I think the board has become so dilluted, it doesnt even attract a gym-going crowd. I dont need a porn forum, i dont need to know what clubs you all go too, i mean its really out of hand. George may have had a genuine purpose when he created elite, but it has become lost in a hopeless attempt to sell products. But to whom? I doubt 99% of the people on this board now are interested in bodybuilding at all, and 99% of those wont buy his products(mass quantities) anyway. I doubt theyre even old enough to have a credit card. Hes targeting an audience that he himself drove away. There is some knowledge to be had, but all the intelligent vets have gone. This was a sinking ship when i joinded, and its now at the bottom of the ocean. Its up to george to bring it back, but i doubt that will help any. And i swear, you fairly new people need to be much more respectful to the vets who even bother coming back, and praise them for the knowledge they deign to give you, because i see many people who obviously dont know shit disrespecting them and being childish. I can see there is no way to filter out all the teens here, but you fuckers dont need to show it. Hell, i hate njstacked, but i at least know he uses gear, and trains, so i can respect him. But some of you newbies insist your always right, that we dont know shit. I now hate admitting I got my start here at elite, cause then people look at the board the way it is now, and judge me on that, and that sucks. Just like this board.