PCT..Add Clomid?

[nb01741]

23 y.o.
5'10"
190 lbs.
13% bf

I just finished by first Test E cycle about a month ago. I ran 500 mg/wk for 10 weeks. I ran Forma at 5 pumps a.m./p.m. from week 4 through PCT (still in PCT now). So now I'm 2 weeks into my PCT of Unleashed and Post Cycle, Forma, and DAA.
I feel like shit. I have no drive to workout or do anything. It fucking blows and I've started to see symptoms of gyno. I don't know what the deal is, but I need some advice on what I can do at this point to help me recover. I'm going to get bloods done next week and see where I'm lacking, etc. But I am thinking about adding 25/25/25/25 of clomid for 4 weeks after my Unleashed/Post Cycle. Is that a good idea or should I get another bottle of each and continue running the recommended dose with the clomid. My balls are still tiny, I should've at least used HCGenerate, and I will if y'all think it would help me, but I am open to anything you guys suggest. I know there is a ridiculous amount of knowledge on here and I really don't wanna get flamed for not doing something right. It was a mild cycle and I figured I would have no problem recovering.
But what do y'all think... Clomid alone for the next 4 weeks? or what.

By the way, on cycle I had crazy strength gains, and not very much weight gain. I started at 200 lbs., got up to about 208 bc I was trying to recomp. But now I am at 188-190, and I haven't been that low in a long ass time.

 

[broski87]

probably couldn't hurt. Maybe an AI to keep estrogen in check. Also possibly daa. I dno someone else with more experience correct me if im wrong.

 

[callmejay]

Absolutely. Don't wait until you finish the support supps. Just start taking clomid now. HCGenerate won't hurt.

Heard good things about ostarine during PCT but I'm not in a place to give you advice on that since I haven't used it yet.

 

[broski87]

I personally wouldn't touch ostarine during pct. I don't know much about it either but I hear mixed things about its being semi suppresive. I wouldn't wanna risk it. I could be wrong.

 

[GiantsFan77]

Blast some hcg along w clomid. Balls will drop, get bigger. First shot blast 2000 iu then run 1000 iu eod. Clomid 50/50/25/25. Just my advice

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[nb01741]

alright thanks you guys..I'm going to start clomid now. I have 2 weeks left of my Unleashed/Post Cycle so I will run it alongside those, and then clomid alone for the next 2 weeks after that.

 

[nickb86]

your still shut down and the eastrogen that aramatized is still there i would take hcgenerate immediatly and have a couple of blasts of hcg if possible 1000iu twice in a week and then continue with your supps.
You should prob get some letro and do a week of that to kill your estro.

Im not a qualified medic, so if your unsure i would seek mediacl advise asap.

clomid will only block the eastrogen on your breast tissues etc and will increase it in other areas of your body and as soon as you come off youll geta massive rebound mate. which is what nolvs deals with, however forma which is formastane is far better than nolva so id avoid both as nolvas not needed and the clomid may make it worse. kill the eastrogen with letro get your balls working and run the other supps along aswell and you should recover mate.
failing this and if you have to wait weeks for the stuff, get to a dr and they may prescribe the needed stuff and help you quicker.

you shouldve got everything b4 you did this but you already know that, i hope this is of some help and that you recover. good luck

 

[dylangemelli]

what was your cycle exactly?

i would also definitely run an hcg blast and this is why every cycle i lay out has hcg or hcgenerate used while on because it is necessary to help ensure a much easier pct and recovery... this is learning the hard way... i would have been running clomid from the start of pct as well... just a small dose along with everything else your running... i would still add it but you definitely need an hcg blast too...

 

[nb01741]

Thanks nickb and Dylan... Deff learning the hard way you're right. I'm going to get HCGen and run it till the bottle is gone. Probably run low dose Clomid along side of it.

Cycle:
(1-10)-- Test E (500mg/wk) pin Mon/Thurs 250
(4-16)-- Forma Stanozol 5 pumps a.m./p.m.

PCT:
(12-16)-- Unleashed/Post Cycle
(4-16)-- Forma as said above
(10-16) DAA

+ now 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 Clomid and HCGenerate as soon as they come in

 

[nickb86]

ok hope youre ok mate if you have to wait rush to the drs and tell em the truth, they will help you. dont wait if its gets severly worse mate. i strongly advise you get some HCG and have afew blasts of it mate if you cant get it and you start declining go to the drs and come clean. theyl may give you afew blasts, gd luck

 

[AG-Guys]

what was your cycle exactly?

i would also definitely run an hcg blast and this is why every cycle i lay out has hcg or hcgenerate used while on because it is necessary to help ensure a much easier pct and recovery... this is learning the hard way... i would have been running clomid from the start of pct as well... just a small dose along with everything else your running... i would still add it but you definitely need an hcg blast too...

I am in full agreement, he should be adding clomid during the whole PCT.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks nickb and Dylan... Deff learning the hard way you're right. I'm going to get HCGen and run it till the bottle is gone. Probably run low dose Clomid along side of it.

Cycle:
(1-10)-- Test E (500mg/wk) pin Mon/Thurs 250
(4-16)-- Forma Stanozol 5 pumps a.m./p.m.

PCT:
(12-16)-- Unleashed/Post Cycle
(4-16)-- Forma as said above
(10-16) DAA

+ now 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 Clomid and HCGenerate as soon as they come in

run clomid 25/25/25/25

 

[Jack steel]

I personally wouldn't touch ostarine during pct. I don't know much about it either but I hear mixed things about its being semi suppresive. I wouldn't wanna risk it. I could be wrong.

You are.

 

[nb01741]

Yeah I know I should've ran clomid from the beginning. But I've been seeing more and more things that promote a SERMless PCT. That is also probably insinuating that you are blasting HCG before or running HCGen throughout.
I'm going to take Dylan's advice and run Clomid ASAP 25/25/25/25 along with HCGenerate for the next 4 weeks.
Thanks, you guys are always a huge help

 

[dylangemelli]

Yeah I know I should've ran clomid from the beginning. But I've been seeing more and more things that promote a SERMless PCT. That is also probably insinuating that you are blasting HCG before or running HCGen throughout.
I'm going to take Dylan's advice and run Clomid ASAP 25/25/25/25 along with HCGenerate for the next 4 weeks.
Thanks, you guys are always a huge help

anytime bro.... good luck...