BallzoutSprinter said:
Also... heres an even more interesting question.... I dont want to be "on" during the season.... I would consider that kinda underhanded and like cheating... hehe... but my gf thinks that taking anything period, even in offseason is "cheating", and that im kidding myself if i think otherwise????
Well I'm sure rider will agree with me (and this isn't passing judgment on anyone), but taking anything at any time is cheating, according to the letter of the law. And everyone cheats. Everyone has taken a substance on the banned list for doping purposes. Caffeine is on the banned list-how many people drink that cup of coffee before a race? Even if the amount is well below the legal limit, the intent is there to use it as a stimulant. Now the banned list is there to protect our health, but in reality it doesn't. It prevents us from taking medication that may alleviate pain or swelling and prevents us from taking hormones our body may need to function normally. This is a whole new thread but you can see that it is easy to justify taking a substance on the banned list. However, don't fool yourself: in season, off season, for therapeutic reasons, whatever-banned list equals cheating. But part of any sport is knowing how to push the limits and not get caught.
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1. Growth - You said you wouldnt stack slin with it.... why? everyone is telling me otherwise... I heard that different companies HGH is stronger than others..... anythoughts? Are there any companies that you would stay away from? You said 2-4 iu's a day... i had serano before... there were 7 vials in the "kit" that was supposed to last a month..... meaning each vial contained 6mg delivering 18iu of somatropin per vial.....if i made each vial last 4 days, that would be 4.5iu's per day, or if i made it last 6 days, that would be 3iu's per day.... right? Also, i took the injections SC in the fat of my stomach in the MORNING... the thought behind taking it in the morning was not to shut down my own natural production at night.... any thoughts?
Slin and GH are antagonistic so this is why people cycle them together. Cyclists take hGH more for the the recuperative aspects than the growth aspect. BB'ers stack the two in high doses to grow huge-cyclists should avoid this. Unwanted weight gain is your enemy. The GH should be used to repair your body and stay healthy. Plus it will help you lose body fat. The low dose I recommended shouldn't require slin to be cycled with it. If you were taking 8iu/day that would be different. My buddy said take shots in morning and evening.
2. Slin - if i take it post training/race... exactly when should i take it, and how much? and for how long? Is it the same slin that diabetics use? knowing that there is a system of checks and balances in the body, could i make myself a diabetic by doing this?
Slin is tricky and I don't know the details so I'll say ask someone on the anabolic board. But you won't need much and you will need to plan out an appropriate meal as well. IMO you really don't need the slin you could cut this supp out. It could easily backfire on you and is more dangerous than EPO. Unless you are really well versed in the science of slin/nutrient timing don't worry about it.
3. EPO - i have been looking all over and have yet to find anyone on the net who claims to have it.... is that something i could get in Mexico?
Probably, but there are plenty of domestic sources. Do a source check on the anabolic board-be discrete though.
4. TEST - what would you recomend that i get on... for low dose??? the transdermal stuff referenced earlier in this thread? i mentioned the transdermal stuff on another site that i have been talking to people on, and they seemed to think that low doses might suppress my own natural production????
ANY anabolic will suppress your natural test production. If you do the training you need to do, you will greatly stress your body. This will lead to hormonal suppresion. Anabolics will help by replacing the hormones your body is NOT producing. However they also cause your body to greatly reduce hormone production-so your natural levels are really low. Post cycle you need normal levels to comeback fast so you don't have a major drop in form (you'll have fitness but your body will feel like shit while recovering from AAS). You should take recovery drugs like clomid or arimidex to aid recovery. Anyway, the test gel or patch would work well as the therapeutic dose it delivers is plenty of test for a skinny bike racer and will raise your hcrit just like EPO (even higher actually!). You could take it per the directions on the package and have good success. Other tests are injectable. I might ask on the anabolic board. But you could get by IMO with less than 300mg/wk. You want a short acting test also. A long acting ester will stay in your system too long-and you could test + for it if you get tested and didn't give yourself enough time to get clean.
5. anavar.... i think that one is easy to get ahold of.... but many companies... many fakes.... is there one that u recommend? and what dosage? for how long??? stacking it with the gh on off season?
BTG Oxadrin is the legit kind in the US. Get it from a good source as ox is frequently faked. 15-30mg should be fine for you if you are under 200lbs-which you should be as a cyclist! Run it for 6-8wks. With GH would be ideal! Monkeyballs (another tested athlete) was going to do this for his cycle. Search under his name on Elite Fitness and CuttingEdge Muscle. Monkeyballs has some good info for all of us!
6. The other site i mentioned, everyone is saying that winny is what i should take, and forgoe the transdermals that were mentioned... any thoughts on that?
Winny is good, but often faked. One disadvantage is that it can cause joint pain. However sprinters love winny and swear it makes them faster (I'm sure there is some science behind that). Winny would be a good choice too. You could skip the test gel and use it.
7. assuming whatever stack of the above mentioned you recommend for the offseason... what will i need to get on afterward to recover????? u mentioned clomid?? what is it? lol
Clomid is an estrogen blocker. It will help to raise lutenizing hormone which will help your natural test levels recover. Do a search and you can find different ways to take it. Usage depends on the type of drug you use. It will help recovery.
SOO SORRY for all the questions... i only ask because i do not know... and i do not wish to harm myself.... i really appreciate you guys caring for my well-being, and helping me figure out what to do, and more importantly, what NOT to do.... i welcome all answers from everyone..... thanks!
We'll point you in the correct direction. Remember the chances of you getting tested are slim to none. Also keep in mind that more is not better. And train, train, train!
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