PCT questions

[GarrisX]

im soon going to begin my cycle of primo, winstrol and proviron, and im looking for advice on pct. in my other post where i was considering doing this cycle, nelson mentioned that since none of these aromatize i could simply go natty for pct and go with unleashed and post cycle.

would these 2 be the best? what about dermacraine sustain?

also, when should i start taking whatever pct i choose and at what dose?

my cycle is this::

primo- 300 mg ew weeks 1-8
winstrol- 50 mg eod or 25 ed idk yet? weeks 1-6
proviron 50 mg ed weeks 5-9

also how frequently should i inject primo?


thanks in advance

 

[Varga]

PCT=3 weeks clomid at 50mg ED( it's light cycle but I'd still do PCT)
Injections 2x a week

Simple man, have fun!

 

[ricorico]

def use clomid.......i like to use ZMA off cycle as well

 

[Nelson Montana]

def use clomid.......i like to use ZMA off cycle as well

Definetely DO NOT use clomid. None of those compounds aromatize so the clomid would have nothing to compete with and you'll just have higher estrogen levels.

ZMA is just zinc and magnesium and completely useless for PC T.

"POST-CYCLE" and UNLEASHED would be great with that cycle though a little HCG afterwards wouldn't hurt either.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Garrisx,

Run Winstrol - stanozolol on the last part of the cycle from weeks 3-8… you want to drop all of your anabolic androgenic steroids levels at once to get ready for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Same with the proviron. BTW, if you can afford more Primobolan - methenolone - then get some more and run at least 500mg/week or up the Winstrol - stanozolol dose to 50mg/day

Clomid at 25mg/day would be acceptable, stacked with Dermacrine Sustain for a 4 week PCT. You would start this a week after your last Primo injection, to allow all the AAS’s to clear the system. My feeling on clomid or Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - is that they can help you recover your T levels a bit faster, but you should limit their use as much as possible as they are fairly toxic drugs that shouldn’t be used for the long-term.

Unleashed and Post Cycle could help too. You can use them with the above mentioned PCT.

-Pp

 

[trowsersnake98]

the best pct i ever did was 4 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day and 4 weeks of aromasin at 20mg/day. ive used it on a couple of nandrolone cycles and it brought me right back.

 

[JohnnyWest]

im soon going to begin my cycle of Primobolan - methenolone - , winstrol and proviron, and im looking for advice on PCT - post cycle therapy - . in my other post where i was considering doing this cycle, nelson mentioned that since none of these aromatize i could simply go natty for PCT - post cycle therapy - and go with unleashed and post cycle.

would these 2 be the best? what about dermacraine sustain?

also, when should i start taking whatever PCT - post cycle therapy - i choose and at what dose?

my cycle is this::

Primobolan - methenolone - - 300 mg ew weeks 1-8
winstrol- 50 mg eod or 25 ed idk yet? weeks 1-6
proviron 50 mg ed weeks 5-9

also how frequently should i inject Primobolan - methenolone - ?


thanks in advance

dont mess with your health man, theres a reason why people use pharmaceuticals like clomid and aromasin over supplements...they work way better

clomid at 50mg ED is not useless in pct because (for those who don't know this) estrogen is the prime hormone that causes your hpta to lower test production, so if you make your body think theres no estrogen (ie using clomid) your body will bounce back much quicker, combined with an AI like aromasin at 10mg Ed you won\t get estro rebound, lower to 10 EOD or, last resort, 10mg E3D if your libido goes out the window

 

[Primordial Performance]

dont mess with your health man, theres a reason why people use pharmaceuticals like clomid and aromasin over supplements...they work way better

clomid at 50mg ED is not useless in PCT - post cycle therapy - because (for those who don't know this) estrogen is the prime hormone that causes your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - to lower test production, so if you make your body think theres no estrogen (ie using clomid) your body will bounce back much quicker, combined with an aromatase inhibitor like aromasin at 10mg Ed you wont get estro rebound, lower to 10 EOD or, last resort, 10mg E3D if your libido goes out the window

There is no need for an aromatase inhibitor as strong as Aromasin with a cycle like this. He isn’t using any estrogenic compounds, so he wont have any estrogen production to suppress. His estrogen will already be rock bottom by the end of his cycle. Using Aromasin would likely just further hurt his sex drive.

Im not sure what your implying about “health”…. Since Clomid can be quite damaging to your health. As with most pharmaceuticals, their use often comes with a consequence whether it’s immediately noticeable or not.

-Pp

 

[worldclass]

Aromasin isn't going to hurt his sex drive. Aromasin would not be used for PCT because of any circulating estrogen from the steroids he's using. PCT begins WHEN THE STEROIDS ARE GONE so there is very little estrogen anytime you start PCT. So what difference does it make whether or not the steroids he used aromatize or not? It doesn't.
Using Aromasin will cause the HPTA to continue sending signals to the testes to produce testosterone even as the natural test production comes back online and would otherwise be weaker.
Normal use of Clomid is not dangerous to anyone's health. It's been used by thousands of men on this board for over a decade. No one has ever reported that it's use resulted in a life threatening or dangerous health condition. Please post where you're getting this information.
Using supplement in place of pharmaceuticals has it's place in a world where holistic remedies are used for everything from cancer prevention to heart disease. But I'll use drugs for my PCT thank you. And I recommend others do the same.

 

[ricorico]

Definetely DO NOT use clomid. None of those compounds aromatize so the clomid would have nothing to compete with and you'll just have higher estrogen levels.

ZMA is just zinc and magnesium and completely useless for PC T.

"POST-CYCLE" and UNLEASHED would be great with that cycle though a little HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - afterwards wouldn't hurt either.

your suggesting that clomid taken post cycle doesnt aid in increasing your natty test and bring your balls back??? And bbers are usually defecient in zinc and magniesum. ALso taking ZMA help aid in naturally hormone prduction and improves sleep quilaity.