Oral-only cycles for a newbie

[ALIN]

hey guys,

Another newbie here (I know, loads of us).

I really need your help and advice because I've hit a wall in my training.

I've spent a few days researching steroids after a friend told me "they're not as bad as the media make out". I'm happy to know he was right, from what I've read.

But, he also told me I could run some short oral-only cycles to start with.

Looking online, I can't find any cycles that don't include injections. I simply cannot bring myself to inject at all, really I can't.

So, please can someone tell me if oral-only cycles really are A) unnecessarily harmful for you vs injections and B) If they are pointlessly ineffective for long/short term use?

To give a bit of info about me, I'm 26, been training on and off for about 10 years, of average height and build (not in body builder scales, just a normal, average bloke - 87kg). This year I've really worked very hard, lost 14kg of fat, work out 4-5 times a week... but just cannot get much more muscle mass (no matter how many books and websites I read, workout regimes I try, etc).

If oral-only cycles aren't as bad as some forum posters make out on the net, what would you advise to start with? I want something that has minimum impact on my health/liver and I'm not looking for giant increases... just a boost.

Thanks very much in advance for your assistance.

~Matt

The only oral only I will ever suggest is ANAVAR.

 

[Mattblack]

Thanks for the non-sarcastic replies guys. I've seen lots of pumped-up arogant jerks taking the piss out of people genuinely asking for help on other sites. This site seems really decent and I appreciate the kind replies.

Damn, I need to cut and bulk lol. Ok here's my average food for the day (note: I have high BP and cholesterol already so eat little red meat or pork etc. Family problem with thyroid)...
-Breakfast: High fibre cereal mixed with a few coco pops for flavour (tree-bark flavour isn't my favourite lol)
-Lunch: Couple of pieces of fruit bread, buttered.
-Dinner: Large chicken salad meal (with pasta) or a salmon, potatoes & veg meal
-Supper: More high fibre cereal
-Snacks: Always a tin of tuna, 3 mandarines, 1 apple and 1 banana, couple of cups of tea and a tin of sliced peaches
-Supplements: OxyElite Pro pill for burning fat (only started them this week), protein shakes, N.O.Xplode before a workout and CellMass after a workout (and before bed).

Workout Regime recently has been...
Mon / Wed / Fri / Sat: Split routine workout, all weight training in my gym at home. A friend comes round and we work out together
Tues / Thurs / Fri: 1 hour on the cross trainer in front of the TV.
Sun: Nothing, recovering from a saturday night out.

My stats
Age: 26 (well, will be next week)
Height: 6'2" (182cm?)
Weight: 88kg (was 102 at the begining of the year, mostly fat lol. I lost 14kg in 3-4 months)
Job: Office work unfortunately. Work in IT as an engineer for a cardiology informatics system.

I'm no serious athlete (haha very far from it), but I do spend a lot of hours each week working out and am getting sick of not seeing the results I want. I have friends who are in better condition and they don't do any training at all. Really pees me off.

Hope this is enough info. Need anymore then please ask

Cheers!

 

[Stocks_and_Steroids]

You should try some dry injections first. Maybe some Sub Q injections with a 30 gauge. Then a 23 gauge in the quad. Then a 23 gauge in the glute. I bet everyone here was scared/nervous there first injection. It gets easier. I doubt your training that hard if you are scared of a little pinch from a injection. I would advise you wait. Oral only cycle reminds me of someone who eats chewable vitamins instead of pills because pills are "hard to swallow'. Just Silly

 

[Juiced91]

At a quick glance of ur diet you need more meals in there like ALIN said more food = more muscles. You need to be eating every 2-3 hours like i said earlier chicken is great and so many vairations can be done with it. Chicken brown rice, whole grain pasta, sweet potato and ur veggies brocolli carrots etc. Evry 2 hours eat as much as you can and then eat some more, eat big to get big. Good luck

 

[Mattblack]

no, you're missing the point. I'm not scared! I know it doesn't hurt. I have regular blood test for my cholesterol but I go faint and pass out sometimes (not recently actually). It's a genuine phobia, my blood pressure sky rockets when I see a needle in the same room - doesn't even have to be near me. Then when I get away from the needles my BP drops too fast and I black out. Of course it doesn't hurt lol. Doesn't have to touch me. I can't hold pins without freaking out haha.

I know it sounds really stupid, but I'm not exagerating. I'm no soft arse, I've done plenty of matial arts. I can see arms cut open, legs chopped off... anything gorey, just dont let me see needles.

Juiced, how can I eat more meals and not get a bigger belly though? I thought that basically if I eat more carbs then my body will use the carbs before the stored body fat. I need of my body fat to get burnt up. Also, don't you store additional fat from your diet if you have excess carbs as your body uses carbs first?

What do you guys think about these OxyElite Pro pills? good ratings online but I'm 50/50 about these kinda things.

 

[shibs]

why don't you just lay down and have your bro that gave you the advice pin you without you looking. atleast for the first couple times. if you really want to do an oral only cycle i'd recommend checking out some of the designer on mrsupps.com or orbitnutrition.com beastdrol is awesome. and take some n2guard with it for your liver from needtobuildmuscle.net. as far as hair loss, if you're not already prone to it or it isn't in your genetics it shouldn't affect you.

 

[Mattblack]

he doesn't work out with me and he doesn't inject either. Just uses pills from what I know. Gonna have a better discussion with him next time I see him (he lives a long way away).

Maybe i just need some serious work on my diet. I'm quite lazy though and would prefer to make a load of something that I can eat every 3 hours (rather than making something every 3 hours). Especially for when in work. Any good recipe suggestions for quick, high-carb meal/snacks throughout the say?

 

[cromike]

def need test.dbol only is a start to cycle

 

[Mattblack]

Thanks Ozzie. Protein with every meal then? Even like at breakfast with a bowl of cereal? I think I need some serious meal suggestions, sounds like I'm doing it all wrong. If I'm gonna use any roid cycles then I've gotta get everything else in order first.

What do you guys eat at nigjt, after training? I always have my meals before I train and then after training I only have tuna, protein shakes and some fibre cereal before bed. Should I be eating more carbs BEFORE BED in order to help my muscles rebuild as I'm sleeping then?

Can you point me in the direction of some good weekly meal programmes?

Cheers once again
Matt

 

[digit0x]

I used to be terrified of needles my first 2 cycles (dbol only and oral tren) we're a waste because I didn't know about pct check out www.spotinjections.com have a buddy do it your first time and you'll be good to go it really only feels like a pinch...

I don't even mind the needle breaking the skin thats the easiest part. Its when you can feel that fucker deep in the muscle tissue, but you still have another .5 inch to go and then you poke a nerve SSSSHHIITT muscles twitch needle doesn't break thank jesus, then you aspirate only to find your in a vein and you gotta back out and do it all again.

no really its not that bad just do it don't balk and stare at it for 5 minutes or you'll get the jitters and it will never happen. Reach back and hammer fist the bastard into your quad.