PGF2 and strength. Question for the Experts

[Jeff_rys]

i'll jump in and hopefully BBV and the Ranger as well

or other users.
First of all, (and i can only speak for myself) there was NEVER growth. Growth in my book means permanent growth. More muscle? it is more muscle irritation like shooting Winny in the arms. Most of this is also temporarely. There is NO strenght increase.
I will say it here again. When shooting 2 cc's at once every day for 3 months and only in the arms, size went down. Strenght also went down. Even taken Ox for 6 weeks did not make me recover. Every other bodypart was getting stronger. The arms hopefully in the near futur.
So what does this all mean?
If you are lucky you can gain on it. BUT in my opinion only in your first try. Once the body gets used to it, no point in going further.
What it did get me, arms are lean as hell and stay like that. But some gain on it. It all depends on the person.

 

[HappyScrappy]

how long would muscle irratation hang around?
I haven't injected into my biceps or tris since probably tuesday or wednesday of last week, yet they are definitely .5" bigger right now (no pump).

I do agree that I certainly have no strength increase right now.

I'm still not sure I'm seeing any fat reduction off of it either - but on the good side, the puking feeling seems to be getting less and less as I use it. just general uncomfortable feeling when I use it now.

 

[HappyScrappy]

nah, just a radiohead song.

 

[bill4362]

how often are you supposed to inject a muscle

 

[HappyScrappy]

officially as of last night, I don't feel like I'm gonna puke with every shot. although my body knows that if I'm setting the pins aside, discomfort is on the way, so I feel sick just looking at the pins.
last night I shot 50 units into either side of my stomach and 50 units into each tri. the left one seems to bruise everytime, knock on wood nothing else does.

I think I'm starting to notice a bit of fat reduction in the stomach area - I never had any (any noticeable at least) in my arms, the only fat I have is stomach, love handles, and parts of butt.
not sure if it is the site injections that are doing it, or the muscle injections, but it does seems to slowly be reducing it.
I'm also doing more cardio though, so hell, it might be from that - don't know.

unless the discomfort totally goes away, I'll likely stop after this week...

 

[juanjorod]

every one is different... personally with PGF2 i think more is not better!!

one of the reasons PGF2 enables growth is through catabolism, and if you overdo the shit you might not let possible gains settle...

my experience with PGF2 is shotr and painful. I only shot delts a few times, arms bis & tris for a month, peck twice, legs once...

what i noticed were my arms... i got better pumps ever since and i did c changes a bit in size and maybe in shape i could tell it was working but didn´t do much of it!!!