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cgar1228
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From my limited knowledge of peptides CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 would be the way to go. I am noticing more benefit from these two than I did from synth hgh at 4iu/day.
You will want to use ghrp-6 at 100mcg, 2 or 3 X per day
& cjc-1295 w/o DAC at 100mcg once E3Days. cjc only looses about 10% effectiveness per day after the injection so at 3 days out you are still at 73% effective. GHRP only stays in your system for about 2 hours so it's a lot more high maintenance than cjc.
The answer to your last question is whatever is affordable to you. People usually say at least 3 months on or you won't notice much...
I thought with DAC was the way to go for increasing half-life? I am very new to this so I am not sure if it matters at all.
Para_Shoot
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I would really go with Ipamorelin instead of GHRP-6. No prolactin and no hunger. Much better overall I think.
I had read that and I think I would prefer Ipamorelin for that reason. Would you use straight Ipamorelin or would you still use the CJC 1295 in conjunction?
cgar1228
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lol i'm always hungry no matter what so i didn't notice much in the way of this. i haven't tried Ipamorelin but i read another post where you said that you've tried both and like it better. There are others that have done both and still prefer cjc. i'm open to try it out after i'm done with the cjc just to see which works better for me.
how often do you inject Ipamorelin para?
Para_Shoot
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Well, I'm on my peptides just for anti-ageing purposes, and I know for a fact they are working for that. I was doing CJC-1295 two times a week at 200mcg's each shot and I was taking Ipamorelin at 100mcg a day with that. Now I still take the Ipa at 100mcg a day but now I'm trying CJC-1293. Had my first shot of the 1293 today, so I don't know about it yet.
Para_Shoot
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Ha. I don't have anymore fat to loose. I'm on 50mg of test cyp and 50mg of tren enanthate a week for my HRT, and even at 50mg of tren enanthate a week, thats keeping any fat from not forming. I don't think my protocol of peptides is anywhere near 4iu's of growth a day. Heck, when I was on HgH I was only taking 2iu's a day, so I have no idea what 4iu's of Hgh a day does, but it sure isn't an anti ageing dose..
Just looked at your pics....yup, no fat to lose there. Nice work.
Would you say your peptide proto is in line with the 2iu's of HGH you were taking?
Para_Shoot
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I would like to think so. Mind you, I was taking Chinese blue top growth, so I would think my peptides would be somewhat comparable to 1.5iu~2iu. Now I don't think my peptides would be equal to 2iu's of something like Serostim or Jins.
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ALIN
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I'm using Ipamorelin with cjc1295 myself real soon to make my own opinions. I chose the IPAM for as you mentioned,,no prolactin issues.
Thanks Alin. What dosage are you going to run?
Anyone using this combo or any others and at what dosages?
I have read a lot of good things about ipa and may go that direction. Now I am trying to find the most synergistic complement. How much would you run of each to get the benefits of say 4iu's of GH with no GH involved- or is that even possible?
cgar1228
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I found an interesting piece of Datbtrue's writeup about these differing GHRPs. So Rambleon, if one isn't concerned with Cortisol, or prolactin rise or is being monitored, then GHRP-2 may be the most effective. If you are worried about this then the safest, most effective bet is Ipamorelin. At any rate GHRP-6 is comparable to these so I will continue using it until out.
"Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.
GHRP-6 at the saturation dose 100mcg does not really increase prolactin & cortisol but may do so slightly at higher doses. This rise is still within the normal range.
GHRP-2 is a little more efficacious then GHRP-6 at causing GH release but at the saturation dose or higher may produce a slight to moderate increase in prolactin & cortisol. This rise is still within the normal range although doses of 200 - 400mcg might make it the high end of the normal range.
Hexarelin is the most efficacious of all of the GHRPs at causing an increase in GH release. However it has the highest potential to also increase cortisol & prolactin. This rise will occur even at the 100mcg saturation dose. This rise will reach the higher levels of what is defined as normal.
In effect, Ipamorelin is the best of these GHRP's in a way in that it can be dosed higher than GHRP-6 without concern for cortisol or prolactin, and possibly it does not have has strong of a hunger/appetite response as GHRP-6."
"Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.
GHRP-6 at the saturation dose 100mcg does not really increase prolactin & cortisol but may do so slightly at higher doses. This rise is still within the normal range.
GHRP-2 is a little more efficacious then GHRP-6 at causing GH release but at the saturation dose or higher may produce a slight to moderate increase in prolactin & cortisol. This rise is still within the normal range although doses of 200 - 400mcg might make it the high end of the normal range.
Hexarelin is the most efficacious of all of the GHRPs at causing an increase in GH release. However it has the highest potential to also increase cortisol & prolactin. This rise will occur even at the 100mcg saturation dose. This rise will reach the higher levels of what is defined as normal.
In effect, Ipamorelin is the best of these GHRP's in a way in that it can be dosed higher than GHRP-6 without concern for cortisol or prolactin, and possibly it does not have has strong of a hunger/appetite response as GHRP-6."
Para_Shoot
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I think you need both a GHRP and a GHRH, like a CJC 12 whatever or Sermorelin and a Ipamorelin or GHRP-2. One to initiate the pulse and one to intensify it. Then I believe you will attain near HgH effects. Saturation doses is something to beware of, meaning only so much Ipamorelin a day will do anything.
rambleon
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That's exactly what I read to form the opinion i just gave. Stick to saturation dose and there will be no problems. On a side note i myself is about to switch from gh to a combo of grhp6 and mod grf 1-29. I got the peptides which is supposed to be clinical grade from a very trusted source at a reasonable price so I also went with the 6 for starters.
cgar1228
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Best price i've seen by far is the place i got it from especially if you by in bulk. Free shipping and it was to my house in 1 day! Unbelievable
You absolutely nailed it. Ipamorelin is so much more selective. GHRP-6 has gotten so much undeserved hype. It's a bit of a junk GHRP IMO.
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cgar1228
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which one are you saying is so much more selective, Ipamorelin or GHRP-2? bc they are not the same thing. So you have taken all of these and didn't like -6?
They certainly aren't. I went that and added that parenthetically while distracted. Was probably going to add a remark about GHRP-2 being a stronger GH releaser than Ip, but sloppier.
cgar1228
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I figured it was probably a typo.. Thanks for the input on this!
i'd suggest that if you are older 35+ the slow release will be fine since you are looking for the anti aging effects..
but really either will do well depending on your training and goals..
YES, and more.
modified GRF 1-29 & GHRP -6 or GHRP -2 or Ipamorelin
1mcg/kg/bw which for most males is about 100mcg. It is best run at one of all of these times, in this order or preference:
30 minutes post bed time
post work out
30 minutes pre breakfast
As with GH, about 6 months minimum.
Hey para, are you noticing any benefits of the 1293 over 1295?
Also, do you think what you have outlined above for dosage will work for endurance recovery and fat loss or should I bump it up a touch?
