overweight before a fight from test....

[justin8997]

hey im 23 yrs old. 5'9 before my cycle i was 163 and ive been on 60 mg anavar for 6 weeks daily, 2 weekly injections test C 200mg . i have balooned up to 176-178 and I will be fighting in the next couple weeks. my diet is very clean. just took out all grains and traded them for sweet potatoes. now my question for everyone is if I add 50mg a day of proviron will I lose this water weight I have optained and burn some of the bulk off in the next couple weeks? the training in the next couple weeks will be very intense as it always is before a fight and I wouldnt normally fret about this issue, but taking test is a different kind of weight gained . I know that anavar is good for weight loss and I know proviron is also good for that as well as losing water retention and enhancing libido... do you guys think this will work out? I need to be 165lbs to fight. and I am not dehydrating because we fight a couple hours after weighins...

 

[bigbassturd]

No steroid is for weight loss...

Stop everything and diet down. Do a full detox and you'll lose 6-10 pounds in a few days easily.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

hey im 23 yrs old. 5'9 before my cycle i was 163 and ive been on 60 mg anavar for 6 weeks daily, 2 weekly injections test C 200mg . i have balooned up to 176-178 and I will be fighting in the next couple weeks. my diet is very clean. just took out all grains and traded them for sweet potatoes. now my question for everyone is if I add 50mg a day of proviron will I lose this water weight I have optained and burn some of the bulk off in the next couple weeks? the training in the next couple weeks will be very intense as it always is before a fight and I wouldnt normally fret about this issue, but taking test is a different kind of weight gained . I know that anavar is good for weight loss and I know proviron is also good for that as well as losing water retention and enhancing libido... do you guys think this will work out? I need to be 165lbs to fight. and I am not dehydrating because we fight a couple hours after weighins...

AAS at 163?! Man this is not Gud!

No AAS is a weight loss as said by BB.

You need to learn how to train and eat.

Your bloated like a mofo bc sounds like your diet is off training and your not running an ai that's why your asking if I should run proviron

 

[bigbassturd]

What's your pct look like?

 

[Zinergy]

^ Not directly anyways, but a key is preventing catabolism. while almost eating nothing with minimal protein intake you can cut up like crazy while keeping your muscle.

You're throwing more gear into the equation and complicating things, all you have to do is dial in your diet.

 

[training700]

Bro that's what happens you put weight on. It sucks for weight classes. I instantly put on 3-5lbs. Just stop it all & start pct and should be okay.

You can still dehydrate a decent amount & be okay for a fight. Do it for wrestling tournaments all the time. I try only drop about 5 lbs last minute personally, just have to find what works for you.

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[justin8997]

look i know everyone is going to tell me im too small or too young for aas, but thats not what i want to hear.... I have a simple question Im asking you guys because you have the knowledge and I dont. i took the juice because I wanted an edge for training which it gave me , now I just need to get the bulk off from the aromatise from the test... now ive done my research that proviron is good to deflate and get rid of water retention, it increases aggression and libideo and paired with anavar it will be a fat burning machine? im going to take 40mg nolva for my pct with a test booster .

 

[training700]

Drop the test for sure and do what your planning on should be okay. Try drink more water and up your AI

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[bigbassturd]

look i know everyone is going to tell me im too small or too young for aas, but thats not what i want to hear.... I have a simple question Im asking you guys because you have the knowledge and I dont. i took the juice because I wanted an edge for training which it gave me , now I just need to get the bulk off from the aromatise from the test... now ive done my research that proviron is good to deflate and get rid of water retention, it increases aggression and libideo and paired with anavar it will be a fat burning machine? im going to take 40mg nolva for my pct with a test booster .

You haven't done research if that's the info you have and the pct you think will work kid. It doesn't matter what you want to hear, I'm not here to tell you that. I'm here to speak the truth, take it or leave it.

You just can't have AAS do all the work and expect results. No steroid will burn off weight if you don't have your diet spot on. Proviron and var are for hardening and maintaining strength and muscle size while in a caloric deficit.

You have no clue what you are.doing here bro, I would cycle off, start a REAL pct, detox, and get my diet right.

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[justin8997]

ok thanks training 700... thats what was one of the plans i had . buddy of mine told me to drop test 2 weeks before a fight. and bigbastard listen im not expecting the juice to do the work. i have trained so fucking hard my body has started breaking down on me and doesnt want to work as hard. i dont fucking eat mcdicks or any processed crap. i eat all fucking organic and free range eggs and growth hormone free meats wild fish.... dont tell me im not eating good food. i am just not doing to right things with my diet, i understand that, maybe give me some of your knowledge and we wont have this arguement . i dont expect the juice to lose the weihgt i expect the juice to support me when i train like an aminal to lose the weight. and what should i do for detox? and how can I do all this whithout fighting like a noodle?

 

[bigbassturd]

If you aren't taking an AI, that's number one. That alone will help shed some water.

Using AAS in a caloric deficit is kind of touchy. You have to know what your off cycle maintanance level is, and then cut that, usually starting with -500 cals and adjusting as needed. If you aren't cutting fat, cut some more cals, if you are going catabolic, up the cals. You have to find out your number, as we are all different.

As far as detox goes, there are tons of OTC detox supps that work in less than 48 hours to push all bloat, sodium, and anything held up in your gastro out, generally taking a few pounds off per day for two to three days.

How long have you been on the var? and what have you been taking for a liver support?

 

[justin8997]

been 6 weeks ive been o9n the var and test. and I am taking a mulit-stack that has a liver support in it with like milk thistle and hawthorne aznd some other stuff. ive changed my diet since the past week and I havent lost any weight yet, but i feel like I have and look it as well, so it has to be water still trapped in the muscles. as far as an ai goes wont the proviron do the same trick? and how fast will an ai work?

 

[Zyglamail]

look i know everyone is going to tell me im too small or too young for aas, but thats not what i want to hear.... I have a simple question Im asking you guys because you have the knowledge and I dont. i took the juice because I wanted an edge for training which it gave me , now I just need to get the bulk off from the aromatise from the test... now ive done my research that proviron is good to deflate and get rid of water retention, it increases aggression and libideo and paired with anavar it will be a fat burning machine? im going to take 40mg nolva for my pct with a test booster .

Why on earth did you run a cycle so close to a time when you had to make weight without knowing how it even affects you? Are you taking an anti-e at all?

YOU are the exact reason people get told not to cycle, because you jump in with out thinking things through. All this research you are attempting to do now should have been done way in advance.

The truth of the matter is your fucked. You need time, not more drugs. If you jump off juice now and start pumping yourself full of anti-e's, fat burners or what ever you are likely going to feel like shit and try and fight during a test crash.

You need to plan your cycles between fights with ample time to recover post cycle before a fight. Looks like your going to learn the hard way.

 

[stevesmi]

if you want athletic performance in your sport you should go with a very light amount of test and some peptides. you are running too much juice 60mg var with 400mg test a week is way too much.. that is more for a bodybuilder than someone who needs to be able to be nimble and fight

what i would do is drop your test to 125-150 a week tops. stop the var. run some light forma. if you start pct now with shitty nolva you will feel like crap during your fight which is gonna be horrible for you.

trying to lose all the weight you put on now ahead of a fight is gonna be an awful situation, i wouldn't do that.. if you HAVE TO make weight than you should grab some adex and run that daily to flush all that water. but its a bad situation.. trust me i used to be a powerlifter and had to make weight and lose a couple pounds the day of my meet and it really isn't a fun situation to be in putting yourself in that hole..

not to beat a dead horse but I am dumbfounded why you allowed yourself to get in this mess, the scale did not go up overnight.. if you saw your weight jumping like that you should of put a halt to it right away and not let it go.. thats just a young guys mistake

 

[JoeBlob]

I agree with Steve...he's right if you dropped everything you would certainly lose the weight, but you would feel like shit for your fight. Take his route and lower your Test, for sure, and add adex if absolutely necessary. But if you have to cut weight, it takes a process to figure out when you can and can't be ON...this is a learning experience, and now you will see how your body reacts to draining the water in your body. Take note of how your body responds to it, and use it to help you figure out how long you should end your cycle before your next fight. good luck

 

[justin8997]

my original plan was nov 30th id be in a tournament and so I had enough time because the final few weeks of training I would have catabolized enough of the bulk to make weight and be strong and fast still... but my coach my want me in a local fight in the next couple weeks... dont know yet for sure. but at the tournement I must make 165, at a club show I can fight 165 and still be 168-169 and not have to fight a bigger opponent. so if I get an ai in me asap will i have a better chance at making weight? I made some adjustments in my diet, following more of a paleolithical style diet and it has started to slim me down im not as bulky now, but I can tell that I still have alot of water retention around my waist and abdominal area. certain areas are starting to shape back to what they looked like at 162lbs (arms and legs) but my mid section is still bloated. I think I will manage just fine if I dont ahve to fight till nov 30th.... but someone jsut make it clear for me wheather or not I really need the AI or if the provirion will substute it?

 

[training700]

You need an ai it will help a lot. But can start the proviron now too help a little

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[peejae]

Thank god i fight at heavyweight. But yeah man you need to drop the test down. I take a trt dose of 200mg of test cyp a week. When i knock it down to a 100mg a wk i start shedding water like crazy. Another easy way to shed water after you have lowered your dose and use an ai is to trick your body that you are getting enough water. You can practice this by drinking like two gallons of water the day before the weigh in but dont drink anymore After that and dont eat. Your body will think its totally hydrated and start to shed excess water. There are tons if weight cutting techniques you just have to practice them and see what works for you. Practice the 2 gallon drinking. Some people shed at different times you might have to start two days before.hope it helps. There are easy ways to cut weight without it being brutal. Just dont allow yourself to balloon so far outta range.

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[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah this guy just needs to learn from his mistakes and get better.. everyone is different when it comes to what works best and he needs to try different things... i remember putting on a thick sweater and running around the gym and sweating out as much water as i could.. i made weight by .1 pounds but i was weak that day.

 

[peejae]

Yeah i always got my ass kicked in wrestling matches where i had to cut more then ten pounds. Not fun at all. I like that when i fight now you can weigh in the day before or the day of the fight, but if u master how to cut weight you can have a signifigant weight advantage come fight night.

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[mryar]

In addition to what's been said, try cutting out all sodium. Sodium retains water and cutting your intake might help you urinate off some of that excess water weight.