P.Arnold, wlewillyn. & PH einstein's. 4ad & elavated estradiol

[pa1ad]

Re: Re: the ratio of estradiol to test should not coincide!????

Interesting thing to add - I would like to see people try oral 4-AD stacked with either 6-OXO or formestane. Maybe even try oral androstenedione with these. These supps will inhibit the aromatization of these prohormones and perhaps allow large dosages to be consumed with minimal fear of estrogen toxicity

 

[triguy]

#'s were just as a example, not true #'s

those werent actual bloodwork results.


I guess i would need to see at what level of estradiol is acceptable.

test 600 & estradiol 16 are real bloodlab #'s the other wasn't, jus saying, i presume a estradiol of 300 would not be acceptable.

My friend is doing:
2 weeks
25 mg proviron
10mg test gel then blood work (his physique he would of liked harder, so he will use this as a baseline on where he wants his estradiol)

then:
2 weeks
20 mg ED nolvadex then blood work (2 days into it a nice hardening effect OF COURSE, this is definately where to be estradiol wise, wont get results for 2 more weeks-beg jan)

then:
25mg proviron
10 mg test gel
400 mg? 6-oxo then blood work


P.S. no flames. He's an endurance athlete and strictly concerned with using androgens as a recovery aid. growth & recovery are 2 diffrent things

 

[kyle]

triguy
what PA was saying before was if test levels double then it is ok if estrogen levels double because there is still the same ratio between them

 

[pa1ad]

triguy
what PA was saying before was if test levels double then it is ok if estrogen levels double because there is still the same ratio between them

yeah. its next to impossible to increase test without increasing estrogen simultaneously unless you are taking an aromatase inhibitor.