hmmmm I'm running the enth done 3 quad shots 2 ml each and they are crippling me........I been using quest,qfs,lfc for a year or so now with no pain.....then I switch to orbit and BAM 2-3 days of pain...........not that I care to much, but ti is anoying....
I found mild pain, nothing to cry over lol. Felt like a small charlie horse the next day but thats it. After 2-3 weeks you guys will be raving over it lol. You will have wicked test feeling, please keep us posted