People that Believe in "Natural" Only Shouldn't Drive Cars Either.

[vinylgroover]

Wombat,

What about Andreas Munzer, Momo Benaziza, just to name a couple who you would have heard of, and countless others who are not professional who die but you never hear about it. Let's not bury our head in the sand people and dismiss the harmful side effects of steroids.

Sure they have medical benefits as well, but they are administered under medical supervision in a controlled environment. That is in stark comparison to a gym junkie who knows SFA about what he is taking, particulalry when they are stacking multiple steroids. How the hell do they know what they're doing. Or are you going to trot out the usual crap that bodybuilders know what they're doing when it comes to steroids

 

[b fold the truth]

What about Andreas Munzer, Momo Benaziza, just to name a couple who you would have heard of, and countless others who are not professional who die but you never hear about it. Let's not bury our head in the sand people and dismiss the harmful side effects of steroids.

So you are saying that AAS killed them? Why is it that I can not find a single article about how it killed them? I'd think that our government would have used these two as poster boys for keeping AAS out of America if that were the case.

You sure that Momo's problems weren't from diuretics? What about Munzer? I was under the impression (probably wrong though) that he was on some types of pain medication or something...I don't know.

B True

 

[needsize]

Wombat,

What about Andreas Munzer, Momo Benaziza, just to name a couple who you would have heard of, and countless others who are not professional who die but you never hear about it. Let's not bury our head in the sand people and dismiss the harmful side effects of steroids.

Sure they have medical benefits as well, but they are administered under medical supervision in a controlled environment. That is in stark comparison to a gym junkie who knows SFA about what he is taking, particulalry when they are stacking multiple steroids. How the hell do they know what they're doing. Or are you going to trot out the usual crap that bodybuilders know what they're doing when it comes to steroids

From what I remember, those guys died from use of diuretics, not steroids

 

[gwl9dta4]

MOMO died from Diuretics. That is a fact. So bunk that argument.

Munzer died from internal stomach bleeding, Steroids were NOT inplicated in the cause of that condition. Many bodybuilders suffer from this condition due to the abuse they put their stomach and intestines through when force feeding themselves for years even decades in a row. Force feeding and heavy weight training do not go together well, especially for prolonged periods of time.

I will say again, do not use the blanket statement about "steroids" being bad. Please state which kind of steroid you are refering to, and then the specific compound in that category.

 

[gwl9dta4]

Also i would like to add that most anabolics are very forgiving when it comes to abuse, so much so in fact that if almost any other drug or even alcohol were abused in the same way the outcome would be certain death.

 

[vinylgroover]

Let's get serious guys.

Munzer died from MASSIVE internal bleeding. His insides were rotted to the core. You're telling me that excessive food intake did that. Have you read the steroid regimen that Munzer was on. Have you heard of Halotestin. I think you need to pull your head out of the sand.

 

[vinylgroover]

By the way,

The only reason deaths such as those are covered up by the Weider organisation is that the whole sport and his empire would crumble accordingly. The only reason the sport flourishes as a sport is because of steroids. People love seeing freaks. No one will pay to see natural bodybuilders. However, steroids is also the reason the sport will eventually crumble.

 

[b fold the truth]

Let's get serious guys.

Munzer died from MASSIVE internal bleeding. His insides were rotted to the core. You're telling me that excessive food intake did that. Have you read the steroid regimen that Munzer was on. Have you heard of Halotestin. I think you need to pull your head out of the sand.

Man...you must be right. I mean...you did the autopsy...right? You read the research too...right? You saw where it said in black and white that AAS were the reason that Munzer died...I'm just a little guy taking blind stabs at my own opinion.

Question though...why aren't powerlifter killing over dead? A lot of the top powerlifters use massive amounts of test, adrol, dbol, halo, fina, etc...how come they are still living?

I'll try to get my head out of the sand...but when my big ears get full of sand...they are hard to do anything with.

B True

 

[b fold the truth]

By the way,

The only reason deaths such as those are covered up by the Weider organisation is that the whole sport and his empire would crumble accordingly. The only reason the sport flourishes as a sport is because of steroids. People love seeing freaks. No one will pay to see natural bodybuilders. However, steroids is also the reason the sport will eventually crumble.

I had no idea that Joe Weider covered up the mysterious deaths of those guys. I wonder how many other deaths he covered up? The entire organization must be crooked. I mean...if Joe Weider can keep a major secret like their deaths from out government...he must be majorly powerful.

I HAD a good friend who passed away last year. He was a very very strong man. His wife woke up one morning and he had blood running from his nose and mouth...dead. He had been having tons of pain from a "stunt" that he had pulled breaking concrete blocks with his head and showing his love for the Lord. What took the blame for his internal bleeding? To many ignorant people...AAS did. To those who knew him...they knew what caused the internal bleeding in his brain...and it was NOT AAS.

Till you show me some hard proof (not from Flex magazine either) that either of these two guys passed away from use of AAS...I don't think that you are gonna convince anyone but yourself and other ignorant people.

B True

 

[gwl9dta4]

Let's get serious guys.

Munzer died from MASSIVE internal bleeding. His insides were rotted to the core. You're telling me that excessive food intake did that. Have you read the steroid regimen that Munzer was on. Have you heard of Halotestin. I think you need to pull your head out of the sand.

Is there a reason you have to be so condesending? Maybe it's you with the head in the sand, as you clearly can't see any facts outside of what you want to see. As to the Munzer case, his insides were not rotten as you put it. His problem was in the fact that he neglected to go to the hospital when the symptoms first appeared. Then he made it even worse when he took the flight back to Europe from the US. That was another 7 hours wasted. His condition could have been saved if not for the delay in treatment.

Blood in the stomach is actually quite a common occurence in medicine stemming from a variety of reasnons including ulcers. Now an untreated ulcer CAN be deadly, and such ulcers are experienced by people everyday and they do not use steroids.

The supposed cycles of Andreas Munzer were all fictional, as there was never any proof as to their authenticity. So do not always believe what "Spiegel" magazine publishes. I bet you get your news from "The National Enquirerer".

And lastly, yes i have heard of of Halotestin, and your point is?