Opinions on EQ

[Cwaynemash]

Gonna run a cycle of test cyp(500mg/wk) & kickstart of dbol(40mg day for 4-5 weeks)
Want to throw another compound in there- was leaning towards equipoise. Gonna run that @ 400mg wk.
Anyone have exp w that? I could run deca instead but I'm worried about the bloat as I hold water easily already & it's in my face! Lol.
I'm looking to bulk in this cycle while leaning out a bit- nothing too dramatic. I will hv a proper pct & hcg as well.

 

[Cwaynemash]

I'm also open to other stacks if y'all have suggestions. I'm not looking to spend a lot of $ so anything short ester I'm not into

 

[goin on 4T]

Stats and cycle history please.

 

[Cwaynemash]

29
5'11"
237lbs
16-18% bf
Been training for 10 years
1 cycle under belt:
Test e for 16 weeks(600mg)
Tren e for 6 weeks(300 mg)
Ran the tren bc the bottle was given to me

 

[auslifter90]

Eq makes me very very hungry

 

[EZ_E]

A few observations;

Can't bulk and lean out..

EQ needs to be run for a long time, so if $$$ is an issue EQ may be out...but if $$$ is an issue you shouldn't cycle @ all due to the need for the right diet and supps...

You're a big guy but BF is still high...

I'm not a big fan of deca either...

What's your diet like?

~EZ

 

[nickb86]

id run the cycle longer alot of guys me included would rec minimum of 16 weeks EQ and id go with the EQ if your not fond of deca. Could use the dbol but thats up to you buddy. you gotta get your diet and training spot on or there is little point in cycling. If you do hit this cycle though id stack it up like this and makesure youre sweet.

weeks 1-18 Test E 500mg/wk split mon/thursday.
weeks 1-16 EQ 400mg/wk
weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg/day
week 1-4 N2guard
week 1-18 Need2slin
weeks 2-5 hcgenerate
weeks 6-9 HCG 500ius twice a week Mon/thurs
weeks 10-13 hcgenerate
weeks 14-18 HCG 500ius twice a week Mon/thurs
weeks 2-18 aromasin 12.5mg eod

PCT
20-23 unleashed/post cycle
20-25 forma stanzol
20-25 Daa
20-23 clomid 25/25/25/25
hope this is off some help..

 

[infraredline]

Gonna run a cycle of test cyp(500mg/wk) & kickstart of dbol(40mg day for 4-5 weeks)
Want to throw another compound in there- was leaning towards equipoise. Gonna run that @ 400mg wk.
Anyone have exp w that? I could run deca instead but I'm worried about the bloat as I hold water easily already & it's in my face! Lol.
I'm looking to bulk in this cycle while leaning out a bit- nothing too dramatic. I will hv a proper pct & hcg as well.

Eq is great, you honestly can't go wrong with it especially with test but you are gonna want to run it @ 450mg not 400mg

Personally I feel eq is superior to deca since collagen synthesis is greater, you don't have the worry of prolactin, it increases your rbc to a greater extent and it is not a 19-nor compound

 

[Texas Monster]

id run the cycle longer alot of guys me included would rec minimum of 16 weeks EQ and id go with the EQ if your not fond of deca. Could use the dbol but thats up to you buddy. id stack it up like this and makesure youre sweet.

weeks 1-18 Test E 500mg/wk split mon/thursday.
weeks 1-16 EQ 400mg/wk
weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg/day
week 1-4 N2guard
week 1-18 Need2slin
weeks 2-5 hcgenerate
weeks 6-9 HCG 500ius twice a week Mon/thurs
weeks 10-13 hcgenerate
weeks 14-18 HCG 500ius twice a week Mon/thurs
weeks 2-18 aromasin 12.5mg eod

PCT
14-17 unleashed/post cycle
14-19 forma stanzol
14-17 Daa
14-17 clomid 25/25/25/25
hope this is off some help bud..

This is not the proper way to pct after EQ. You know it stays in your system for a long ass time right? Up to 6 weeks.

PCT should start at week 23 if you cycle for 16 weeks at 600mg.

Also for your PCT it is not going to be your typical 4 weeker and your gtg. You will spend about 6-8 weeks in PCT.

The Next cycle I am going to be doing is going to be EQ and it will be along these lines.

Week 1-16 EQ 600mg
Week 1-16 Test c 300mg
Week 1-10 NPP 400 mg
Week 17-22 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 17-22 Winny 60mg ed
Week 1-14 Mast E 300mg

PCT Week 23

Week 23-26
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma 5 pumps am and pm
PCT+Unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Week 27-29
Forma 3 pumps am and pm

Week 27-30
Bridge double dose
PCT+unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Then after this I would consider some more natty supps and what not to keep you going in the gym.

 

[nickb86]

This is not the proper way to pct after EQ. You know it stays in your system for a long ass time right? Up to 6 weeks.

PCT should start at week 23 if you cycle for 16 weeks at 600mg.

Also for your PCT it is not going to be your typical 4 weeker and your gtg. You will spend about 6-8 weeks in PCT.

The Next cycle I am going to be doing is going to be EQ and it will be along these lines.

Week 1-16 EQ 600mg
Week 1-16 Test c 300mg
Week 1-10 NPP 400 mg
Week 17-22 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 17-22 Winny 60mg ed
Week 1-14 Mast E 300mg

PCT Week 23

Week 23-26
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma 5 pumps am and pm
PCT+Unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Week 27-29
Forma 3 pumps am and pm

Week 27-30
Bridge double dose
PCT+unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Then after this I would consider some more natty supps and what not to keep you going in the gym.

Whoah shit sorry my bad i completely mistyped my pct timing, apologies have edited it now...

 

[ta2ooz]

eq is good and bad. good because it makes you hungry,makes your veins pop out if you have low body fat % and gives you great strengh gains, and bad because you see fuck all results size wise, gains come real slow and not too much. Ive had 800mg a week for 18 weeks and ended up dissapointed plus Ive never been a fan of long cycles,but what doesnt work for me could work for you.

 

[infraredline]

This is not the proper way to pct after EQ. You know it stays in your system for a long ass time right? Up to 6 weeks.

PCT should start at week 23 if you cycle for 16 weeks at 600mg.

Also for your PCT it is not going to be your typical 4 weeker and your gtg. You will spend about 6-8 weeks in PCT.

The Next cycle I am going to be doing is going to be EQ and it will be along these lines.

Week 1-16 EQ 600mg
Week 1-16 Test c 300mg
Week 1-10 NPP 400 mg
Week 17-22 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 17-22 Winny 60mg ed
Week 1-14 Mast E 300mg

PCT Week 23

Week 23-26
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma 5 pumps am and pm
PCT+Unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Week 27-29
Forma 3 pumps am and pm

Week 27-30
Bridge double dose
PCT+unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Then after this I would consider some more natty supps and what not to keep you going in the gym.

Yeah that is quite possible the sole flaw in it, does anyone know if there is a boldenone cypionate or boldenone enanthate? I know there is boldenone acetate and propionate so one would think there is a cyp or enanthate version

 

[brainacid]

EQ needs to be front loaded 1.8 times your weekly dose + the usual injection.

Ex: 400mg wk then front load (400x1.8)+200=920mg...~1g

If I did EQ my first injection would be 1000mg on Mon, second pin 200mg on Thu, 200mg Mon, etc.. for 12 weeks.

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[Cwaynemash]

EQ doesn't sound like its worth the hassle- any other compounds that are simple for a novice user? I'm not looking to blow up just want to have a harder look

 

[muscleaddiction]

Running EQ right now and loving it...600mg EW, Test C @ 500mg EW...oh and a little Tren Ace .

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[Texas Monster]

Yeah that is quite possible the sole flaw in it, does anyone know if there is a boldenone cypionate or boldenone enanthate? I know there is boldenone acetate and propionate so one would think there is a cyp or enanthate version

EQ is Boldenone
Undecylenate


You can get boldenone attached to different esters but if we are talking about eq then it is a very long ester.

On another note you can always fun a hybrid with a 10 week run of EQ with a 6 to 8 week run of boldenone ace starting at week 9 and you can still keep stable of levels of boldenone while being able to pct sooner.

 

[musclei]

My second cycle was 600mg EQ + 400mg Test for 16 weeks and I hated it. I don't know how I managed to get fat on it while eating clean and it affected my libido negatively. Gains weren't very good either. Now I'm trying Deca, which I didn't expect to like more than EQ but it turns out I do.
I might try it again in the future mixing it with Mast, but it's not like I'm looking forward to it.

 

[goin on 4T]

I love eq. On 200 cyp and 600 eq right now. Week 4. Feeling great anxiety went away 2-3 weeks into it as did need to eat. On tight diet 175g of carbs leaning down to 10% by Christmas.

 

[MattJS]

I found it gave me a noticeable increase in vascularity, but very little else, and because you have to dose it high and run it long compared to anything else, the cost/benefit ratio isn't great... If cost isnt a factor, you're already jacked and just want your veins bulging out a bit more its a solid choice...

 

[goin on 4T]

EQ needs to be front loaded 1.8 times your weekly dose + the usual injection.

Ex: 400mg wk then front load (400x1.8)+200=920mg...~1g

If I did EQ my first injection would be 1000mg on Mon, second pin 200mg on Thu, 200mg Mon, etc.. for 12 weeks.

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I disagree, completely, that is why you run long cycles, all that you are going to do is create a wave at the begining and cause a huge issue with anxiety and hunger. Pretty unnecessary.
If you need instant gains run a oral or add a short ester.
Either way Undec is a long ester.
Hell just get it in a shorter ester than, they make it.

 

[ALIN]

Gonna run a cycle of test cyp(500mg/wk) & kickstart of dbol(40mg day for 4-5 weeks)
Want to throw another compound in there- was leaning towards equipoise. Gonna run that @ 400mg wk.
Anyone have exp w that? I could run deca instead but I'm worried about the bloat as I hold water easily already & it's in my face! Lol.
I'm looking to bulk in this cycle while leaning out a bit- nothing too dramatic. I will hv a proper pct & hcg as well.

I like EQ for strength gains,vascualrity,lean mass,,stacked with some TESTOSTERONE you can make an excellent cycle.

 

[tnez25]

30 dbol ed 4 weeks
Test e. 400 ew. 12 weeks
Tren e 400 ew 10 weeks
Eq 450 ew 16 weeks
Caber for Tren .50 e3rd day
...
Pct if course

I'm three weeks in feeling beastly
And haven't even got full efffects yet

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[LoveSnatches]

Dammmit so having a single bottle of Kalpa Bold 300 is useless? I need a few more?

 

[Texas Monster]

Dammmit so having a single bottle of Kalpa Bold 300 is useless? I need a few more?

You should only need 2 more to run at 600mg for 16 weeks

 

[goin on 4T]

Dammmit so having a single bottle of Kalpa Bold 300 is useless? I need a few more?

You really are he'll bent on fucking your shoulder up worse aren't you. Let me tell you something. Don't run test higher than 200 if you are injured. Test will deminsh your bodies own production of collagene. Do you understand what that means?

 

[LoveSnatches]

:Facepalm: thats another 120 bucks! This went from an affordable stack to expensive! Lol

@goin on 4t: Nah man I am listening to your guys advice!

I came from another forum where I was told all these things (test/deca/bold) + GHRP-6 would be great plus using Nolva as PCT.

As you can tell from the last statement I am learning! Nolva and Deca is a nono!

I am just stockpiling until I get some people with decent reps (like you) suggest I am ready for it.


PS - The cycle I was thinking of running was Test @ 125 EW + Bold 150 EW. Unfortunately not many people have run such low dosage cycles.

 

[tnez25]

I have,,,,,, ran 125 test e
125 Tren e
175 eq. Every week for twelve.
Everyone said it was low but had decent results from it and no sides that I noticed.

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[Tucko]

This is not the proper way to pct after EQ. You know it stays in your system for a long ass time right? Up to 6 weeks.

PCT should start at week 23 if you cycle for 16 weeks at 600mg.

Also for your PCT it is not going to be your typical 4 weeker and your gtg. You will spend about 6-8 weeks in PCT.

The Next cycle I am going to be doing is going to be EQ and it will be along these lines.

Week 1-16 EQ 600mg
Week 1-16 Test c 300mg
Week 1-10 NPP 400 mg
Week 17-22 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 17-22 Winny 60mg ed
Week 1-14 Mast E 300mg

PCT Week 23

Week 23-26
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma 5 pumps am and pm
PCT+Unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Week 27-29
Forma 3 pumps am and pm

Week 27-30
Bridge double dose
PCT+unleashed
Hcgenerate
DAA double dose

Then after this I would consider some more natty supps and what not to keep you going in the gym.

you guys make as look like multivitamin,my friend used npp for 6weeks,125mg per week and gained 10kg of lean muscle every time,he did 3 cycles and no pct and kept is size with,probably no shutdown after only 6weeks small doses,but what are you doing with all the doses?????

 

[bonacris]

you guys make as look like multivitamin,my friend used npp for 6weeks,125mg per week and gained 10kg of lean muscle every time,he did 3 cycles and no pct and kept is size with,probably no shutdown after only 6weeks small doses,but what are you doing with all the doses?????

10kg everytime and kept.. I'd believe it if he was 50kg when he started AAS

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[magman1]

Bro everyone has their own goals but what are you doing bulking / using dbol at 17% bf? Results of many compounds are going to be muted bc they are under a significant layer of bf. I'd go test / eq, fight that eq hunger like a mad man, and use those eq effects to just run your fuckin ass off man.