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PCT Help Needed

Super Test 2004

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I am trying to clear up a few misconceptions.
I am going to be running a cycle in February.
Weeks 1-9 500 mg Sustanon
Weeks 1-9 300 mg Deca
Weeks 1-3 20-30mg D-bol ED

I am trying to figure out exactly when I should begin PCT and what to use. I have HCG, Clomid and Nolvadex on hand.
Can someone please help me plan my PCT. I need to know what weeks to take HCG, Clomid etc.

Karma will be given.
Thanks Bro's
 
clomid can start 3-4 weeks after last shot of sust,3.5 weeks sounds good,hcg same time you start clomid, nolva just use if you get gyno signs
 
I only use nolva for gyno,dont feel it helps with anything more than that,and yes week 12 is a good time to start clomid and hcg
 
For full recovery, try both the herbal route and drugs. For optimal recovery, base your pct on HCG, and use anti-estrogens as a supportive role. Give the protein factories herbal formulas a go as well, they really do have a good ingredient list. I will be running them together. I would personally use Nolvedex over Clomid. Nolvadex is the more purely anti-estrogenic of the two drugs, at least where the HPTA is concerned. You use a much lower dosage as well, 20mgs compared to 100 or 50mgs of clomid, not to mention for many people, Clomid is hell on earth. Clomid can potentially casue a rise in SHBG levels which may be cause for concern, as this might work to allow for comparably less free active testosterone compared to Nolvadex. Add creatine and g-plenish to help keep muscles pumped and save gains. ALso, you can run something fast acting like prop or dbol or proviron up until your PCT after your last shot of sust/deca if you want. Persoanlly I would stop the Deca slightly before the Sust, if you have never done it before you may have a harder time recovering. I would try something like this for best gains and full recovery...

Weeks 1-9 500 mg Sustanon
Weeks 1-7 300 mg Deca
Weeks 1-3 20-30mg D-bol ED

Wks10-12
Proviron: 25mgs/day
Dbol: 15mgs/day
Creatine: 10g/day

Wks12-14
HCG: 5000(1st wk), then 3500 (last 2 wks)
Nolva: 20mgs/day
Postcycle (protien factory)
Unleashed (protien factory)
Creatine: 10g/day
g-plenish

wk15-17
Nolva: 20mgs/day
Postcycle (protien factory)
Unleashed (protien factory)
Creatine: 10g/day
g-plenish


Continue with postcycle and unleashed until gone, and continue with creatine and g-plenish for 1 month. You should fully recover and hopefully not loose any mass. This PCT hits every angle, both herbal and HCG, and anti-e.

Mavy
 
Wow, thanks for your help Mavy. That is an awesome post.
I cannot believe how much I have learned off of you in the last 2 months or so. Thanks so much. As soon as I can give you Karma again, you can expect that I will.
 
No worries bro .. glad I could help! Karma to you (so you can give it back to me! hahahaha)

Cheers,
Mavy
 
I agree with Mavy for what a decent cycle costs it pays to do proper post recovery to solify every pound of muscle gained.
I recommend Clomid & Protein Factory's Post Recovery.


RADAR
 
True RADAR, without keeping your gains you are basically throwing your hard earned money and training in the garbage. I think that you have to work just as hard at PCT as you do in building the muscle. Its frustrating enough, being shut down, and when your muscle starts to dissapear, you will think ... why did i even bother.
 
Great post, Mavy!! And I definitely agree with quitting Deca before the rest... Deca seems to stay around forever...wrapped around your dick...
 
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