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Pec Dec Machine, only for faggots
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Gambino
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steely dan does pec deck for leg day
KillahBee
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I end my chest day on the pec deck.
You know what's for faggots? People who think only certain machines are for "men".
That could be the gayest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
You know that stretch the pec deck gives me? Yeah, it helps when I am spreading your collective sisters' meaty legs apart like a wishbone.
Nugga
You know what's for faggots? People who think only certain machines are for "men".
That could be the gayest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
You know that stretch the pec deck gives me? Yeah, it helps when I am spreading your collective sisters' meaty legs apart like a wishbone.
Nugga
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jenscats5
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I like to cycle it in & out of my workout schedule.....
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The Shadow
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they are shoulder issues waiting to happen
Smurfy is smart
Smurfy is smart
KillahBee
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The Shadow said:
Do you have scientific research to back this up? Would be interested to see...
I tore my RC a few years ago and did some decently extensive rsrch on shoulder problems and prevention. On simply a "feeling" level, db inclines (yes, done with correct form) are a LOT tougher on the shoulder than the pec deck
needtogetaas
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I end my chest day with peck decks and I have a huge chest.
flat bech
incline
decline
cable flys
push ups
pec decs.
flat bech
incline
decline
cable flys
push ups
pec decs.
needtogetaas
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lol you trying to kill me.I throw in some other shit if I feel I have the energy.but I allso do tryseps on chest day so I allready doSmurfy said:
dips
skullcrushers
pushdowns
close grip bench.
cable pull overs.
so if I add any more I will kill myself.
I swich work outs from time to time to keep it difrant.some times I will use dumbells instead of the bare.some times I will supperset 3-4 difrant ecxersizes and shit like that.
i think the basic movement on the pec deck seems a bit unnatural for the joints involved. At least with the DB flyes, youre not trying to touch your elbows together lol but you have to stick to movements that dont cause discomfort especially when youre rehabbing an injury.KillahBee said:
Pec Deck: Another machine that wreaks havoc on the shoulder joints is the pec dec, which can rotate the position of the shoulders unnaturally and place less resistance on the chest and more on your front delts. Try doing a simulated pec deck press right now touching your elbows together... you'll notice your shoulders will roll forward (slouch), potentially dangerously stressing your shoulder muscles and joints.
http://www.realsolutionsmag.com/ezine/40/issue40a.asp
Longhorn85
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Flat Barbell Bench
Dips
Overhead Barbell Presses
Barbell Curls
Seated Row
Lat Pull Downs
Tricep Kickbacks
...is my upper body routine of late
Dips
Overhead Barbell Presses
Barbell Curls
Seated Row
Lat Pull Downs
Tricep Kickbacks
...is my upper body routine of late
boxerjake
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Dumbell flies and or pec deck are not know as great mass building exercises but they are a good starting point and predefetion .
Flies are a good warm up and stretch before moving to your desired mass building pressing movements , also good to defete the pecs so they get more work during pressing as most pressing is compounded .
The deck is also good at the end of your chest routine if you do " peaks " , bringing your hands together and interlacing your fingers ... release for 6 to 8 inchs of pump , makes for a great center cut in the center of your chest . I prefure to do this with cable as you can over extend and pass each hand making for a tighter flexion .
Machines also don't fit everyones body type ... thats why there are so many mixed reviews on machine work
Flies are a good warm up and stretch before moving to your desired mass building pressing movements , also good to defete the pecs so they get more work during pressing as most pressing is compounded .
The deck is also good at the end of your chest routine if you do " peaks " , bringing your hands together and interlacing your fingers ... release for 6 to 8 inchs of pump , makes for a great center cut in the center of your chest . I prefure to do this with cable as you can over extend and pass each hand making for a tighter flexion .
Machines also don't fit everyones body type ... thats why there are so many mixed reviews on machine work
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The Shadow
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......not ao good isda to stretch a muslce and then expect it to contract...most college and professional trainers are saving all the stretchingexercise and statics as the last thing for the day
btw - the "peaks" as you call them are useless...the contraction point for the pecs are not directly in form of you....do them unilaterally and you will see what I mean.
btw - the "peaks" as you call them are useless...the contraction point for the pecs are not directly in form of you....do them unilaterally and you will see what I mean.
well of course tris are used during dips. but if you widen your grip on the dip, you incorporate more of the pecs than if you go narrow you incorporate less of the pecs.Frisky said:
Needto I was being facetious when I suggested adding 5 or 6 movements because what you listed there seemed like overkill to me. but then again, Im a female and Im also not on the gasoline and I also dont like to waste my time and Im also old.
needtogetaas
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thats why I do both chest and tri's on the same day.Frisky said:
KillahBee
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Smurfy said:
I'm hearing lots of peeps come in here and talk about how bad pec deck is for your shldrs...benching is not exactly good for them. yet I don't hear peeps bitching about that. is it cause the Super Secret Society of Bodybuilders deems bench a "tough and strong and manly" exercise?
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Gambino
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KillahBee said:
bench shirt bor
bench press CAN be bad on the shoulders as can almost ANY lift. but compare the movement of the bench press to the movement of the pec deck and which movement seems unnatural?KillahBee said:
every exercise can carry the risk of injury. but i think when the pec deck is referred to as potentially dangerous for the shoulder, its due to the movement itself, not because the joint cant handle the weight.
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The Shadow
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KillahBee said:
Flat bench isnt the best in the world either but it has some lateral "give" to it where the linear swing on a pec dec doesnt...espically when the weight gets heavy
Its similar to the leg extension and the squat.
the extensions place a much higher sheer stress on the kness than do squats.
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The Shadow
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I flat bench for strength progress only
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Gambino
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KillahBee said:
when wore backwards, my peck deck max increases by 10%
I am going to perform my own scientific experiment this evening at the gym. I will attempt to injure/dislocate my shoulder joint on the bench press and the pec deck. we will see which exercise can do the most damage or which one can dislodge the joint in the fewest number of reps/
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The Shadow
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Smurfy said:
video it
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The Shadow
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Smurfy said:
Correct
string_bean00
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free weight flyes wreck pec deck anyday
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Gambino
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jnevin said:
nature of the beast...when your life is based upon your bicep size you're gonna feel insecure from time to time.
the only bb trade showeven i ever went to i was shocked.
grown men walking around the show in DAISY DUKES!! High riding cut off jean shorts! no shit, it was funny as hell but also embarrassing.
and they all were player hating every bigger dude that walked by, you could see the resentment.
their are exceptions to this rule on this board...needsize, galaxy, and wulf come to mind.
swole
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i don't use pec dec, but that's only because i opt for cable crossovers to warm up with before going into flat, incline and decline dumbbell bench, ending with wide-grip dips
i have also been working chest with biceps instead of the regular chest/tris thing, i can bring both bodyparts to absolute failure without them interfering with eachother
perk's just mad because he's got midget thumbs
i have also been working chest with biceps instead of the regular chest/tris thing, i can bring both bodyparts to absolute failure without them interfering with eachother
perk's just mad because he's got midget thumbs
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jenscats5
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The Shadow said:
*sigh* If I hear this one more time......
DannoMight
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I compete in bb and attend several events per year but I'm usually bazed and not feelin the haterade but it is there.... oh yes it is there.Ludendorf said:
Oh yeay I don't do the pec deck I'd rather do crossovers or db flyes. I usually rotate between the two week to week.
milo hobgoblin
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I use it for reverse flys for my posterior delts.. so Im like an anti faggot I guess
string_bean00
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KillahBee said:
if you bench elbows tucked I doubt you'd get shoulder problems from bench alone
elbows flared can def cause issues over time
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The Shadow
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jenscats5 said:
um...Jens.....thats actually true if you complete to within 20 degress of full extension
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jenscats5
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The Shadow said:
So it they are so bad, why the heck am I doing them??
bignate73
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mlong23 said:
the nature of the movement itself is stress to the shoulders. only marginally better would be a straight arm machine flye, but a "pec deck" with arms pinned back at to externally rotated "L's" are asking for issues.
so, yes...she doesnt have a good machine where she lifts.
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