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Once a fighter always a fighter?

Bobber

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I don't think it will ever end damn it. New years eve this little dude calls my girl a bitch and wouldn't apologize so I walk around the table and as i got to him he popped me in the mouth over his girlfriends shoulder. I then proceeded to hit him in the head, which busted him open, and then take him down to the ground to put him to sleep. Well I never got to put him to sleep cause as soon as his his head bounced of the floor the first time everyone jumped in and stopped me.

Was I in the wrong? Can i ever fucking change myself to where I can refrain from fighting?
 
Sounds like he is a fighter to... you're just better at it.

You were in the wrong when you tried to cave his skull in... not for hitting his punk ass back after he hit you.

It seems unnatural... but in this world your response has to be measured and appopriate or you are the bad guy.
 
oh boi. trust me, it happens. It happens a lot of times. Some times at certain situations you must refrain, but you still manage to sink into intoxicating fantasies of combat. Alas that is not always the case.

Sometimes solitude is the best.
 
Nothing to worry about. But once you got him down and out. It is over. UNless, likes a lot of drunken fools he gets up and comes again.

Find a place to fight, a boxing gym, mma gym whatever. Channel your natural aggression and don't worry about the idiots, unless of course they hit you.
 
JH! - I was the bad guy for quite a while after that until everyone found out the cause, but my girl is still "scared if I think it's ok to do that to people."

Smurfy - I don't think so missy.

Subzero - I tried solitude for over a year up here in Maryland man...only time shit happened is when I go out...hmmmm.

Katdav - Principles apply across he board....what I believe and the way I react will remain the same no matter where the fuck I am.

Mountain Muscle - I go back to Texas in 13 days for 5 days. When I get back, barring any glitches, I am starting to train Jiu Jitsu with Pedro Sauer. They say he is the greatest technical teacher from the Gracie camp or somethin like that. I can't wait to be able to fight people!
 
Bobber said:
JH! - I was the bad guy for quite a while after that until everyone found out the cause, but my girl is still "scared if I think it's ok to do that to people."

Smurfy - I don't think so missy.

Subzero - I tried solitude for over a year up here in Maryland man...only time shit happened is when I go out...hmmmm.

Katdav - Principles apply across he board....what I believe and the way I react will remain the same no matter where the fuck I am.

Mountain Muscle - I go back to Texas in 13 days for 5 days. When I get back, barring any glitches, I am starting to train Jiu Jitsu with Pedro Sauer. They say he is the greatest technical teacher from the Gracie camp or somethin like that. I can't wait to be able to fight people!

Nice. bro. It will help seriously. You have to get the mindset of "only in the ring". I still have trouble with that. Takes work. Just dont ever start fights, but if you are hit, finish them. BJJ will make you humble wuickly too. lol.

I just started here under Nate Marquardt, a UFC fighter.

The deciding factor is always whether or not you are willing to take the penalty for fighting anymore. Best to keep it in the gym.
 
Bobber said:
I don't think it will ever end damn it. New years eve this little dude calls my girl a bitch and wouldn't apologize so I walk around the table and as i got to him he popped me in the mouth over his girlfriends shoulder. I then proceeded to hit him in the head, which busted him open, and then take him down to the ground to put him to sleep. Well I never got to put him to sleep cause as soon as his his head bounced of the floor the first time everyone jumped in and stopped me.

Was I in the wrong? Can i ever fucking change myself to where I can refrain from fighting?
shoulda just not gotten in his face bor, yell back at him
 
mountain muscle said:
Help for what? not being a pussy?

You shouldn't feel the need to prove you're not a pussy. You need to ditch the neanderthal mentality, it will get you into trouble one of these times.
 
pdaddy said:
You shouldn't feel the need to prove you're not a pussy. You need to ditch the neanderthal mentality, it will get you into trouble one of these times.

I am just an aggressive person. I have been since I was little. It's called alpha male. Type a peronality.
You assume I cannot control it, and label me a neanderthal.

I have been in plenty of trouble because I refuse to back down.
I have done very well in my career for the same reason.

Focusing that aggression is what people should do. Nothing at all wrong with fighting. The context matters though.
 
Bobber said:
I don't think it will ever end damn it. New years eve this little dude calls my girl a bitch and wouldn't apologize so I walk around the table and as i got to him he popped me in the mouth over his girlfriends shoulder. I then proceeded to hit him in the head, which busted him open, and then take him down to the ground to put him to sleep. Well I never got to put him to sleep cause as soon as his his head bounced of the floor the first time everyone jumped in and stopped me.

Was I in the wrong? Can i ever fucking change myself to where I can refrain from fighting?
For what ever its worth, I have been in several altercations in the past 2 years and I should have walked away.. In Sept I was eating dinner at a nice Restaurant with my girlfriend and she was talking to her mother on the phone about her aunt who had passed away. We got up to leave and the guy in the booth behind us said something and I thought he knew me.. Hell I had just gotten off work and was in my suit. I bent down to shake his hand and he grab my arm and said: I cant believe that let mfers like you in here. I knocked him out.. Now they called the police and arrested me for Assault and Battery.. I had court last week and the judge made me pay $297.00 for his medical bills, fined me $650.00 gave me 18 months supervised probation and 48 hours in jail.. I had a lawyer that I paid $1000.00 to for that.. I wish the fuck I had walked away...
 
mountain muscle said:
I am just an aggressive person. I have been since I was little. It's called alpha male. Type a peronality.
You assume I cannot control it, and label me a neanderthal.

I have been in plenty of trouble because I refuse to back down.
I have done very well in my career for the same reason.

Focusing that aggression is what people should do. Nothing at all wrong with fighting. The context matters though.

Bro, you can still be succesful without having to be physically aggressive. There are reasons why it's against the law to even push or grab someone. I'm not calling you a neanderthal, just the instinct to fight is of that nature. It takes a stronger individual to refrain from fighting then one that flys of the handle when someone looks at them the wrong way.
 
pdaddy said:
Bro, you can still be succesful without having to be physically aggressive. There are reasons why it's against the law to even push or grab someone. I'm not calling you a neanderthal, just the instinct to fight is of that nature. It takes a stronger individual to refrain from fighting then one that flys of the handle when someone looks at them the wrong way.


man, this is the first time that you are not making any sense to me.
 
I agree, but it is situational. I will defend myself and should have a right to. I don't fly off the handle easily, but i have a bad temper. I know that and do everything to avoid conflicts. I am not strong enough to turn the other cheek. every time I have i have gotte hit in the back of the head or jumped.
 
mountain muscle said:
I agree, but it is situational. I will defend myself and should have a right to. I don't fly off the handle easily, but i have a bad temper. I know that and do everything to avoid conflicts. I am not strong enough to turn the other cheek. every time I have i have gotte hit in the back of the head or jumped.

Sounds like you just have some shitty luck, I haven't really ever found myself in that situation, maybe because I always roll deep. Last time I fought was when someone tried to pick-pocket me at the bar. I regret having busted the guy up but at the same time did recieve a bit a satisfaction from it.
 
pdaddy said:
Sounds like you just have some shitty luck, I haven't really ever found myself in that situation, maybe because I always roll deep. Last time I fought was when someone tried to pick-pocket me at the bar. I regret having busted the guy up but at the same time did recieve a bit a satisfaction from it.

Last time I turned the other cheek I got a beer bottle shattered acros my face. I tried to avoid it and the marine wouldn't stop, it actually got worse when I ignored him and his friends started showing up.
I blacked out when he hit me and a mob jumped on me to stop. I had 4 stitches in my lip from the bottle.
He spent the night at the hospital. I should never have been put in that situation.
Since then I don't turn the other cheek.
 
mountain muscle said:
Last time I turned the other cheek I got a beer bottle shattered acros my face. I tried to avoid it and the marine wouldn't stop, it actually got worse when I ignored him and his friends started showing up.
I blacked out when he hit me and a mob jumped on me to stop. I had 4 stitches in my lip from the bottle.
He spent the night at the hospital. I should never have been put in that situation.
Since then I don't turn the other cheek.

What the fuck kind of places are you hanging out at? I frequent dive bars every now and then and have never wittnessed anything like that. In fact it's been a couple of years since I last saw a bar fight. Except for two girls a couple of weeks ago but that doesn't count.
 
pdaddy said:
damn, where did I lose you?

how does it make you a better man to avoid fighting in must fight situation imposed on you?

I did that once, and I just can't get over it. I felt like a wuss.
 
Subzeero said:
how does it make you a better man to avoid fighting in must fight situation imposed on you?

I did that once, and I just can't get over it. I felt like a wuss.

Define a must fight situation? I personally don't think it's ever warranted unless you're defending yourself.
 
pdaddy said:
What the fuck kind of places are you hanging out at? I frequent dive bars every now and then and have never wittnessed anything like that. In fact it's been a couple of years since I last saw a bar fight. Except for two girls a couple of weeks ago but that doesn't count.

The last six years have found me in small towns. Filled with rednecks, cowboys, roughnecks and bikers at the bars. Ever since I handled the guy who hit me the beer bottle I was left alone, for the most part. I have since moved back to Denver.
I don't know what kind of "dive" bars you have been to but the local bars have multiple fights every night where I used to live.
I can't even remember how many fights I have broken up and thrown the guys out for the bartender.
 
pdaddy said:
Define a must fight situation? I personally don't think it's ever warranted unless you're defending yourself.


ahhhhhh... bro, you have a perfectly good point, but reason is lost in the heat of the moment, and that makes a huge difference.
 
mountain muscle said:
The last six years have found me in small towns. Filled with rednecks, cowboys, roughnecks and bikers at the bars. Ever since I handled the guy who hit me the beer bottle I was left alone, for the most part. I have since moved back to Denver.
I don't know what kind of "dive" bars you have been to but the local bars have multiple fights every night where I used to live.
I can't even remember how many fights I have broken up and thrown the guys out for the bartender.

Fuck some rednecks, I'm getting to old for that nonsense. Stay away from those places bro
 
pdaddy said:
Fuck some rednecks, I'm getting to old for that nonsense. Stay away from those places bro

I am brother. I don't go out to the bars,clubs etc but once a month.
LOL at you getting too old. I think I am older than you.

"Must fight situation" for me is the first swing at me.

" I will not be pawwed upon thank you very much."
 
mountain muscle said:
I am brother. I don't go out to the bars,clubs etc but once a month.
LOL at you getting too old. I think I am older than you.

"Must fight situation" for me is the first swing at me.

" I will not be pawwed upon thank you very much."

Yes, if someone swings first that is defending yourself and gives you all the right in the world to pwn him. I will not argue with that in the least.

I've been going out to the bars since I was 15, so I grew out of the scene a minute ago.
 
katdav said:
In nice places people don't generally call each other 'bitches'...just sayin'
Agreed. And if you call some girl a bitch, you gotta expect that her guy won't be appreciative of the lack of animosity you mean to project.
 
Bobber said:
I don't think it will ever end damn it. New years eve this little dude calls my girl a bitch and wouldn't apologize so I walk around the table and as i got to him he popped me in the mouth over his girlfriends shoulder. I then proceeded to hit him in the head, which busted him open, and then take him down to the ground to put him to sleep. Well I never got to put him to sleep cause as soon as his his head bounced of the floor the first time everyone jumped in and stopped me.

Was I in the wrong? Can i ever fucking change myself to where I can refrain from fighting?


I hate jail so it is a big detourant for me. Now if he put his hands on my girl, then it would be different. But calling her a bitch wouldn't bother me much.
 
I was so pissed because I had not had a single altercation since September when that dud ebit a chunk out of my chest. I am just so damn tired of fighting.
 
why did he call your gf a bitch? i called many girls bitches cause they acted like one. example, i said hi to a few girls, yes, i just said hi, and they told me to fuck off, therefore, i replied with, "fuck you too, bitch. i just said hi to you. what's your problem?"
 
Why was your girl called a bitch? Was she a "bitch"? If so, tell her to calm down aa little with the flow of words towards others and maybe you won't get into so many fights.


or She may have done nothing at all and the guy was a total moron. But did "bitch" come out of thin air? Something must have transpired.

I'm super nice to people, especially in public places, clubs etc... If i bump into you, if it'as my fault or not, I say "Sorry" and keep walking. I don't like fighting, I just want to 'look' like I could beat every fucker in the room. lol

No time for that when I could be having anal sexing.
 
She was called a bitch because she was the dealer in Fuck the Dealer and HE guessed the card wrong and had to drink...the guy was a complete douche bag.

Whats the damn deal Rnch?
 
hiya BB.......watching the city slowly rebound and trying to keep faith in my decision to not leave after katrina......how's by you?
 
I used to fight a lot. I try to avoid it as much as possible but there are some assholes out there that won't let you walk away. I was smacked in the face with a beer bottle once too. I have a scar that runs from my right eye all the way down to the front of my throat. Believe me I kicked that guy's ass lol. Jail is a great deterent. As is my profession. For some reason the board of nurse examiners frown upon you getting arrested for bar fighting lol.
 
Arabian said:
For what ever its worth, I have been in several altercations in the past 2 years and I should have walked away.. In Sept I was eating dinner at a nice Restaurant with my girlfriend and she was talking to her mother on the phone about her aunt who had passed away. We got up to leave and the guy in the booth behind us said something and I thought he knew me.. Hell I had just gotten off work and was in my suit. I bent down to shake his hand and he grab my arm and said: I cant believe that let mfers like you in here. I knocked him out.. Now they called the police and arrested me for Assault and Battery.. I had court last week and the judge made me pay $297.00 for his medical bills, fined me $650.00 gave me 18 months supervised probation and 48 hours in jail.. I had a lawyer that I paid $1000.00 to for that.. I wish the fuck I had walked away...

so you knocked him out at a restraunt?
lol maing, did his head fall down into his pasta?
why did he say that to you?
 
i got into an altercasion on New Years too bro....

Fighters are Fighters, and thats that

But i actually was leaving the fight because my clothes were too nice to fight in....

But about 2 months ago, got into a fight on the street corner with thugs who thought they were tough, said something, so i turned around and they surrounded me, so i popped the biggest on in front of me and brawled it out. GOT hit with a beer bottle and got a couple stitches in my head, but neverthe less as the kid was running he was trying to make it into the pizzaria, well, i know the pizza guys my whole life, they say there and let us beat the shit out of him right there....

now

See the same punk we through a BEATEn too that night (pizza place), he sees me, im with my girl, hes with his cousin and friend. Now they start calling me pussy, bitch, blah blah blah, really fucked up shit at one point....

so the entire time im trying to get away, literally trying to walk away, but i ddint want to turn my back to these punks so i ddint leave right away. So he then proceeds to jump over his cousin and swing at me which caused me to snap.

I pushed my girl out of the way, took up a muy thai stance and backed up to get them in front of me. Well one of the grabbed the sweater (the only thing that kept me from fighting) so i ducked out of it and rocked him in his face, i hit him so hard he just fell onto the car and it ended the fight because everyone must have realized they piced the wrong fight.

then as i walking away he said his other cousin was coming to shoot me, i guess a onlooker heard that and called 9-1-1 because as i was leaving there was a ton of cop cars.

Needless to say, my armani sweater was fine and i went to my new years eve party.

But once a fighter its hard NOT to explode. Since i dont see it as a bad think. Its midevil, my mentality is who ever wins is the bigger/better man, but in todays world its a dangerous mentaility with pussies who cant take a loss.....

but once a fighter, always a fighter imho.
 
I dunno but I'm 27 and have yet to get into a fight. I've never even been in a potential fight or situation so it's not like I have had the chance to walk away either.
 
Bobber said:
I don't think it will ever end damn it. New years eve this little dude calls my girl a bitch and wouldn't apologize so I walk around the table and as i got to him he popped me in the mouth over his girlfriends shoulder. I then proceeded to hit him in the head, which busted him open, and then take him down to the ground to put him to sleep. Well I never got to put him to sleep cause as soon as his his head bounced of the floor the first time everyone jumped in and stopped me.

Was I in the wrong? Can i ever fucking change myself to where I can refrain from fighting?

sounds like you need to grow up, control your emotions and put your ego in check.

maybe when you spend a night in jail or go to court over an assault charge you will learn.

no offense buddy, but what if your girlfriend really is a bitch ? if you take an honest look at it, maybe the guy was right.
 
Fuck it bro fight if its who you are. I feel worse if i walk away than if i had either fought, or at least confronted the person. You confronted him, he punched you. He's in the wrong. Drill that motherfucker!!!!
 
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