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SpawnsWorld

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Worked out my quads yesterday, sore as a b#$tch today. haha. Can I take some over the counter pain relievers if im taking an oral. t-bol40mg daily.
 
SpawnsWorld said:
Worked out my quads yesterday, sore as a b#$tch today. haha. Can I take some over the counter pain relievers if im taking an oral. t-bol40mg daily.

best thing to do--go do an eliptical for 15 minutes--get fluids in and waste products out---pain relievers and gear use are a bad combo.....and for the life of me i cannot remember why---prevents growth b/c....anyone? mava, needto, nelson, omega--drawing a blank here :confused:
 
soreness is part of the deal. You gonna want to take something tomorrow when you do chest? What about the next day for back? How about something for arms?

I find a little bit of activity helps get things going. Make sure you are drinking PLENTY of water, take some taurine, eat a banana. You could also try some arnica. They have it in pills and topical creams too. You'll be fine. :)
 
vicodin

im not giving bad advice .....most guys wont admit it .....most that train hard use it

espescially pros

otherwhise u would not be about to get ot of bed come mornin
 
no offense to Jon79, but please, read what he just said, then look at his avitar (guessing its him) + his "hard as nails nigga ..." quote..... please dont take vicodin...... it really is just part of the deal the whole being sore bit. you havent been training long enough or hard enough if you're getting sore, get into your routine and dont make excuses for missing days. you can do it, and your results will amaze you, especially if your using
 
vicodin doesn't even work. for some reason muscle soreness is immune to any narcotic i've ever tried to take, so i just bear with it like a man. the only thing vicodin is good for is to get you fucked up when you take two or three and snort a couple, its a recreational drug. its clinical use is negligent. i at least for me it is.
 
tempest2003 said:
no offense to Jon79, but please, read what he just said, then look at his avitar (guessing its him) + his "hard as nails nigga ..." quote..... please dont take vicodin...... it really is just part of the deal the whole being sore bit. you havent been training long enough or hard enough if you're getting sore, get into your routine and dont make excuses for missing days. you can do it, and your results will amaze you, especially if your using
bro i took myself from a wimp fuckcicking 168 to 2 fucking 15 and blew the bodyfat off and ended up at 208 11%

so i am not no bloated out bitch but i now what pain is.....

i just went throught 3 fucking months of fucking surgerey rcoverery so dont tell me what the fuk pain is


i lost most of my results.....


a vic here and there aint gonna hurt.......a fuckin tylonol will smile at ya and keep on commin
 
JLowe02 said:
vicodin doesn't even work. for some reason muscle soreness is immune to any narcotic i've ever tried to take, so i just bear with it like a man. the only thing vicodin is good for is to get you fucked up when you take two or three and snort a couple, its a recreational drug. its clinical use is negligent. i at least for me it is.
actually u read the fucking post

tylonoy aint rieally the best on the kidneys after fucking tbol

at least 1 vic will let u relax
 
eddymerckx said:
best thing to do--go do an eliptical for 15 minutes--get fluids in and waste products out---pain relievers and gear use are a bad combo.....and for the life of me i cannot remember why---prevents growth b/c....anyone? mava, needto, nelson, omega--drawing a blank here :confused:


Not near as experienced as them or exactly sure but I'd imagine it would have some negative effect on protein synthesis as it prevents your brain from sensing the muscle truama as well. My exercise psych professor is ACSM certified and mentioned that ACSM spoke of it durning several conventions. I believe the American Journal of Physiology and Metabolism was the one that it was posted in.

And I don't belive any painkiller should be used for an extended period of time, as even ibuprofen can seriously fuck you up. It gave me a bad ulcer when I was using them to keep the swelling down in my knee for a about a month and a half. Now honestly, do you think stronger stuff won't have stronger, more, or worse effects? Not worth it.
 
Jon79 said:
actually u read the fucking post

tylonoy aint rieally the best on the kidneys after fucking tbol

at least 1 vic will let u relax

i take them they will definitely give u motivation before a leg workout
 
Please don't resort to narcotics or benzos unless you're "dying." Stay away from God damn Vicodin and Xanax. They are both extremely habit forming. Do some Advil and excercise the muscles that are sore to flush them out. Also take some Glutamine and/or BCAA's and buckets of water.
 
For experience and knowledge, take ibuprofen that's your safest bet, stay away from acetamenifen (tylenol) which can be hard on your liver and kidneys......

Getting the muscle mass hurt and as the old timers said suck it up....and train...
 
Tylenol is metabolized through the liver. Ibuprofen, through the kidneys. Ibuprofen can cause ulcers and can eventually damage kidneys.

I train very heavy, high intensity 3 times a week, hitting each bodypart twice in 8 days. Every 6 weeks or so, I have to take a week off completely and then I work 2 weeks at about 60% of the weight/intensity before I go back into the very high intensity/heavy weight phase again.

If you want to be healthy and still be able to work out and look good 20, 30, 40 years down the road, follow my advice in my previous post. If you don't give a shit about your body and long term health, take all the drugs you want.
 
Jon79 said:


the problem with hardcore pain medication, is if you have an injury masked by a heavy pain med then I believe you can further injur yourself rather easily..

You taking creatine? anything else for faster recovery?
 
eddymerckx said:
best thing to do--go do an eliptical for 15 minutes--get fluids in and waste products out---pain relievers and gear use are a bad combo.....and for the life of me i cannot remember why---prevents growth b/c....anyone? mava, needto, nelson, omega--drawing a blank here :confused:

the cox-II inhibitors, aspirin, any anti-inflamatory substances were shown to reduce protein synthesis in the short term - the inflamatory response to muscle trauma is part of the re[pair/supercompensation cycle.

a recent study however has called this into question -- It duplicated the short-term decrease in mass gans vs controls, but the group taking the ant-inflamatory drug (dont recall which) showed greater gains in the long-term. the results are arguable because of the groups used (older athletes with serious pain issues) - it may have been a reult of changes in muscle metabolism/adaptation from the coupound or a result of just allowing consistent harder training over time.
 
drsketch said:
the problem with hardcore pain medication, is if you have an injury masked by a heavy pain med then I believe you can further injur yourself rather easily..

You taking creatine? anything else for faster recovery?

its not even that its the addiction
 
JLowe02 said:
vicodin doesn't even work. for some reason muscle soreness is immune to any narcotic i've ever tried to take, so i just bear with it like a man. the only thing vicodin is good for is to get you fucked up when you take two or three and snort a couple, its a recreational drug. its clinical use is negligent. i at least for me it is.


That's just the dumbest thing I have heard besides mainlining vicodin. Vicodin has compounds which hold the tylenol and hydrocodone together. What most people don't realize is that if you inject vicodin into the blood stream after crushing it up, the compounds that act as the bonding agent get stuck in your lungs, permenently, and over time, you will basically suffocate to death. If you crush the pills up and then snort them, the same thing can happen, plus, those compounds can get into your bloodstream and cause a stroke. There's a reason why the dea and govt. binds those drugs together, other than the fact that tylenol/ibuprofen enhances the opiates, it's to keep people from abusing it even worse.

This is another problem with the AAS community that seems to get glossed over quite often when someone spins out of control. Most news will report that the person has "roid rage" when in fact, he's an addict and he's spun out on recreational drugs and that's why he/she kills himself or someone else. Look at all of the body builders and pro wrestlers who died prematurely or killed someone. They were all strung out on pain killers or benzos (xanax).

The best advice is to stay away from all narcotics while training and cycles, but if you have to take something, take ibuprofen. It works rather well for the muscle pain.
 
I cant believe this thread. Im sore all the time, thats just how it is. In fact, I dig it when I feel sore, lets me know I am fit and working hard at maintaining it, unlike 80% of the people out there, all fat and bloated and dont give a fuck, sore because they sat on their ass all day. If I take anything, its advil, on a night when the moon is full and the planets are perfectly aligned.
 
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