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Orbit Test Results are in..................

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Orbit - Test results are in.....

I haven't seen anyone post this yet but tests results are in on Orbit 10mg var.

IT TESTED OUT TO BE 23.4 mg/capsule

That's right folks, Orbit 10mg var tested out to fucking 23.4mg per capsule. Holy shit a shingle!
 
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NO WAYYYYYYY

damn, now if only i could get my hands on those.............................yummy, id love to do 2 of those capsules a day and get close to 50mgs of var daily, so for a good 50 day cycle i would only need 100 of those.

Damn that sounds too good to be true...........i'll look around maybe some pop up and thanx for the info JA you are one usefull bro.
 
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We thought there had to be a mix up since the 10mg var was being tested along with the 25mg var from Orbit but the lab verified it twice that these results correlated specifically to Orbit's 10mg capsules! We'll post the lab report in a couple of days. Orbit's 25mg var is also being tested and results on that should be back very soon.
 
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georgie24 said:
wait im confused now. so your saying there 10 mg tabs are 25 mg?
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I'm saying that their 10mg tabs tested out to be 23.4mgs per tab. Orbit first came out with 10mg tabs and then replaced it with 25mg tabs. We tested the 10mg tabs.
 
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Juice Authority said:
I'm saying that their 10mg tabs tested out to be 23.4mgs per tab. Orbit first came out with 10mg tabs and then replaced it with 25mg tabs. We tested the 10mg tabs.
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so the 10mg are no longer made?

RADAR
 
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I'm sure the woman who are taking the 10mgs tabs don't find these results so pleasing.

How could you be that off? More than double the dosage??

-Ingram
 
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Ingram said:
I'm sure the woman who are taking the 10mgs tabs don't find these results so pleasing.

How could you be that off? More than double the dosage??

-Ingram
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Who knows. That's pretty far off the mark to the good.
 
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RADAR said:
so the 10mg are no longer made?

RADAR
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I think they sell both but I'm not sure since I have an old list.
 
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not to piss on a parade that im very happy to be seeing...but what if it was winny and at doulble the dose you could be killing your liver without even knowing...reality sucks
 
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Who the hell is doing the math over at Orbit??? That has to be wrong...maybe some 25mg caps got mixed in the with the 10mgs at the lab before being bottled or something cuz that is just too fucked. Like georgie24 said what if that was the winny, dbol or drol that was overdosed like that, wow. Be very interesting too see the results for the 25's.
 
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on offense, but something isnt right..
why would a lab overdose their tabs by 150%??

in science, there's a margin of error of about 5-10% which is acceptable..
even 15% at times.. but 150%?????
 
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satchboogie said:
on offense, but something isnt right..
why would a lab overdose their tabs by 150%??

in science, there's a margin of error of about 5-10% which is acceptable..
even 15% at times.. but 150%?????
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Am with Satch....there must be some mess up in the test.
 
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Del_Piero said:
Am with Satch....there must be some mess up in the test.
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i agree but...but i dont think there is anything wrong with the test, i think these one are the 25 mg tabs....there is no way they overdoses their anavar that much....and if they did that brings only suspision to my mind...
 
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im thinking they sent a 25 mg capsule in....rememebr this was a "private" party testing orbit had nothing to do with it. it all points at the guy who bought them to begin with...did he get the wrong order or did he send in the wrong tabs???
 
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JA don't you think you have been possiblity fooled ?

Obviously if I had owned a lab, and have been following elitefitness threads I would
notice that some pretty well known figures here are interested in testing out my gear.
I would deliberatly overdose my anavar like crazy for a month or so. Or if knew the guy
who's about to test it, I would just overdose his single order. Then the lab test
will show crazy numbers, EVERYONE will go crazy for my gear. A very good business
practise that I would have done myself if I owned a private lab.
 
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junk hits up on the money although i'm in no way implyin orbit has any bad intentions.

its threads like these that actually give a lab a bad rep as surely 150% dicprenacy in the dosing doesnt make em look good!!
 
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ill chime in with my .02 as well and say i think the lab results are mixed up..thanks for the update JA
 
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Here is the conversation I had with the lab, unless they are straight out lying to me, I do believe the results are legit. Im the last one to say that too because when somethings hard to swallow I always suspect stupidity..

Read it from the bottom up as it is cut and pasted from an email:

Lab:
You sent us "Orbit Labs Anavar," Lot# OXA01790. We still have the
container, and it does say 10 mg. Nevertheless, they tested out at 23.4
mg/capsule. However, it was not a sealed bottle, so we can't make any
claims regarding the chain of custody. Yes, it is odd that a company would
mess up their pills by overdosing. Usually, as I said before, they under
dose. I just reported results to a gentlemen wherein his 5 mg. oxandrolone
tablets contained less that 1 mg each.

Me:
Actually it is from the same suplier, the board that we are both members
of decided to test both the 10mg and 25mg dosages.

Do you by any chance have the Lot# on the package I sent you. I am sorry
if I seem a little unsure about the results, it just that it seems a
little shady that a company would mess up their dosing this bad, especially
overdosing..

Lab:
>I don't think we would have gotten the test results mixed up. When
>a sample
>comes in, we isolate it in a package with an ID on it, and each
>sample is
>weighed and run separately. If you want to give us the name of
>your friend,
>we can check it out. Maybe your supplier is confused about what
>he or she
>is selling. Anyway, if it's a bid deal, let us know. Pearl
>


Me:
>
>The reason I was asking is because a friend of mine sent the same
>capsules
>in the 25mg Oxandralone dosage. I thought maybee the test results
>might
>have been mixed up.
>

Lab:
>On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:36:28 -0700 SRCS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I apologize for our miscommunication. My understanding is that
>you
>>sent us
>>five 10 mg capsules. The actual capsule weight is 150 mg, which
>>are each
>>supposed to contain 10 mg of oxandrolone. Our tests indicate that
>>you are
>>actually getting 23.4 mg/capsule of oxandrolone instead of 10 mg/capsule.
>>As many of the oxandrolone capsules we test don't have anything
>>at all in
>>them, you seem to be getting a good deal.
>>
>>Pearl Meibos
>>

Me:
>>
>>Im sorry maybee I misunderstood the intial response.
>>I had asked you for the status of the test, and someone from youre
>>company
>>replied with:
>>
>>>>Sorry about your wait. We have your results: the capsules contain
>>>>156 mg/g
>>>>of oxandrolone or 23.4 mg/capsule. We are putting together the
>>>>actual
>>>>reports today and Monday. We will e-mail you a copy when we
>get
>>>>it done.
>>>>
>>
>>In the above reply, are you saying that the 10mg capsules contained
>>25mg
>>of Oxandralone?
>>

Lab:
>>>Yes, you sent us five 10 mg. capsules.
>>>
>>>Pearl Meibos
>>>

Me:
>>>
>>>I sent you the 10mg capsules no?
>>>

Lab:
>>>>Gus,
>>>>
>>>>Sorry about your wait. We have your results: the capsules contain
>>>>156 mg/g
>>>>of oxandrolone or 23.4 mg/capsule. We are putting together the
>>>>actual
>>>>reports today and Monday. We will e-mail you a copy when we
>get
>>>>it done.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks, Pearl Meibos

Me:
>>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I had sent out a package for testing to youre lab 2 weeks ago
>>and
>>>>I was
>>>>wondering what the status on the results were.
>>>>
>>>>Here is my information:
>>>>Package Contents: Oxandralone
>>>>Name: **** ****
>>>>email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Thank you.


I guess human error is still possible but like I said, unless they are doing it on purpose, or intentionallly lying to me, these results are legit.
 
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i got the same lot# i'm going to be one happy mofo if the testas ststed are true!!!
 
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wow! that's awesome! i cant wait to see the 25mg lab results. hopefully they come out around 40mg a capsule lol.
 
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I'm with ingram, if you are a woman then an overdose like that could lead to some very serious sides, not too bad if you are a guy though
 
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satchboogie said:
junk hits up on the money although i'm in no way implyin orbit has any bad intentions.

its threads like these that actually give a lab a bad rep as surely 150% dicprenacy in the dosing doesnt make em look good!!
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Yep...a huge underdose on the Eq and an overdose on the Var spell incompitence.
 
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Mavy and JA set the whole thing up, very good organization.

I had to dish out 40$ out of my own pocket cause some people bailed. But with the amount of anavar I have for the price I got it , I really cant be pissed. Cool aid smile all the way ;) ;) ;)

Also thanks for the contributions from the following guys:

syberman
ja
psychedout
georgie24
mavy


Much appreciated....
 
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Ingram said:
I'm sure the woman who are taking the 10mgs tabs don't find these results so pleasing.

How could you be that off? More than double the dosage??

-Ingram
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it's called marketing. don't think for one minute that this guy doesn't have a vested interest in this product. do you have the phone number for this lab so a third party can independantly verify the results?
 
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this has to be one of the worst possible idea to market a new product.
sorry.
 
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heregothere said:
it's called marketing. don't think for one minute that this guy doesn't have a vested interest in this product. do you have the phone number for this lab so a third party can independantly verify the results?
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http://www.srcslab.com/

Contact Info::
Phone: (801) 277-8228
Fax: (801) 277-7207
Email: [email protected]

Address: 2180 E. 4500
South Suite #125
Holladay, UT 84117
 
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The 25mg tabs tests will be in shortly and we will see what happens there!
 
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Before you all start the gang up thing again. This was a legitimate test. Slash had purchased his var a while back, and offered it to be tested. No lab or source new about it. Again, many of us pitched in to make it cheaper. You try to to a good thing and you get slammed by everyone Slash. From now on any testing I personally do, results will be kept private for myself, and any good bros I know who may be interested. I would suggest whoever is testing the 25mg, keep it to yourself and the testers. Its just not worth it for the drama you go through on the boards.

Anyways, I agree, this is not nessicarily a good thing. Even for a dude, I would rather not be taking 150% more var If I was planning on taking 60mg/day. Sure its good for slash, becuase he knows, but it very well could be dangerous if you didnt. Also, what if the 25mg, test out to be the same. Thats not fair for people who bought the 25mg for more money than the 10mg, and they are getting jsut as much anavar. Hitting on the money is the way to go withing a range. Going waay over or waay under is not the way to go. Thats my thoughts on all of this. And its also the last group test I go in on. Thanks Slash for testing this though, and donating the sample, and paying more than your share for the test, greatly appreciated.

Mavy
 
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satchboogie said:
junk hits up on the money although i'm in no way implyin orbit has any bad intentions.

its threads like these that actually give a lab a bad rep as surely 150% dicprenacy in the dosing doesnt make em look good!!
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Satch -

You're absolutely right. Being that far off the mark good or bad is not a good thing. When I saw the results I was naturally thinking how happy I'd be to have overdosed var but you and other brings up a very good point. Here's the deal though, there was no way for Orbit to know we were going to be a testing their var. We tested their 250mg EQ and it came back at 191mg/ml, which didn't make Orbit look very good. Shortly after that we organized another test on their 10mg Var. If Orbit was intentionally overdosing their var they would have had to overdose every single batch they sent out since they had no idea which batch we were going to test.
 
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i hear ya 100% bro..

if indeed those tabs were meant to be 10mg and actually came out around 23 i'd say there's a huge problem.
 
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slash747 said:
Mavy and JA set the whole thing up, very good organization.

I had to dish out 40$ out of my own pocket cause some people bailed. But with the amount of anavar I have for the price I got it , I really cant be pissed. Cool aid smile all the way ;) ;) ;)

Also thanks for the contributions from the following guys:

syberman
ja
psychedout
georgie24
mavy


Much appreciated....
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Uh, can I get some love to for contributing $ for the test?
 
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Mavy said:
Before you all start the gang up thing again. This was a legitimate test. Slash had purchased his var a while back, and offered it to be tested. No lab or source new about it. Again, many of us pitched in to make it cheaper. You try to to a good thing and you get slammed by everyone Slash. From now on any testing I personally do, results will be kept private for myself, and any good bros I know who may be interested. I would suggest whoever is testing the 25mg, keep it to yourself and the testers. Its just not worth it for the drama you go through on the boards.

Anyways, I agree, this is not nessicarily a good thing. Even for a dude, I would rather not be taking 150% more var If I was planning on taking 60mg/day. Sure its good for slash, becuase he knows, but it very well could be dangerous if you didnt. Also, what if the 25mg, test out to be the same. Thats not fair for people who bought the 25mg for more money than the 10mg, and they are getting jsut as much anavar. Hitting on the money is the way to go withing a range. Going waay over or waay under is not the way to go. Thats my thoughts on all of this. And its also the last group test I go in on. Thanks Slash for testing this though, and donating the sample, and paying more than your share for the test, greatly appreciated.

Mavy
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I appreciate the efforts Mavy..You're right you try to do something good and some people bash you..I may be somewhat sceptical, but you and slash and everyone else that chipped in for the test TY..k for you guys
 
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Mavy said:
Before you all start the gang up thing again. This was a legitimate test. Slash had purchased his var a while back, and offered it to be tested. No lab or source new about it. Again, many of us pitched in to make it cheaper. You try to to a good thing and you get slammed by everyone Slash. From now on any testing I personally do, results will be kept private for myself, and any good bros I know who may be interested. I would suggest whoever is testing the 25mg, keep it to yourself and the testers. Its just not worth it for the drama you go through on the boards.

Anyways, I agree, this is not nessicarily a good thing. Even for a dude, I would rather not be taking 150% more var If I was planning on taking 60mg/day. Sure its good for slash, becuase he knows, but it very well could be dangerous if you didnt. Also, what if the 25mg, test out to be the same. Thats not fair for people who bought the 25mg for more money than the 10mg, and they are getting jsut as much anavar. Hitting on the money is the way to go withing a range. Going waay over or waay under is not the way to go. Thats my thoughts on all of this. And its also the last group test I go in on. Thanks Slash for testing this though, and donating the sample, and paying more than your share for the test, greatly appreciated.

Mavy
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Ditto.
 
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If the caps were meant to be 10mg and no error by the lab i would say this supplier has some serious quality control issued. If this is correct with the whole product range then the supplier will either be out of business soon with that amount being given away free OR one of their producvts will seriously damage someones health.

Not good IMHO

props to the guys who had the test done but NOT a good result IMHO

Wrongun!
 
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Hahaha.. thanks beast AND babbabeau! hahaha. I agree, something seems a little off. But people dont always realise that at least someone is trying to find this kinda stuff out. The tests may be a little bit strange, but its a lot more info than we had before anyone decided to test this stuff. Its when you start getting e-mail with threats or calling you a liar, and stuff is what makes a good thing a bad thing. Believe me on that one. Slash dosent decide what the results will be, but at least he is eager to have it tested to find out. Everyone really should be thankful for people taking some initiative and testing this kinda stuff, it sheds light on the prods that we are all using or are planning on using, and its what makes these boards a good place to hang out at. The more knowledge you have about prods and companies, the better you can make your own decisions, on what you want to put in your body. Which is a serious decision in my books.
 
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Wrongun said:
If the caps were meant to be 10mg and no error by the lab i would say this supplier has some serious quality control issued. If this is correct with the whole product range then the supplier will either be out of business soon with that amount being given away free OR one of their producvts will seriously damage someones health.

Not good IMHO

props to the guys who had the test done but NOT a good result IMHO

Wrongun!
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I agree completely. I would rather see it test out on the money (give or take a few mg, preferrably over), but not by that much. The only person who should really be happy to see that is slash. No one else knows about their batch. I agree, that could also be a dangerous thing as well, if he had not tested it to know.
 
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babbabuee said:
Uh, can I get some love to for contributing $ for the test?
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Sorry babbabuee, You get some props and some karma for me leaving you out.
 
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at least this turned out to be a good discussion and not some flame war or pissing match..aloy of good points where said here. i wouldnt call it "bashing" either
 
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Mavy said:
Hahaha.. thanks beast AND babbabeau! hahaha. I agree, something seems a little off. But people dont always realise that at least someone is trying to find this kinda stuff out. The tests may be a little bit strange, but its a lot more info than we had before anyone decided to test this stuff. Its when you start getting e-mail with threats or calling you a liar, and stuff is what makes a good thing a bad thing. Believe me on that one. Slash dosent decide what the results will be, but at least he is eager to have it tested to find out. Everyone really should be thankful for people taking some initiative and testing this kinda stuff, it sheds light on the prods that we are all using or are planning on using, and its what makes these boards a good place to hang out at. The more knowledge you have about prods and companies, the better you can make your own decisions, on what you want to put in your body. Which is a serious decision in my books.
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Unfortunately this has backfired. In my zeal to clear Orbit's name after the last test of their EQ I overlooked soem very valid points. This actually makes them look worse as some Bros have already pointed out. As one Bro on Meso pointed out:

This is foolish to think this is good.
-If its intentional then its a way to give someone a false impression of how good the product is. I dont like that kind of business. Its bullshit.

-If its not intentional than one batch can be grossly overdosed or underdosed.

This could be preceived as a way to boost a new brand of AAS. Overdose them at first because you know bros are going to have it tested.
Everyone gets all excited and starts ordering. You get a large customer base, then dose them back down.

All I know is we tried and the rest of you owe Slash some karma and some bumps for being one that one that took the initiative to have it tested in the first place.
 
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Honestly, I think it would be a shame if things got so bad out here that we couldnt share resultds with other members. The results were done for 2 reasons on my part.

1) I wanted to make sure what I had after the results of the first 2 tests. So that I wasnt getting Dbol or something
2) I wanted to contribute something to a board, a community, that I feel is a big help to me and I want to better. Sounds gay I know, but I mean it.

They were not done to flame a company, or advertise how good they are. They were done for generall information. So next time I buy a cycle I can view the pros and cons for this company, and instead of just hoping the product is what is says it is, now at least have a basis to make my decision.

Now there might be doubts in people's heads whether the lab has affiliations with the Manufacturer, well, then get another test. I would personally love to see how other Lots tested.

Im willing to contribute to future tests of any products.
 
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maybe we can do the test again...i was going to pitch in the first go round, but some personal stuff came up and i didnt have the time for it. anyways, im ordering both the 10mg and 25mg myself, if more people want to chip in ill get both tested and we can see if this was a bad batch or if its consistant. I should be recieving it by next week. If we get the same results a second time, we can be sure that something is seriously wrong with their quality control and it wasnt just an extremely overdosed batch.
 
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its good that people are having these tests done, props to you guys for that
 
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mavy,can you suggest a lab testing facility in canada and i will conduct my own test.i just want to settle this for my own satisfaction once in for all.it seems there is not a conclusive answer about the var sinerio.cheers all.
 
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good job elite. my hat goes off to you guys for remaining civilized like satch said. i think when it gets out of hand mods should step in right away and take action. this board needs some direction at times and now discussions like this are giving elite back its glow. ive noticed this board can go to complete shit in a heart beat.

again good job guys
 
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This is what happened on the fake btgs!!

around 25mg of a substance that only LOOKS like var!

BEWARE!!
 
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This is what happened on the fake btgs!!

2.5mg tabs tested to be around 25mg of a substance that only LOOKS like var!

i'm still suspicoius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Uh-oh..................... wheres Ulter when you need him. We need his brain.
 
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1. ask ulter what the name of this "var-like" compound is

2. go back to the company that tested the orbit var, and specifically ask if the "var-like" compound is present in the tabs (because we would now know the name from ulter)
 
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I'm 100% glad I contributed and would do so again in the future. As for orbit, well, like everyone else I am suspicious of their quality control. bump to double check on that "var-like" compound and see if that's what showed up this time.
thanks for the karma slash, back at ya.
 
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alwayson the lab test was made by a respected lab, they test for the substance not for the look, so I do turst the lab test itself.

By the way, with papervar I was taking 80mg of var a day. So I guess that if I took
the orbit I would be getting above 185mg of var a day without knowing it. And since I'm taking var for 8-12 weeks, 185mg of var is certainly a VERY bad idea!! Sometimes overdosing can be more harmful than underdosing. Especiallly for guys that thinks he's actually consuming just 80mg of var but it's more than double. Also, keep in mind, you cannot assume every batch of orbit var is 23mg of var. so it's not like everyone can now pop just 2-3 pills, he may be actually getting this time just 10mg of even less. This is always the case with ug labs, so it's NOT just orbit. In fact I think they are more legit than other ug labs.
 
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Wrongun said:
If the caps were meant to be 10mg and no error by the lab i would say this supplier has some serious quality control issued. If this is correct with the whole product range then the supplier will either be out of business soon with that amount being given away free OR one of their producvts will seriously damage someones health.

Not good IMHO

props to the guys who had the test done but NOT a good result IMHO

Wrongun!
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No chance there is 23.4mg of oxandrolone in a 150mg capsule.
Its is most likely a combination of 2 very similar compounds: Nilevar and oxandrolone.
 
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AlwaysOn said:
1. ask ulter what the name of this "var-like" compound is

2. go back to the company that tested the orbit var, and specifically ask if the "var-like" compound is present in the tabs (because we would now know the name from ulter)
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It's called Nilevar.

Very similar to Anavar.
 
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i just copied and pasted this info from anabolicreview.com

This is an oral steroid which is a derivative of nortesterone. It is interesting that Nilevar is produced by the same manufacturer who also introduced the well-known Anavar to the U.S. market. Nilevar, which was already sold in American pharmacies in 1956, was a precursor of Anavar which was introduced to the market in 1964 by Searle USA. It has since been voluntarily removed from the mar-ket. Thus it is not surprising that Nilevar has certain similarities to Anavar or Oxandrolone. 11ke Oxandrolone it has only a weak ana-bolic effect, whereas the androgenic component is distinctly stron-ger. Nilevar, even in low dosages, aromatizes easily so that the in-creased estrogen level could become a problem. The main effect of Nilevar, in part, is a considerable strength gain. This gain often goes hand in hand with a distinct water retention, especially if high dosages are taken, which also explains the gain in body weight of its users. The manufacturer of the French and Swiss Nilevar recom-mends a daily dose of 10-30 mg. Athletes using Nilevar-usually powerlifters-take 30-40 mg/day, divided into two to three equal dosages. it is mostly used for a short period, a maximum of 4-6 weeks. Women should not take Nilevar since it can cause considerable virilization symptoms. Nilevar is I 7-alpha alkylated and there-fore potentially hepatoxic which put-, stress on the liver. Other pos-sible side effects are acne, gynecomastia, aggressiveness, headaches, gastrointestinal pain, reduced production of the body's own hor-mones and high blood pressure. A package of thirty 10 mg tablets costs approx. $4 in the pharmacy. Because of its price it is an interesting compound, yet Nilevar is rarely used by bodybuilders in Europe since other steroids are readily available.
 
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Yep, Nilevar is a cheaper form of anavar by far. So in essence one could "overdose" their anavar product with Nilevar for a lower cost to the lab since the powder to make Nilevar is considerably cheaper than Var powder. It's like the difference between cocaine and procaine, which is a cutting agent used for diluting cocaine.
 
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hey guys i've been informed by a bros on canadian juice monsters that he is using the orbit var mad mass is his name in case you know the dude he says the var is absolutely working for him so at least it does work besides all the current allogations .
 
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AlwaysOn said:
This is what happened on the fake btgs!!

2.5mg tabs tested to be around 25mg of a substance that only LOOKS like var!

i'm still suspicoius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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how can i forget that scandal? good point bro thanks foe brining that back to light!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the anxiety of this test is killing me... :)
 
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Z said:
No chance there is 23.4mg of oxandrolone in a 150mg capsule.
Its is most likely a combination of 2 very similar compounds: Nilevar and oxandrolone.
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Agreed but still not good IMHO

Wrongun!
 
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Ingram said:
I'm sure the woman who are taking the 10mgs tabs don't find these results so pleasing.

How could you be that off? More than double the dosage??

-Ingram
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I am on 10 mg I am very doubtful it is actually 234mg my sides are very minimal get a few zits and a bit agressive that is it.
 
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Z said:
It's called Nilevar.

Very similar to Anavar.
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did ulter's lab specifically say that its nilevar?

I didn't see it in that thread.

furthermore, nilevar is supposed to have some effect. Ulter's fake var had NO effect.

conclusion: I don't think ulter orignal contaminant was nilevar.

secondary conclusion: something f*cked up is going on
 
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junk said:
alwayson the lab test was made by a respected lab, they test for the substance not for the look, so I do turst the lab test itself.
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I've have plenty of chemistry experience. make sure the lab gives the results to a person who is not familiar with the project, let that person draw up the exact molecule blindly from the test results. That molecule should be var of course.

But if you tell someone, its supposed var beforehand (I hope you didn't do this) then they can just say, yep thats var, overlooking a minor detail.

In the future, always tell the lab, "its a steroid" and leave it at.

I would email the link to that ulter thread to the company that tested these orbits
 
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AlwaysOn said:
I've have plenty of chemistry experience. make sure the lab gives the results to a person who is not familiar with the project, let that person draw up the exact molecule blindly from the test results. That molecule should be var of course.

But if you tell someone, its supposed var beforehand (I hope you didn't do this) then they can just say, yep thats var, overlooking a minor detail.

In the future, always tell the lab, "its a steroid" and leave it at.

I would email the link to that ulter thread to the company that tested these orbits
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I hear ya. you're right dude.
 
The lab that did the test on Orbit is the same chemist who does my work. He knows by the peaks that result from the column he uses for oxandrolone whether it's ox or not. He would have told you, because he would have noticed it as soon as he saw it, if it was the same ox precursor used in the BTG fakes.
He reported ox in orbit not the precursor.
As far as the whole story goes, I think there is something seriously flawed here. NO ONE overdoses a material as expensive as oxandrolone like that. You would notice it immediately if you're the capper simply because the material would be gone way ahead of your caps. Bye bye profit margin. I don't know if Ralph made a mistake at the lab but I seriously doubt it. But I can't explain what happened because there is something missing from the facts.

If you guys are ever looking of me call toll free 1-866-anafit-2
 
I'm gonna go ahead and declare shenanigans since no one else has. there's a good chance of some tom foolery going on as well. hehe.
Oh well, at least we have more info now than we did before. It will help me make a decision for future var purchases(which most likely won't be orbit).
 
Hhhmmmm, never heard of this Orbit Lab before. So many UG labs its hard to keep track. Anyone ever had anything tested by BD (uk) or SL (us)? Are we even allowed to mention full lab names here? I know on some boards you get crucified.
 
Anyone have the LOT# that was tested? I went and picked up a few bottles of the 10mgs as I figured the test results would come back clean cuz orbit had a good rep...so I now have some caps I can contribute if anyone is going to need this stuff re-tested. Let me know...
 
distantstorms said:
Anyone have the LOT# that was tested? I went and picked up a few bottles of the 10mgs as I figured the test results would come back clean cuz orbit had a good rep...so I now have some caps I can contribute if anyone is going to need this stuff re-tested. Let me know...
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I just got some too, read alot of good reviews of orbit so I picked some up. Not sure I would panic just yet. How many of these tabs were sent in to be tested? Maybe a mix up between the 10s and 25s? I have some 10s if the guys want to run another test I can also contribute whatever is needed.
 
my assumption is that they started marketing the 10mg var tabs, realized there was 25mg in them, and remarked them accordingly and started selling them as 25mg, so if i were you guys i'd load up on the 10mg while you can, assuming the lab result was accurate.
 
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Ingram said:
I'm sure the woman who are taking the 10mgs tabs don't find these results so pleasing.

How could you be that off? More than double the dosage??

-Ingram
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Making capsules is simple math... apparently these guys failed general math... good for the consumer. ;)
 
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The_Eviscerator said:
Making capsules is simple math... apparently these guys failed general math... good for the consumer. ;)
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Definitely excellent for the consumer that is aware of this major oversite...but potentially very dangerous for ones who are not aware. There really may have just been a mix up during the test, the sources I asked about orbit all said they have a great rep so far and there are lots of guys on the boards who are using their gear with good things to say about the products. Maybe the Orbit anavar users on this board should jump into the thread and lets hear what they think of it so far??
 
Not sure if I am happy or not. I have been taking what I thought was 40mg's per day, but now to find out is close to 100mg's per day? I have seen great strength gains and hardness,which have been great, but don't like taking 100mg's a day of var.
 
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if its fake, or that overdosed, it looks bad, and having their eq test low, just takes away from my confidence in them. the price on the var is way too good to be true. there are plenty of other GOOD ug labs around, that have been in business for a lot longer, with NO problems like this. i;d rather spend the $10 more per bottle and know what im getting, not guessing

and thanks to JA and others who took the initiative to test this. it helps the rest of us. ty
 
i wanna see what the 25ng are doing. thats what i am taking,.
 
Originally Posted by distantstorms
Anyone have the LOT# that was tested? I went and picked up a few bottles of the 10mgs as I figured the test results would come back clean cuz orbit had a good rep...so I now have some caps I can contribute if anyone is going to need this stuff re-tested. Let me know...
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LOT 0XA01790 Manufactord by ABB Labs Sweden
It is my belief that there is a mix up. If I was taking anymore than 10 mg I would have sonme serious sides.
 
Ive been taking the orbit 10mgs for 2 weeks now. I believe my lot # is the same as slash's, but dont have my bottle handy to check. Been taking 2 caps 2x/day. I have gained about 2 lbs so far and experienced a nice strength boost. Vascularity is also up. For me, sides have been nonexistent. Im considering dropping the dosage to 3 caps, but havent decided yet. Would it be a good idea to test a different lot # to see if they are consistent?
 
I just wanted to clear something up before it turns into a major conspiracy. The lab misprinted the LOT# in there respose. It is OXAD1790 not OXA01790.
Its just a typo but ive been seeing people post with both LOT#s. Just wanted to clear that up.
 
slash747 said:
People dont understand we are taking a risk. Sources are not going to be as willing to deal with someone that is going to trash a product they sell. Oh well man , like I said before its all good, we did it for the right reasons, thats all that counts.
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Slash -

Do me a favor, delete your post where you're quoting me. I came to an understanding with QOD.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
LOT 0XA01790 Manufactord by ABB Labs Sweden
It is my belief that there is a mix up. If I was taking anymore than 10 mg I would have sonme serious sides.
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Do you notice any gains from it?
 
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