently since he said it does not build a tolerance (he's FoS). Plus it only works for about 3 hours, so I have to take a 2nd one when I wake up.

I bought some Phenibut to stretch out the Zopiclone and hopefully not build up a tolerance as quickly. It seemed to work OK the first couple of times, but last night (1 gr) it just made me hyper as hell. It was a real fight to stay asleep. I've read that it also works on the Dopamine receptors, which I assume is causing the hyperactivity? Seems to give me a similar feeling as the Powerfull I've tried, only worse. Perhaps I need to scale back the dose?

 

[EnderJE]

My insomnia has been bad lately, so I've been experimenting with different combos. Ideally, I'd like to get off everything, but that is not going to happen any time soon and I need to sleep in the meantime. I've tried all the natural stuff, but it has zero effect on me. Dr. put me on Zopiclone recently since he said it does not build a tolerance (he's FoS). Plus it only works for about 3 hours, so I have to take a 2nd one when I wake up.

I bought some Phenibut to stretch out the Zopiclone and hopefully not build up a tolerance as quickly. It seemed to work OK the first couple of times, but last night (1 gr) it just made me hyper as hell. It was a real fight to stay asleep. I've read that it also works on the Dopamine receptors, which I assume is causing the hyperactivity? Seems to give me a similar feeling as the Powerfull I've tried, only worse. Perhaps I need to scale back the dose?

YOU LIVE! How's BM?

Scale back the dose. I assume that you're not taking any stimulants?

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

YOU LIVE! How's BM?

Scale back the dose. I assume that you're not taking any stimulants?

No, not the apparently infamous Grumpy Old Man.

I'll try cutting back to 'two sccops' rather than 3+.

Thanks.

 

[justinjones1963]

It is very easy to build up a tolerance for Phenibut. It stopped working for me after a few days. I used to be big into nootropics and I tried it and didn't like it. Watch out for the dosing because you will get one hell of a headache. 1g is probably way too much. Start out with 250g.

I recommend a cocktail of ZMA, GABA, melatonin, 5-HTP and L-tryptophan. There are other supplements out there that can help. Take the L-tryptophan first on an empty stomach (about 30-45 mins) before the others.

I suffered from PTSD after my third tour in the sandpit and sleep is the first thing to get fucked up. Ambien made me depressed and Rozrem did nothing so I switched to natural remedies.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

It is very easy to build up a tolerance for Phenibut. It stopped working for me after a few days. I used to be big into nootropics and I tried it and didn't like it. Watch out for the dosing because you will get one hell of a headache. 1g is probably way too much. Start out with 250g.

I recommend a cocktail of ZMA, GABA, melatonin, 5-HTP and L-tryptophan. There are other supplements out there that can help. Take the L-tryptophan first on an empty stomach (about 30-45 mins) before the others.

I suffered from PTSD after my third tour in the sandpit and sleep is the first thing to get fucked up. Ambien made me depressed and Rozrem did nothing so I switched to natural remedies.

Thanks,

Taking Zopiclone now because the doc said it did not build a tolerance, but by third day it has no effect on me. It also only keeps me asleep for three hours at a time. So I've been trying other things like Phenibut to Cycle off the Z for the rest of the week. Tried some Phenibut and booze, which knocked me out for a few hours, but had me wake up in a puddle (sweats). The other problem is that you don't sleep well on any of this shit, so making any gains is almost impossible.

I really need to go cold turkey, but this thing called Work would make that difficult. Already taking Magnesium, 5HTP and the rest you mentioned at night; haven't tried the Turkey Juice (Tryptophan) but I have some.

I had local surgery a while back and they gave me Oxy and Valium but still could not keep me out. They finally had to give me the stuff that killed Jackson to knock me out.

 

[justinjones1963]

Thanks,

Taking Zopiclone now because the doc said it did not build a tolerance, but by third day it has no effect on me. It also only keeps me asleep for three hours at a time. So I've been trying other things like Phenibut to Cycle off the Z for the rest of the week. Tried some Phenibut and booze, which knocked me out for a few hours, but had me wake up in a puddle (sweats). The other problem is that you don't sleep well on any of this shit, so making any gains is almost impossible.

I really need to go cold turkey, but this thing called Work would make that difficult. Already taking Magnesium, 5HTP and the rest you mentioned at night; haven't tried the Turkey Juice (Tryptophan) but I have some.

I had local surgery a while back and they gave me Oxy and Valium but still could not keep me out. They finally had to give me the stuff that killed Jackson to knock me out.

Stress like work is a bitch and for me it only adds to the problem. Going cold turkey and being a zombie for a few weeks is what eventually did it for me. I work out a lot and do deep breathing exercises, meditation I guess, and that helps a hell of lot.

In my experience I built up a tolerance very quickly to pretty much everything. I was on oxy due to an injury and that didn't put me out, it killed my sex drive though so I was happy when I was off of that.

I wish you luck.

 

[nimbus]

what what in the butt?

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

what what in the butt?

LOL, I think you've had enough already.