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ONLY for the Cardio BULKERS

Personally, I feel that if you had to choose one over the other you'd be better off going with HIIT. In both cases, the calories burned have to be made up in your diet. However, HIIT is going to have greater nutrient partitioning effects, as well as most likely get you in better shape.

That's not to say that moderate intensity cardio is a bad idea; I can just see a more solid argument for HIIT if you're choosing only one. Like I said initially, doing both is probably optimal.
 
For those that do the cardio right after weights, do you drink you post workout shake before or after the cardio?
 
slyder190 said:
Moderate. 30 min first thing before breakfast. 3x a week.
Right on the money bro.............what's moderate for you? Incline walk on the treadmill? Rails or no rails?
 
JKurz1 said:
Right on the money bro.....

What was this thread a quiz on who knows what JKurz1 thinks is the best form of cardio while bulking? Why ask a question when you are pretty much just looking to see the answer you want to see? It all depends on your goals bro, no offense slyder but you are not on the money, I would never have a hard gainer doing 30mins moderate cardio first thing in the morning 3 days per week if they are trying to bulk.
 
Ulter said:
I have been running outside. .


there is no substitute

jogging out side minimum of 30 minutes is all many need

running outside also tends to get your "core" stronger

thus it is possible to actualy get stronger from it
 
Themachine01 said:
What was this thread a quiz on who knows what JKurz1 thinks is the best form of cardio while bulking? Why ask a question when you are pretty much just looking to see the answer you want to see? It all depends on your goals bro, no offense slyder but you are not on the money, I would never have a hard gainer doing 30mins moderate cardio first thing in the morning 3 days per week if they are trying to bulk.
LOL....relax bro...that's just exactly what I do, and thats all I meant by it. I wasnt looking for "my answer". I was looking to see what everyone else does, because sometimes I feel as if its too easy. But I guess that should be saved (intensity) for the next phase. That's all I meant/.
 
"For those that do the cardio right after weights, do you drink you post workout shake before or after the cardio?" - HardROCK

RIght after cardio brother. Actually even when I'm doing regular cardio in the AM, I try and get the food down ASAP. There is no residual fat burning effect after the cardio is done, once your done doing cardio the fat burning stops, so cram some food in you ASAP.
 
JoNeS said:
"For those that do the cardio right after weights, do you drink you post workout shake before or after the cardio?" - HardROCK

RIght after cardio brother. Actually even when I'm doing regular cardio in the AM, I try and get the food down ASAP. There is no residual fat burning effect after the cardio is done, once your done doing cardio the fat burning stops, so cram some food in you ASAP.
actually, bro, this depends on how intense your cardio is.....when I cut, I refrain for 1hr after cardio and that has allowed me to get down to 6%. An hour really is nothing after I stretch, pound some water, and do some abs....but, when bulking, a shake is sitting in the fridge ASAP.
 
JKurz1 said:
actually, bro, this depends on how intense your cardio is.....when I cut, I refrain for 1hr after cardio and that has allowed me to get down to 6%. An hour really is nothing after I stretch, pound some water, and do some abs....but, when bulking, a shake is sitting in the fridge ASAP.

I'm all obsessed about not losing muscle, so pre cardio I pop 5 g's in BCAA tab's, and post cardio I try and get my food down ASAP, and it's been working for me I'm getting leaner. Also when I get the food down with-out waiting, it gives me more time to eat more meals later in the day every 3 hours, w/0 cramming as much.

But anyway I'm on the sauce now so, I'll try waiting the hour post cardio before eating (ANd see if I notice better fat loss results) because I'm not as nearly worried about muscle loss now.
 
JKurz1 said:
Incline walk on the treadmill? Rails or no rails?

If you're holding onto the rails you may as well not even be doing the cardio.




J/k, but man, I think that's pathetic. Not that I'm going to take it up with Ronnie any time soon...
 
this year i'm not going to do cardio at all. for the next ten months i'm doing nothin but eating very clean so i won't have to worry so much during the last 12 weeks. this way i feel there will be no concern in loss of mass.
 
Joe Stenson said:
If you're holding onto the rails you may as well not even be doing the cardio.




J/k, but man, I think that's pathetic. Not that I'm going to take it up with Ronnie any time soon...

Word life stenson, i smile when i see clown at a 11% incline :p holding onto the rails
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Word life stenson, i smile when i see clown at a 11% incline :p holding onto the rails

haha, it's just that it makes things infinitely easier. No one likes doing cardio; if you're going to do it, may as well do it right.
 
I do the treadmill 2x/week for 30 minutes, then do a 25-35 mile bike ride on Saturday. I rode 28 today and I still might hit the gym for back training later tonight.
 
Joe Stenson said:
haha, it's just that it makes things infinitely easier. No one likes doing cardio; if you're going to do it, may as well do it right.


Agrreed....so what is you typical incline treadmill protocol? 4mph, 9% grade? I've worn a heart monitor and get my HR to about 60-70% max with this or cranked to 12% and 4.5-6 holding on.............just have to increase the intensity if you hold on.........(which is only really done the day after legs)``
 
JKurz1 said:
Agrreed....so what is you typical incline treadmill protocol? 4mph, 9% grade?

I'm pretty much always at the full 15% incline. The speed varies based on how my legs are feeling that day, which seems to change without reason all the time. Always in between 3.5-4.2 mph.
 
Joe Stenson said:
I'm pretty much always at the full 15% incline. The speed varies based on how my legs are feeling that day, which seems to change without reason all the time. Always in between 3.5-4.2 mph.
once we start getting up past 4%, it's a fing chore....one would think at 6'2 it would be easier, but its not....couple with the fact that it's 5:30am and my legs are sore for 2 days past quad day and 2 days past hammy day, I'm holding on for part of the 2nd half..........like I said, my HR is still peaked!
 
JKurz1 said:
once we start getting up past 4%, it's a fing chore....one would think at 6'2 it would be easier

2 things:

1) Why do you think it would be easier when you're taller?

2) I don't even really notice the incline at all until it gets over 10%.
 
Joe Stenson said:
2 things:

1) Why do you think it would be easier when you're taller?

2) I don't even really notice the incline at all until it gets over 10%.
Longer legs and

I meant 4mph, at 15%
 
Borg4902 said:
If I see one more Jkurtz cardio or diet post, im gonna puke.


the only stupid question is the question never asked....Jkurts has one of the better physics on the board...maybe you should be asking more questions
 
yeah but he always has answer in his head!!!! He is looking for what he wants to hear. Many people do it. I used to.......
 
ANd JKurz please note I am not trying to flame just pointing out the obvious. IMO you have a really good physique, hell I want to be as ripped as you!!! Thats my goal at the moment.
 
maccer said:
yeah but he always has answer in his head!!!! He is looking for what he wants to hear. Many people do it. I used to.......

of course I do...........how can u ask without at least "thinking" you have the answer.....it was a dumb remark, no need to back-track.

Bicep - thanks bro..I would go that far, if you wanna be skinny and ripped, I'll get you there...lol....but mass is my problem right now.
 
Not any more...maybe at my peak....had the callipers done 02/04/05 and I was 7.8%. I've increased the cals 10 fold now and starting to blurr up.......scared to get tested, but prob. around 9%. Maybe it's just water bloat from sitting and drinking and eating all day....my arms and chest are still striated as are my calves. It's amazing that the first thing to really go are the abs.
 
JKurz1 said:
It's amazing that the first thing to really go are the abs.

Not amazing, it's the way the male body works. That's unfortunately where we store fat the easiest (and our lower back too).

And yeah, you're probably just a little more bloated than usual from the extra carbs. KEEP EATING!
 
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