Oral Only

[Bazinio]

thanks. Seems you spotted the probelm. I thought I had good appetite. Crikey.. ur food bill must be huge. I better go to the shops

 

[jnef]

thanks. Seems you spotted the probelm. I thought I had good appetite. Crikey.. ur food bill must be huge. I better go to the shops

one word COSTCO

 

[JLowe02]

yes but he obviously needs to bulk and test is something that is just irreplaceable in a bulking cycle with an oral

agreed, but im just defending oral-only cycles to a certain extent. they are short, sweet and usually offer clean keepable gains.

 

[jnef]

agreed, but im just defending oral-only cycles to a certain extent. they are short, sweet and usually offer clean keepable gains.

i agree they can be beneficial, but i was just speaking for this fella

 

[digit0x]

Since everyone else has given most of the good stuff, when you're ready:

1-4 dbol 25mg/day
2-8 50mg var/day
6-10 sustain

 

[dabuffguy]

Breakfast - Toast, Cereal (sometimes porridge) bananna
lunch - pasta meal, or sandwiches, + fruit. (Good size lunch)
dinner - v good sized meal e.g chicken with lots of carbs (I just love mash spuds)
late evening - yoghurt, fruit (or scrambled eggs on toast)

breakfast, you have 0 protein. a huge problem.
lunch, not much protein.

from the looks of it you're getting about 80 grams of protein daily, which for putting on muscle will never get you any results ever.

you need 50 grams of protein at breakfast, lunch and dinner, with high protein snacks in between each meal, and a protein shake after workouts. That should get you to 200 grams + which is bare minimum for putting on muscle at your weight. When I bulk, I take in 4000 calories a day. 1600 of which come from protein.

Proetein is lacking huge, and I know I sound like a broken record, but you will never get big or strong eating like that. Even with steroids, that won't even be subpar for putting on quality mass.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Thanks. What kind of measuring system is that anyway? A retarded one.

so he's 190 basically.

at 6'2" 190 you got plenty of training to go my friend. Just eat eat eat. That's all you gotta do. You want to be big? You have to eat big.

You sure do throw around a lot of insults to people asking for advice? You call lot of things retarded.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

At least, at very least, 2 years no breaks, consistent, maybe taking a break once in a while, but no longer than a week break, and staying consistent with your diet. I trained for 2 years weight lifting before taking the jump, and played pro baseball before that(which encompassed some weight training), So I was already in good shape.

HMMMMM for who? Thats cool

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Did you start a year ago or you came back and hitting hard for a year?

 

[cw3383]

Bro... take my advise from somebody who has been in a similar situation... WAIT!!

It sounds like you are trying to take bodybuilding more serious which is great. But let me tell you... its much better to wait until you got your routine down before you start juicing. It looks like you don't even have your diet down or even understand the importance of protein.

It's not worth the money, effort, legal risk, acne unless you can take full advantage of it.

My $.02

With that being said... just go with some anavar

I have tried oral only and the only thing that didn't seem to mess me up much was anavar, and winny for less than 6 weeks. After that, my test levels started to die. Orals are always good for a few weeks then you need some test.

Good luck.