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Pectoral Question

The Iotola

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I know this is not 100% related to AAS, but I like the group of guys in this little nook better then any other forum.

I've got a rather annoying problem. After my cycle, every body part almost tripled in size except for my pectoral muscles. My chest expanded quite nicely, but the pectoral muscles were not as significant as I would have expected.

My form, weight, and excercises are blueprints of ones to build solid mass on a chest and I always feel that I work my chest to its limit on chest days. Is this something genetic or will it take a while to build a real solid pec's. I've also noticed that my left pec is a bit more full and defined then my right.
 
may be genetics, you may be over training your pecs or maybe both. I know one guy that has huge pecs but has tiny arms and shoulders.........I'd rather be in your shoes
 
agree genetics play a huge role.

Your not over training if your on a cycle. if your not then it is VERY possible your over training.

Change up your routine! Try supersets. What worked for me was: When you can press anymore rack the weight. Wait 30 seconds then do 2 more, wait again and do 1 more. After I did that I was burning and sore for a day even on cycle!

But to each person there is a different way. Try them all till you find what makes your pecs explode!
 
thx bros, ill def give the superset a shot eagle. Chest day is the one that I look forward to, because everything else is in top shape. Hopefully the pec muscle will start to fill out in 2 months.
 
thelion2005 said:
Please provide your routine.

Warmup flat with 15 reps

1 Flat bench 8,6,6 Increase weight each set.

2 Incline bb 8,6,6 .Increase each set.

3 Decline DB's, 8,6,6

4 Alternate between DB flies/Machine all till failure.
 
I also have the same problem as you bro. My left pec is also a bit larger and better looking than my right. My arms and shoulders over-take my pecs, and while my pecs use to grow fairly easily they dotn anymore
 
The Iotola said:
Warmup flat with 15 reps

1 Flat bench 8,6,6 Increase weight each set.

2 Incline bb 8,6,6 .Increase each set.

3 Decline DB's, 8,6,6

4 Alternate between DB flies/Machine all till failure.


I'd say add more volume, especially when you're on cycle. My flat bench routine looks like this:

2x10
2x8
2x6
2x4

I then follow up with some incline BB bench, usually just 4 sets. 2 of 10 and 2 of 8. Then pec deck flies and some cable flies.

Do your warmup set before starting this. All the sets should be hard, but you should be able to complete them with good form. After your two sets of ten, add 10lbs to your sets of 8, then 10lbs more to your sets of 6, then 10lbs more to your sets of 4. This will take some working up to if you haven't been doing volume like it before. Start off doing 2x10....2x8....1x6 with the 10lb weight increase. Then after a week or two, throw in the second set of 6, or maybe a set of 4. Just use common sense, listen to your body, and give yourself about a month or so to work into being able to complete the entire workout.

On your sets of 6 and 4, you probably won't be able to us as much weight at first as you are used to. Don't worry about that. I often invite guys who are used to getting 315 4 or 5 times to work chest with me, and I can always tell that they are discouraged when we get down to the sets of 4 and they can only move 285-295 for them. They are more worried about not getting their chest too tired so that they can still load up the bar with alot of weight for their last set and really impress everyone instead of leaving their ego at the door and worrying more about doing a better workout that more significantly recruits all the muscle fibers in their chest. They usually avoid working chest with me again because it just means too much to them mentally to get that big weight on bench everytime they walk in there.

Even back before I ever considered touching gear, I could easily go up in poundage on all sets week by week doing this routine twice a week. At one point when I was about 19, I actually had to stop the routine because my chest was growing so rapidly that the stretch marks along my front delts were starting to look sick. My knowledge of diet and gettin adequate nutrition wasn't a third of what it is now either, and I still made these gains. Due to these expierences, I tend to believe that the term "overtraining" is used a little too much. There is a such thing as overtraining, but I think alot of guys never get close to it and instead use the threat of it as an excuse to stop way shy of doing a workload that their body could handle and make better gains off of. When I go back to this routine today, I find my chest getting thicker and thicker week by week ( it's almost unreal when I'm on cycle!) and the pounds move up week by week. Yea, and after about 6wks of it, I'll notice new stretch marks on my outter pecs/front delts which cause me to wanna lay off it again when they start getting too ugly :worried: .

If all else fails bro, give this high volume flat bench routine a try. Still do your following exercises like incline BB and flies, and just use your current rep range on those movements. Like I said, it'll take some time to get the muscle endurance to complete everything successfully. I'm currently working my way back into it right now, slowly but surely :) . Do chest on your first day in the gym each week, so your body is rested and you have all your strength to put into it. I do this routine on Monday, then do a few light sets (about 20lbs lighter than what I did my sets of 10 with monday) on just flat bench Thursday to get the stiffness and soreness out of my pecs and to warm my shoulders up for their heavy workload that day. Make sure you're using a wide enough grip on the bar so that your chest is getting the majority of the work, not the triceps. And of course, eat like hell and get plenty of sleep. :RADAR :sleeping: :RADAR :sleeping:
 
From what I have seen in guys who lift weights... Some have an easy time developing chest, and others have an easy time developing shoulders.... Very rarely will you find someone who has ease developing both, except guys like Arnold..... From your routine you posted, I'd reccomend throwing in dips instead of decline benching..... Maybe some cross cable action too.... All that benching isn't much variety is my point, even if you are varying the angle.... You need to recruit more muscle fibers from varying exercises to get maximum stimulation, and growth..... Here's an idea: Make a list of chest exercises, everything from Butterflys to Flat Bench, make a HUGE list, and vary your chest day till no end..... Never do the same workout twice, this technique works pretty well, I actually read that concept in one of Arnold's books..... Good luck man....

rizz
 
i just do low incline DB and weighted dips and my chest is fine..
as for flat press, i never noticed too much growth with that exercise..

as for the imbalance, i am extremely anal about symentry with my bodyparts.. i have even gone so far as to add exercises for a side that i thought was lagging.. to be honest with you, you are almost always the only person that notices this imbalance.. everyone has them but unfortunately we are our own hardest judges... look at any of the cock deisel guys on this board and get their measurements and im sure that one side is a little different than the other..
just focus on db's, form and stretching.. everything will even out over time...
 
Yeah, I'd say try jumpball's routine. Seems like he has really been around the block with chest excersizes. I do flat bench-4 heavy sets, flat DB-3 heavy sets, incline DB-3 heavy sets, DB fly-3 heavy sets, weighted dips(chest kind)-3 sets. This has my chest really full and even. I started out really uneven as I was a top ranked state tennis player and it took me a while to even out. This routine has worked awesome for me.
 
had the same problem

only 2 routines work for me

My pecs are no huge

1)
5 Sets incline Smith Machine
5 Sets Machine Flat bench ( sitting up right)
3 Sets CabLe Flys


2)
4 sets Incline DB press
4 sets Decline barbell bench press
3 Sets Cable flys


1 is for quality or diet training

2 is for mass
 
The Iotola said:
Warmup flat with 15 reps

1 Flat bench 8,6,6 Increase weight each set.

2 Incline bb 8,6,6 .Increase each set.

3 Decline DB's, 8,6,6

4 Alternate between DB flies/Machine all till failure.

bro, maybe you ought to consider frequency of training/wk vs more volume on your split.
 
silver_shadow said:
bro, maybe you ought to consider frequency of training/wk vs more volume on your split.

yeah, i've come to realize that 1 time per week isnt enough for my lagging chest. Gonna hit it Mon/Thurs.

I was always under the impression that flat builds sheer mass and strength, but upon reading these replies it seems that Incline bar is the way to go.

I'm gonna try doing
4x Incline Bar
4x Decline DB
3x Flies

and maybe some Dips.
 
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