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ultragainz

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anyone here got size from pgf??iam thinking of taking it in my tris bis delts..start at 1/4cc then go to 1/2cc then back down to 1/4cc...not sure how to take it like this 2 weeks on 1 week off then repeat or 3 weeks on 1 week off then repeat...
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ahh.. I would go for something else, pgf2 is more for fat cutting and the sides are supposed to be ridiculous... And it mostly only effects the mimediate region where the injection was...

YUM
 
id like to learn more about it as it is said to possibly permanetly kill fat cells...That would be ridiclous if it was possible, as your body cannot naturally kill fat cells so no matter what your generally stuck with the same amount for the rest of your life, they can only swell or increase in number. Ultragainz do uhave any info on this?
 
Got this from testosterone.net

Lutalyse is a veterinary drug that's coming into vogue with serious hardcore bodybuilders who'll stop at nothing to gain an "advantage" (even if it's not a real advantage). Lutalyse is made by Upjohn and is a prostaglandin (PGF2Aa).

PGF2a possibly mediates the endogenous insulin levels and is also a de facto thermogenic, as body temperature is increased after the administration of exogenous PGF2a. Unlike other fat burners, which only decrease the size of fat cells, PGF2a actually destroys them. Fat cells die when exposed to PGF2a.

Side effects associated with PGF2a use are an elevation in body temperature, vomiting, labored breathing and severe abdominal pain/cramping. As PGF2a vasoconstricts the blood vessels in the lungs, the user will feel a tightening in the chest. If you're an asthmatic, use of PGFa could very well put you into full respiratory arrest followed by death. Because PGF2a increases insulinogenic effects, hypoglycemia is a potential side effect.

PGF2a has a very short half-life in the body (only minutes) and most of it is metabolized in the lungs, thus making frequent injections necessary. PGF2a will almost always cause a very strong contraction of the intestine and bladder, emptying the stomach and intestines of all its contents. That's a nice way of saying you'll have explosive diarrhea.

Rumor has it that PGF2a will make training near impossible because of the pump that is created from this drug alone. One of the logistical drawbacks of PGF2a is the difficulty of administration. As it has such a short half-life, injections will be needed quite frequently. Lutalyse comes in a 5 ml (5 mg/ml) multi-dose vial. A single aspirin can render the effects of Lutalyse nonexistent, so most people who use this drug avoid aspirin and aspirin analogs.



Hope this helps some

YUM
 
After reading that myself... Do you bros think that fat cells might not be the only ones killed when exposed to pgf2? maybe shit you DONT want dying also does... hmmm:confused:

YUM
 
yea but i wonder how many of these side effects are exaggerated, according to them lipokinetix is very dangerous, and dnp is the most deadliest substance on earth :)
 
that's true... but it was the only info i could easily find at the moment, ill search some more and see what i can come up with

YUM
 
Willy...good post, but it comes in 30ml vials by upjohn as well....around 40 to 60$ per vial....

PGF2A and anabolism.


Many studies have demonstrated an anabolic effect of PGF2A in skeletal muscles of both humans and animals. Paradoxically, PGF2A usage is still reserved to a bodybuilding elite and no one is willing to divulge its precious secret edge. One of the most remarkable effects of PGF2A is that it potentates the anabolic effects of insulin. By combining PGF2A, and insulin athletes can use much less insulin and get a much better muscle building effect than with insulin alone.


Is PGF2A safe?


The answer is clearly no, but neither is the use of steroids, insulin, clenbuterol, etc. By the way, PGF2A is invisible at any drug test. What kind of side effects to expect? The main side effect -- if we exclude the elevation of temperature - is a strong laxative effect. So make sure you have unrestricted use of a bathroom. This lasts around 20 minutes. What you do not want is to inject PGF2A into a vein! Learn to do the aspiration test. PGF2A is injected intramuscularly with an insulin needle if you are lean enough. Injecting in a vein will hurt like hell and for a very long time (up to an hour). You may feel as if you have a cold in your throat. This is due to the vasoconstriction effect PGF2A has in the lungs. Vomiting is a reported side effect but I have never heard of it in men.


PGF2A is not to be confused with steroids.


Although part of the anabolic actions of androgens are from a local release of PGF2A. PGF2A produces growth in a radically different way from steroids -- While steroid use is rather comfortable. PGF2A is used in a radically different way than Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids. With AS You inject or swallow them occasionally and wait for the growth to occur. This is not the case with PGF2A. PGF2A's main drawback is its difficult method of administration. Steroids once injected exert their effect for several days in the body. PGF2A's duration is only several minutes though its stimulatory action on anabolism lasts several hours. This means that to be effective, frequent injections are compulsory. An ideal injection schedule would be five times daily, 30 minutes after meals. You will also notice immediately after injecting PGF2A into the muscle, the injection site becomes sore almost immediately. If the muscle was already sore from training, the pain may become intense. You definitely do not want to repeat injections to the same location, hence the necessity of rotation. Additionally, you will notice you cannot inject into a muscle and then train that muscle. PGF2A is algesic (a pain mediator). Therefore, the timing of injections is key. You should wait for at least 2 to 3 days after you have trained a muscle before using it for an injection. Then you will have to wait for 24 hours before training this muscle. Again If your muscle is sore, I advise not injecting into it until it is not sore. You will also learn that it is more comfortable to inject the outer part of the muscle rather than the inner part. For example, it is less painful to hit the outer head of the triceps than the inner head that touches the lats. Some bodyparts such as the biceps and back are especially sensitive to the pain sensation PGF2A will induce.


PGF2A and weak bodyparts.


The cardinal rule of PGF2A is to inject as far away as possible from the intestines, PGF2A induces a very strong contraction of the intestine and the bladder (both smooth muscles). Bodybuilders found the best injection site was the front shoulder. But by repeating injections frequently in the shoulders, bodybuilders soon ended up with grossly overdeveloped front delt's. They looked like walking monkeys. The rest of their body was growing too, but not as fast as the muscles closest to the Injections site. What this means is that PGF2A is ideal for developing a lagging muscle, just inject PGF2A locally and watch! The muscle grows. And, the increased in size is real muscle growth and not artificial swelling like Synthol or Esiclene would induce. The calves are another obvious muscle of choice. In fact, even if your calves have failed to grow no matter how much you have trained them, PGF2A will Solve your problem. After a single cycle of PGF2A, unresponsive calves start to respond, even if they never did before! The localized growth induced by PGF2A may appear magical, but there is a Simple explanation. The Life Cycle of the injected PGF2A is terribly short (minutes). In minutes, most of it will be destroyed by the lungs.If you hit your right calf for example, the muscle is exposed to a Maximum Concentration of PGF2A. As the prostaglandin dissipates and passes into the Blood, it quickly reaches the lungs where most of it is destroyed. What is remaining Is dispersed evenly though the entire body. This limited dispersed means that other muscles away from the injection site will be Exposed to far less of the Anabolic effects of PGF2A. So unless you only want to make a weak body pant grow, you Should rotate the Sites of injections frequently.


Just a little more info on it for you...hope it helps...

Ranger
 
Sorry Ultra, I don't know much about this compund, all I can say is good luck and keep us posted, Make sure you are not far from the toilet after you inject it ;)

M18
 
I actually prefer that method Ultra, to a point that is....simply put, after 2 weeks of multiple injections, the sides lesson a bit...almost become tolerable to a point....BUT, a sorta needle-phobia sets in as well, you will cringe at seeing the slin pins....

You take a week off, gain a bit of confidence, things get somewhat back to normal, and you start again....the sides seem to be just as harsh all over, this can go round and round at times....

It leaned me out very well, GREAT increase in vascularity, and the veins actually took on a deep blueish-purple type hue....looked freaky as Hell when pumped at the gym....

I think there is really no set standard, save this....start slow, increase the dosage just a small bit at a time, be aware of the sides and what your body tells you....Remember, there are no studies on the long term effects when using this drug....just a thought on it....

Ranger
 
ok so is this good...something like this might make some changes not sure..

wks1---1/4cc
wks2---1/4cc
wk3 off
wk4 1/4cc
wk5 1/2cc
wks6 off
wks7 1/2cc
wks8 1/2cc
wks9 off
wks10 1/2cc
wks11 1/2cc
wks12 off
wks 13 1/2cc
wks14 1/4cc
wks15 off
wks16 1/4cc
wks17 1/4cc
wks18 done
 
Hey ranger, since pgf2 actually KILLS the fat cells throetically couldn't you kill of all the fat cells in your given injection area, eventually and never have to worry about getting chub again?

YUM
 
Ranger said it has it is

Willyumyum said:
Hey ranger, since pgf2 actually KILLS the fat cells throetically couldn't you kill of all the fat cells in your given injection area, eventually and never have to worry about getting chub again?

YUM

I tried to get a 6-pack for life with it, but didn't succeed. Lost some fat in the waist area but not enough. Do have a 6-pack now when on Ox and Winny, but this only while on roids of course.
 
I can not believe all the regurgitation of information here. I can tell you this from actual personal experience, pgf2a did NOT build any muscle, did NOT create and lasting size increases, and did NOT kill any fat cells that I could tell. It did make me feel like a pincushion and feel like shit all the time. Had two bottles, after 1 and a half, threw the rest away! If this stuff worked only half as well as all this misinfo states, everyone would be using this stuff! NOT!
 
jboldman said:
I can not believe all the regurgitation of information here. I can tell you this from actual personal experience, pgf2a did NOT build any muscle, did NOT create and lasting size increases, and did NOT kill any fat cells that I could tell. It did make me feel like a pincushion and feel like shit all the time. Had two bottles, after 1 and a half, threw the rest away! If this stuff worked only half as well as all this misinfo states, everyone would be using this stuff! NOT!

you do know that pgf2a is site intensive... meaning to kill fat cells you have to inject into that area, like if you wanna lose fat cells in the stomach it needs to be injected there... I believe that's how it works...
YUM
 
lol, I wonder how many injections you would need to kill the majority of fat cells in just ur abdominal area. I would inject 5x a day for a week just to kill half my abdominal fat cells. Any personal anecdotes, dosages? It seems pretty cheap to.
Also someone said inject it into muscles? Wouldn't it make sense to inject it into fat? like adominal fat :D
 
i think you can use it transdermally to, think about the results of dnp w/ yohimburn mixed with pgf2a .... -> fucking shredded
 
My guess is it's probably just as legal as tren because they are both farm-related drugs, but don't hold me to that....
YUM
 
PGF2A requires a script from a vet....got cows??? Go for it....then it can be purchased for about 18$ per 30ml vial....heh heh heh

Ranger
 
Ranger, when you say, "After a single cycle of PGF2A, unresponsive calves start to respond," how long would such a targetting cycle last? And what about keeping the gains afterwards, should the difficulty be any greater than from a normal steroid cycle?
 
I don't see the point in intramuscular injections. I would think it would be more practical to inject it into the fatty tissue. For instance, grabbing a love handle or nipple and injecting there. Lemme know if this is case. I know nothing about this product, but am always willing to learn. Later.

Intra
 
forget about transdermal

overrx said:
Ranger have you had any experiences with transdermal pgf2?

i did rub it in (80 cc's, yes 80 cc's at once). It took me one hour and the results where nada.

Intramuscular, you should do a search...
And yes, it does kill fat cells.

As for the Ranger, i know he used it transdermal.
 
Intramuscular-- i had thought about just pinching an inch and shovin the needle in. But from experience you get a little dip in your skin. it won't spread evenly enuff for a smooth look. nd as for growth well I gained a little over a 1/4 inch in 2 weekz on it. not much pain just a lot of crampz and flue like symptomz. and bigbrotherval seemed to gain a little from it too. looked for his post but could not find it. l8rz.
 
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