PCT for Newbie Test & Dbol Cycle

[hawaii50]

Hey. I just wanna make sure i got this right. I'm just doing a newb cycle w/ test and dbol for 8 weeks. Followed by Clomid only cycle. I can't get HCG. I'm sure that recovery will be good w/ clomid only.

Weeks 1-8: Test Cyp @ 400mgs/WK
Weeks 1-4: Dbol @ 40mgs/ED
Weeks 1-8: Liquidex @ 1mg/Day

Dbol, Liquidex, and Clomid are Ancillaries. Thats why the 1mg/day for liquidex.

PCT starting 2 weeks after last injection. I was thinking tried and true PCT of 300mgs Clomid Day 1, 100mgs 10 Days, and 50mgs 10 Days.

I don't see the need for Nolva, as i'm using liquidx. One more quick ? too. Do you start pct 2 weeks after the last actual injection day? or the last day of the last injection week?

Thanks for all your help. This site is full of awesome bros!

 

[hawaii50]

bump. am i just so damn good that noone has any critiques? lol

 

[Jenetic]

I'm not familiar with Clomid only PCT variations. If I had no choice, I would use 100 mgs ED for 3-4 weeks and then 50 mgs ED for an addtional 2 weeks.

Jenetic

 

[hawaii50]

I'm not familiar with Clomid only PCT variations. If I had no choice, I would use 100 mgs ED for 3-4 weeks and then 50 mgs ED for an addtional 2 weeks.

Jenetic

It was the in PCT faq. Ok, so what do you think my pct should be? nolva/clomid? I can't get hcg. AND NO, i don't want any pms for sources thanks you!

 

[Jenetic]

First off, I'm not a source nor do I care to be affiliated with any illegal activities of that nature including non legitimate liquid research chemicals which take advantage of innocent people.

Like I said before, I'm probably not the best person to talk to in regards to using SERMs only during PCT. I've never had any great sucess with that method. I've confirmed this various times based upon blood work versus the typical I think Im ok. It works for some, but it usually doesn't for the most part and it definitely won't with subsequent cycles and the natural aging process. You have a solid cycle for the most part and if your past experiences confirm your recovery ability, I wouldn't worry about it. I would highly recommend having blood work performed for your own peace of mind.

With that being said, 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for 6-8 weeks would be my recommendation. It's up to you if you want to start with more Clomid and taper your dosages. I'm not very knowledgable in this scenario. You already have the Arimidex covered.

Good Luck,

Jenetic

 

[hawaii50]

Thanks a lot Jenetic! I wasn't referring to you when i said no sources. lol. I meant all the people out there who like to flood peoples boxes when they think someone needs one. Anyways, I will get blood work done, and I think that just to be safe i will run w/ your suggestion of Nolva and Clomid. I think i will Start @ 300 day1 of Clomid, 6 days of 100mg and finish out 7 weeks of 50mg ED. AND run 20mg ED of Nolva during PCT.

Thanks alot. We'll see how well i do, and if things aren't what they're supposed too, i will definitely try HCG next time, as A lot of you're suggestions involve it.

Thanks, your help is invaluable!

 

[Jenetic]

I apologize if I sounded harsh.

HCG has always been standard practice and a staple ingredient of PCT. It was only recently, within the last couple of years, that it was considered to be dangerous and unecessary.

Jenetic

 

[hawaii50]

One more quick ? too. Do you start pct 2 weeks after the last actual injection day? or the last day of the last injection week?

This may sound dumb.. but I always just start 2 weeks after actual inject. day. Am I wrong? A bro at the gym said its 2 weeks after the actual Week of last inject.

 

[Jenetic]

When HCG is included, PCT starts one week after the last injection. This is differnt though and a good question. I would have to go with 2 weeks since lower concentrations of the exogenous hormones would exist and the Clomid/Nolvdex combination should be able to exert their effects without any complications.

Jenetic

 

[hawaii50]

ok, so i suppose my thought was correct. 2 weeks after actual injection. Thanks alot!