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I like the cycle...i do not know alot about the test gel as I have not come into contact with many that have used it.....but wouldnt using test during your post cycle supress natural test levels further?
Otherwise the cycle looks good, I might even throw in some ldex at .5 ED, also would run tren the full extend of your cycle since it is only 8 weeks
Otherwise the cycle looks good, I might even throw in some ldex at .5 ED, also would run tren the full extend of your cycle since it is only 8 weeks
Test Gel
Well, I recently read a thread on post cyle recovery, in it Fonz suggested using Testosterone Gel, (Androgel) instead of Clomid/HCG. He stated that it wouldn't halt HPTA recovery and was what pro body builders are now using. I just figured I try it since I hate Clomid
Well, I recently read a thread on post cyle recovery, in it Fonz suggested using Testosterone Gel, (Androgel) instead of Clomid/HCG. He stated that it wouldn't halt HPTA recovery and was what pro body builders are now using. I just figured I try it since I hate Clomid
Fonz Quote/Thread
Here is the quote from Fonz:
I'll divulge a few secrets.....
1. Aromasin/Femara for estrogen reduction.
Best is aromasin. WIth femara a close second.
2. Cabergoline/Bromocriptine for prolactin suppression.
Best is cabergoline. Also increases GH.
3. Androgel. Yes androgel. It will keep test levels in the middle/upper range with NO IMPACT om your LH.(This
idea was actually fielded by Mr. Nobody. Have to give
credit where credit is due )
No HCG/Novaldex/Clomid. They are antiquated.
These three drugs target all the fractors that make HPTA
recovery slower.
Estrogen/Prolactin/Low test levels
Fonz
Here is a later thread to expound upon recovery options:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...31&perpage=20&highlight=androgel&pagenumber=2
Here is the quote from Fonz:
I'll divulge a few secrets.....
1. Aromasin/Femara for estrogen reduction.
Best is aromasin. WIth femara a close second.
2. Cabergoline/Bromocriptine for prolactin suppression.
Best is cabergoline. Also increases GH.
3. Androgel. Yes androgel. It will keep test levels in the middle/upper range with NO IMPACT om your LH.(This
idea was actually fielded by Mr. Nobody. Have to give
credit where credit is due )
No HCG/Novaldex/Clomid. They are antiquated.
These three drugs target all the fractors that make HPTA
recovery slower.
Estrogen/Prolactin/Low test levels
Fonz
Here is a later thread to expound upon recovery options:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...31&perpage=20&highlight=androgel&pagenumber=2
Stillgoing
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Re: Test Gel
Fonz is a smart bro. I darn sure hope/wish/pray he is right, recovery is expensive and a pain in the ass. However, remember, you can always find someone to tell you what you want to hear. There are a lot of other really smart bros on this board, and, on this topic, Fonz is definitely in the minority in terms of opinion on the matter. The majority believes ANY exo test will not allow recovery. I also believe this to be true based on personal experience. Under 100mg of enth per week for 12wks shut me down HARD (don't ask why I did that!!).
The rest of the cycle looks fine. My point is: do more research on whether post-c is necessary for you or not. You may want to go with the "better safe than sorry" approach.
nolin7 said:Well, I recently read a thread on post cyle recovery, in it Fonz suggested using Testosterone Gel, (Androgel) instead of Clomid/HCG. He stated that it wouldn't halt HPTA recovery and was what pro body builders are now using. I just figured I try it since I hate Clomid
Fonz is a smart bro. I darn sure hope/wish/pray he is right, recovery is expensive and a pain in the ass. However, remember, you can always find someone to tell you what you want to hear. There are a lot of other really smart bros on this board, and, on this topic, Fonz is definitely in the minority in terms of opinion on the matter. The majority believes ANY exo test will not allow recovery. I also believe this to be true based on personal experience. Under 100mg of enth per week for 12wks shut me down HARD (don't ask why I did that!!).
The rest of the cycle looks fine. My point is: do more research on whether post-c is necessary for you or not. You may want to go with the "better safe than sorry" approach.
Too much
I wanted to use the Enanthate to reduce the amount of injections. I will be rotating Tren injections between Chest/Bi's/Delts. Chest twice a week for spot injections because I grow very little there. So I figured to reduce scar tissue I would alternate Thighs for the Test injection. Thanks for the suggestion though
I wanted to use the Enanthate to reduce the amount of injections. I will be rotating Tren injections between Chest/Bi's/Delts. Chest twice a week for spot injections because I grow very little there. So I figured to reduce scar tissue I would alternate Thighs for the Test injection. Thanks for the suggestion though
