Oral-only cycles for a newbie

[shibs]

after meals have a high carb meal. for some easy recipes i eat natural oats with whole milk like cereal, its easier that way and you can eat more without getting full. you can also cook a lot of rice or other noodles at the same time. or just cook a shit ton of chicken breast at the same time, and keep in the fridge for later, its not too complicated

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

You're a fucking pussy and steroids are not for you.

YUP, I said it.

 

[needtogetarmy]

My first cycle was a winny only cycle. I ran 50mg for 7 weeks. It was awesome and I kept all of my gains.

I do recommend an oral cycle if you want to go for it. Make sure you have your PCT lined up and diet and training in check.

On another note, I was afraid of needles too. I used to pass out. What you need to do is to stick yourself just to practice. In the military I had to give myself an IV, and I had to do it quite a few times. Once you do it, it becomes easier. I can inject now without even thinking about it.

Also, some orals are very toxic on the liver so if you plan on doing more cycles in the future you will have to make the jump to injections. Good luck.

 

[Mattblack]

I think with a bit of practice I could get over it like you, but I'd have to have a nurse with me to show me what to do properly (rather than just doing it myself).... and I couldn't go anywhere near a vein!! Blurgh, just thinking about it makes me wanna throw up.

How can you get your liver tested without getting your doc suspicious? I can't just want into my docs office and say "yea I wanna take steroids, can you please test me blood for me?". I doubt my insurance company would be happy either. BTW I live in Holland so I may have to find some locals and ask what they do.

For the next month I'm gonna work on a high carb+protein post-workout meal. Luckily I know some chefs :-D

 

[C0LUMB0]

Welcome to EF bro, I think you have been given some great advice here... grab some N2GUARD if you are running orals.
Hit the diet section and put a proper meal plan together ,also do plenty of research on PCT, different side effects - cause+effect, AI's ,hcg ,SERMS BEFORE you go popping pills or injecting anything.

 

[Mattblack]

Where can I find oral-only cycles then with pros vs cons for each? There's just no oral-only cycles available online that I can see. So if someone was to "safely" (as safe as possible) go down the oral path, what would be best?

For example...
dbol 25 mgs a day for a month with .5 mg a-dex Mon, Wed, Fri. throughout (saw this in another post). Mix in some liv-52 to protect the liver.
PCT: 20 mgs Nolvadex for 3 weeks

It's this kind of info I can't find anywhere online. A good, basic, starter oral-only cycle including PCT. Anyone have a link or more info to share?

Thanks
Matt

 

[RADAR]

Damn Dude! read my post not once but twice,soak it in, You need to eat 6-7 servings a day with some protein in each, actually you need 2 grams of protein for every pound of bodyweight.

add a 6 week cycle of beastdrol and be ready for some real gains,and yes its a steroid!
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-build-muscle-loose-fat-then-read-712503.html

 

[Mattblack]

Thanks radar. Just spent 1 hour in the supermarket finding new foods. My first snack/lunch was a very large tortilla wrap filled with half a chicken breast, tub of brown rice, mixed salad, held together with a tiny bit of 0% mayo. Tasted stunning. Washed it down with a protein shake (i hate the shakes, so disgusting).
I've already had a banana, kellogs bran flakes, apple and 3 mandarins.... and this is before I've done any exercise today. It's only lunch and im still in the office.
Tonight - 1 hour on the cross trainer, 2 hours on the weights at home and a large chicken salad dinner with pasta etc. All washed down with more protein shakes.
That's gotta be enough!!!

Thanks for the link.

:-D

 

[ADORATION]

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-Breakfast: High fibre cereal mixed with a few coco pops for flavour (tree-bark flavour isn't my favourite lol)
-Lunch: Couple of pieces of fruit bread, buttered.
-Dinner: Large chicken salad meal (with pasta) or a salmon, potatoes & veg meal
-Supper: More high fibre cereal
-Snacks: Always a tin of tuna, 3 mandarines, 1 apple and 1 banana, couple of cups of tea and a tin of sliced peaches
-Supplements: OxyElite Pro pill for burning fat (only started them this week), protein shakes, N.O.Xplode before a workout and CellMass after a workout (and before bed).


My stats
Age: 26 (well, will be next week)
Height: 6'2" (182cm?)
Weight: 88kg (was 102 at the begining of the year, mostly fat lol. I lost 14kg in 3-4 months)

Cheers!

From what I can see you are looking at aas too early... Really, most people dont wait until they hit their natural limit so who cares about that part..
But you are tall, 6'2" i think 182cm is around 6'0"... and you weigh 88kg and mentioned wanting to lose a little more weight?
Maybe I'm wrong but the reccomended weight for the average joe male is around the 75-80kg mark(from what I remember).. For a taller guy that allows for more weight.

So with my theoretical maths in my head based on what you have said I think it's way too early to be worrying about AAS. more about correct training, not as much cardio, more protein then muscle should grow.

 

[Mattblack]

not as much cardio? I thought that was also important for muscle growth to keep your cardio system in shape. Get the blood delivered to muscles well etc.