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Overtraining?/ YOU GOTTA READ THIS!

JKurz1 said:
How hard is it for you guys to take an off day....I mean absolutely nothing except go to work, sit in your office (presumably) eat all day long, then go home and veg out? Describe for me your off day, please!


^^^That pretty much sums up my off day, maybe a tan in the evening, but alot of time on the couch and on this damn computer
 
I used to train 5-6 days a week in high school. I didn't do any cardio, but I did train using workouts arnold did. Talk about overtraining like a mofo. I didn't get sick very often or feel bad, but I could not gain for like a year until I started reading Arhtur Jone's and Mike Mentzer's stuff. Then I went overboard with that and realized you can undertrain. Now I'm training 4 days a week each bodypart once a week, but some over lap on the chest, delts and triceps.

Off days are great. You have to get it into your head that that is when you recover and GROW.

Now that I think about it I was "kinda" like you Jkurz1 in high school as far as over training although I didn't watch my diet much except eat alot.

You should take like 2 weeks off from any lifting and cardio and sleep 10 hours every day, then hit up your weights and take it easy on the cardio compared to the intensity, frequency and amount you do now.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
^^^That pretty much sums up my off day, maybe a tan in the evening, but alot of time on the couch and on this damn computer

I would skip the tan...it is a little draining on your body
 
JKurz1 said:
To think I've been through months of blood work for low test and low WBC....then I stumble across this........me to a f-ing tee...........

http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/overtraining.html

I used to be paranoid about over-training and was into the Mentzer heavy duty stuff.

But then I saw Lee Priest say that talk of over-training was 'excuses for wimps' and read Arnie's encyclopedia- every body part intensely thrashed out 3 times a week!

Maybe in short bursts your body can handle huge volume. I switched from heavy duty to volume intensity and seemed to benefit. When I go stale now I tend to switch back and forth.
 
Even if you don't get sore do you think you can overtrain? I can train the same muscle 2 times a week on gear with virtually no soreness.
 
massatronic said:
I used to be paranoid about over-training and was into the Mentzer heavy duty stuff.

But then I saw Lee Priest say that talk of over-training was 'excuses for wimps' and read Arnie's encyclopedia- every body part intensely thrashed out 3 times a week!

Maybe in short bursts your body can handle huge volume. I switched from heavy duty to volume intensity and seemed to benefit. When I go stale now I tend to switch back and forth.
sorry to say, but overtraining IS FOR REAL.....fuck what the pros say and quit reading those damn mags.......

You guys eat the exact same when off or even more??? Thats the hardest part!!
 
JKurz1 said:
sorry to say, but overtraining IS FOR REAL.....fuck what the pros say and quit reading those damn mags.......

You guys eat the exact same when off or even more??? Thats the hardest part!!

I agree, I'm just saying that under training is too! Thats what I'd been doing.
 
All good...I'm figuring out (slowly) that breaking up my cardio and training high intensity, with low volume 6 days a week is optimal for me.........45 min max in the gym.......
 
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