PCT Advice needed

[cobracock1979]

PCT/ HCG Advice needed - tren/ test cycle

Hi Bro's,

Im currnently 4 weeks into a Tren Enant/ Prop/ winny cycle. Im running 10med Aromasin and 50mg Prov ed.

I have HCG and Nolva (yeah I know, no nolva with Tren and Deca but I should be fine to use it once the Tren has cleared my system?)

I have 6 amps of HCH (1500ui), my main question is when should I start taking+stop taking HCG, and how much should I take each dose? Should I atart taking HCG on cycle or wait till pct?

Because they are 1500ui amps, would I be ok transfering the HCG into an old empty proprionate vial?

Help would really be appreciated, I start my PCT in 4 weeks.

 

[cobracock1979]

Hi Bro's,

Im currnently 4 weeks into a Tren/ Prop/ winny cycle. Im running 10med Aromasin and 50mg Prov ed.

I have HCG and Nolva (yeah I know, no nolva with Trebn and Deca but I should be fine to use it once the Tren has cleared my system?)

I have 6 amps of HCH (1500ui), my main question is when should I start taking+stop taking HCG, and how much should I take each dose? Do I need to dilute these vials in any way? Because they are 1500ui amps, would I be ok transfering the HCG into an old empty prop vial via beedle?

Help would really be appreciated, I start my PCT in 4 weeks.

PS I was thinging of running 1000ui three times a week IM until my last tren enant injection, then starting nolva 2 weeks later

 

[cobracock1979]

bump

 

[Go For Gains]

Hcg is best dosed at 500iu and/or 1000iu. 500 twice a week or once for 1000

IMO to best benefit from Hcg is to run it by the last 3-4 weeks of your steroid cycle. Do not run hcg if your getting signs of gyno, hcg will make it worst, so be carful.


HCG should not be used for PCT. I say this because there are better things to use for PCT

 

[Mavafanculo]

Re: PCT/ HCG Advice needed - tren/ test cycle

Hi Bro's,

Im currnently 4 weeks into a Tren Enant/ Prop/ winny cycle. Im running 10med Aromasin and 50mg Prov ed.

are you gyno prone? unless the test dose is VERY high, winny+aromasin+proviron is alot of anti-a/e working there
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I have HCG and Nolva (yeah I know, no nolva with Tren and Deca but I should be fine to use it once the Tren has cleared my system?)

should be fine
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I have 6 amps of HCH (1500ui), my main question is when should I start taking+stop taking HCG, and how much should I take each dose? Should I atart taking HCG on cycle or wait till pct?

alot of schools of thought on that. during entire cycle, at end going into pct, when starting pct. you'll have to read up and decide between the altyernatives. for me, when starting pct. 500 EOD for a week then 500 2x a week for a week. adjust upwards if your nuts dont come back.
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Because they are 1500ui amps, would I be ok transfering the HCG into an old empty proprionate vial?

yes

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Help would really be appreciated, I start my PCT in 4 weeks.

.. see above

 

[cobracock1979]

Re: PCT/ HCG Advice needed - tren/ test cycle

.. see above

Thanks.

What do other vets do after using tren?

Start HCG during cycle and run into PCT/ Start during cycle and end at PCT/ start with PCT?

Im not suffering any noticable atropy at this point...actually just had a feel...maybe a little atrophy!LOL

 

[nydj66]

I've had the best luck by extending my test cycle at least 2 weeks longer than the tren to aid recovery.

I also just use 1,500IU HCG E3D during PCT so I don't have to deal with any partials. At the end of a long cycle I don't really notice the 1,500IU shots but after a couple weeks I start to feel pumped like I was back on a test cycle. That's when I know my nuts have recovered.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Here is your homework.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html

This should help.

 

[cobracock1979]

Here is your homework.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html

This should help.

Chocolate,

Thanks man - what a great read. Im on tren enantate so start my pct 10 days after last inject (dont wanna add nolva till the tren is out). Looks easy enough - 1000iu HCG 3x week for 3 weeks, nolva 20mged for 6 weeks. Ill also run a low done aromasin with it as Im prone to gyno

Any comments bro's? I know there are a few differentviewpoints on the use of HCG

 

[DJ_UFO]

you can use HCG during cycle, typically @ 500 iu/week (250 twice a week) or use HCG after @ 500iu ed for 10 days. You need to determine what works better for you through experience.

 

[cobracock1979]

you can use HCG during cycle, typically @ 500 iu/week (250 twice a week) or use HCG after @ 500iu ed for 10 days. You need to determine what works better for you through experience.

Unless im experienceing atrophy I should be fine running it at rthe start of PCT - I only have 4500iu in total so I can run 500iu for 10 days with some aromasin?

 

[Go For Gains]

Unless im experienceing atrophy I should be fine running it at rthe start of PCT - I only have 4500iu in total so I can run 500iu for 10 days with some aromasin?

Your prone to gyno you say? Good Luck ....

might want to have letro on hand?

 

[cobracock1979]

Your prone to gyno you say? Good Luck ....

might want to have letro on hand?

Slightly prone yeah - thats why Ill be running Aromasin + proviron with it

 

[Go For Gains]

Aromasin is a great AI

 

[cobracock1979]

Aromasin is a great AI

+1

10mg ed keeps me really dry - its the future.

How would you run HCG Mighty? Before PCT/ during PCT/ Both?

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

+1

10mg ed keeps me really dry - its the future.

How would you run HCG Mighty? Before PCT/ during PCT/ Both?

I know you're not directly asking me but, I thought I would try to help you. If I were doing your cycle, or ANY for that matter I would run HCG DURING. My reasoning is that it just seems easier FOR ME to recover this way.

Think about it logically, if you do preventative maintenance on your car while you have it chances are it will run better and longer. If you wait until it has a problem it is going to be more difficult to fix.

I ALWAYS recovered better while taking HCG during.

 

[cobracock1979]

I know you're not directly asking me but, I thought I would try to help you. If I were doing your cycle, or ANY for that matter I would run HCG DURING. My reasoning is that it just seems easier FOR ME to recover this way.

Think about it logically, if you do preventative maintenance on your car while you have it chances are it will run better and longer. If you wait until it has a problem it is going to be more difficult to fix.

I ALWAYS recovered better while taking HCG during.

Thats what Im thinking - TPM (total Preventative Maintenance). Im 4 weeks into cycle so now is probably a good time to start.

How does this sound - 250iu twice a week on cycle until pct, then 500ui EOD first week of PCT. I only have 4500iu HCG plus I dont wanna run it too much into PCT as it will ihibit LH...sound good?

 

[Go For Gains]

+1

10mg ed keeps me really dry - its the future.

How would you run HCG Mighty? Before PCT/ during PCT/ Both?

HCG during cycle toward the end....as I said before not a fan of HCG in my PCT...

 

[Nelson Montana]

I know you're not directly asking me but, I thought I would try to help you. If I were doing your cycle, or ANY for that matter I would run HCG DURING. My reasoning is that it just seems easier FOR ME to recover this way.

Think about it logically, if you do preventative maintenance on your car while you have it chances are it will run better and longer. If you wait until it has a problem it is going to be more difficult to fix.

I ALWAYS recovered better while taking HCG during.

The other side of this coin is that the body builds a tolerance to repeated use. So what happens when you no longer respond to it?

I'm not saying your method doesn't work, but it may not be the best bet long term. Keeping cycles short and using moderate dosages negates the need for HCG throughout the cycle. Plus, adex helps maintain testicular volume to an extent as does UNLEASHED.

It's always best to "under-do" than over-do.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

The other side of this coin is that the body builds a tolerance to repeated use. So what happens when you no longer respond to it?

I'm not saying your method doesn't work, but it may not be the best bet long term. Keeping cycles short and using moderate dosages negates the need for HCG throughout the cycle. Plus, adex helps maintain testicular volume to an extent as does UNLEASHED.

It's always best to "under-do" than over-do.

I keep cycles to 8 weeks and never run over 1g per week, usually no more than 2 cycles per year.

I am not prone to gyno and have no need for an AI.

I also ALWAYS use your Unleashed and Post Cycle for PCT.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I keep cycles to 8 weeks and never run over 1g per week, usually no more than 2 cycles per year.

I am not prone to gyno and have no need for an AI.

I also ALWAYS use your Unleashed and Post Cycle for PCT.

That's the smart way to go. Some guys use lower dosages but they're on 10 months out of the year. If you only do two cycles a year, using the HCG like that won't be a problem. Good to hear the UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE are working for you too.