Only up 3 pounds from dbol in first week

[DesiringMass317]

You won't lose all your gains with proper pct but a lot of it will be water weight. You should still see some gains but without testosterone your really losing a lot.

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I'm pretty sure I got the proper pct
Haha

Might put test in next cycle or anavar and dbol if I don't wanna pin yet


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[stevesmi]

so you want to gain 10 pounds of water weight and look like a bloated fish ??

what are your stats?

the people who say they gain a ton of weight fast are guys who are so below their genetic potential that they could take creatine and have a general workout strategy put together and gain 30 pounds without AAS.

those guys that have those skinny chests you see at the gym who are benching 85 pounds and struggling, then run a cycle and decide to workout and magically after a month are benching 150 and bragging to their friends they gained 30 pounds of water. then after AAS they shrink back up, lose their motivation and go back to benching 85 pounds

 

[stevesmi]

You won't lose all your gains with proper pct but a lot of it will be water weight. You should still see some gains but without testosterone your really losing a lot.

I have run primo, drol, masteron, tren, dbol, etc etc. without test. i saw just as good a gains as i did when i stacked test with them. you don't need to use test as a base.. although a newb should for their first few cycles use test as a base until they gain experience.

dbol or beastdrol alone for 3-4 weeks is a great little cycle in between long cycles and your bridges.

 

[DesiringMass317]

so you want to gain 10 pounds of water weight and look like a bloated fish ??

what are your stats?

the people who say they gain a ton of weight fast are guys who are so below their genetic potential that they could take creatine and have a general workout strategy put together and gain 30 pounds without AAS.

those guys that have those skinny chests you see at the gym who are benching 85 pounds and struggling

5'6
Don't like to say my weight I get flamed for it every time

Ridiculously low BF

Been training for 2 years

Have a disease that can benefit from AAS


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[stevesmi]

^^^ i am your height as well.. and we do not flame on this board so don't be afraid to post your weight.

 

[kiai]

which Anti E are you using ? and do you mind listing your "good PCT" ?

 

[DesiringMass317]

^^^ i am your height as well.. and we do not flame on this board so don't be afraid to post your weight.

130 but muscular cause of height not big though


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[DesiringMass317]

which Anti E are you using ? and do you mind listing your "good PCT" ?

Anti e 6-bromo

For pct
Clomid
Week 1 100 ed 50am 50pm
Week 2-3/4 50 Ed
Gonna throw in creatine also



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[stevesmi]

130 but muscular cause of height not big though

you have a high metabolism and are probably young, give it time. the AAS isn't the solution here. as you get older you will develop more into a man, i used to be your size in high school and muscular.. very low bf. i was in the 120's and i competed in the 129 weight class for weightlifting.. i was ripped with an 8 pack but it was LEAN MUSCLE. we ran everyday for weightlifting for 45 minutes in 90 degree weather to keep our weights down.

now in my 30's i am 185 bro at the same height. its taken me years to develop a strong base.. the difference is my diet is much better, i am more developed as a man, i have the experience to know how to workout, and most importantly cut down on the cardio (swimming, running) and start throwing around heavy weight. good things will happen.

you can start with carbs in the morning for breakfast.. waffles, pancakes.. you will gain 20 pounds very fast carb loading in the am. trust me on this. also i want you to down a dozen eggs a day.. cage free omega eggs. if you have to eat them raw so be it.

the dbol is gonna make you more hungry but keep in mind AAS does not help you reach your genetic potential which for you is probably 60 pounds more than you weigh now, it hinders it. sounds weird but its true

 

[DesiringMass317]

you have a high metabolism and are probably young, give it time. the AAS isn't the solution here. as you get older you will develop more into a man, i used to be your size in high school and muscular.. very low bf. i was in the 120's and i competed in the 129 weight class for weightlifting.. i was ripped with an 8 pack but it was LEAN MUSCLE. we ran everyday for weightlifting for 45 minutes in 90 degree weather to keep our weights down.

now in my 30's i am 185 bro at the same height. its taken me years to develop a strong base.. the difference is my diet is much better, i am more developed as a man, i have the experience to know how to workout, and most importantly cut down on the cardio (swimming, running) and start throwing around heavy weight. good things will happen.

you can start with carbs in the morning for breakfast.. waffles, pancakes.. you will gain 20 pounds very fast carb loading in the am. trust me on this. also i want you to down a dozen eggs a day.. cage free omega eggs. if you have to eat them raw so be it.

the dbol is gonna make you more hungry but keep in mind AAS does not help you reach your genetic potential which for you is probably 60 pounds more than you weigh now, it hinders it. sounds weird but its true

Nice to know someone was in similar shoes

I have a disease holding me down too and my test levels are in the normal but very low range

I have tried to eat my self to death only to burn everything I've eaten

I've been told on other forums I've developed a good base, I started at 110 pounds

I have this also

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