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**Omnibolic(O-Bol) & AndroGenerator Now Available @ Proteabody!**

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AndroGenerator has four distinct uses:

1.) As a potent anabolic agent to produce increased muscle mass and strength.
2.) As a sexual performance enhancer.
3.) For Post Cycle Therapy following a "steroid cycle".
4.) For use ON CYCLE to increase gains and minimize HPTA inhibition.​


Frequently Asked Questions


1.) Can I use AndroGenerator INSTEAD of Anabolic steroids?

Answer: YES! AndroGenerator is designed to maximally increase total and FREE testosterone levels, decrease cortisol, estrogen, and prolactin, and increase HGH and IGF-1 levels, while simultaneously saturating the muscle cells with a matrix of highly anabolic ingredients. AndroGenerator will ENHANCE HPTA FUNCTION, as opposed to steroids which INHIBIT HPTA FUNCTION. Although certain anabolic steroids are far more potent than AndroGenerator, the natural bodybuilder will definitely appreciate the increase in strength and muscle mass that AndroGenerator will produce. Even steroid users will appreciate the pro-androgenic, muscle building effects of AndroGenerator. There is no other natural product that is capable of what AndroGenerator can do. There is nothing as POWERUL as AndroGenerator for producing lean muscle mass, raw strength, sustained endurance, freaky vascularity, and incredible muscle hardness and definition. The AndroGenerator creates the most ANABOLIC environment possible, by using multiple mechanisms of action and multiple pathways to trigger the greatest gains in lean muscle-mass and strength that can be achieved. There is truly NOTHING on the market that can compare to AndroGenerator's incredible MASS-BUILDING, STRENGTH INDUCING effect. Users can easily expect to put on 5-10 pounds within 4 weeks, and continued gains thereafter. The gains experienced on AndroGenerator are dry and hard, as the user will not experience any water-retention at all. The user can expect a general feeling of well-being, a huge increase in libido, and a healthy increase in aggression.

2.) Can AndroGenerator be used instead of Nolvadex and Clomid?

Answer: AndroGenerator will restore HPTA function quickly, safely, and effectively. AndroGenerator stimulates the HPTA from every angle possible. Not only does AndroGenerator drastically increase TOTAL AND FREE TESTOSTERONE, it also decreases CORTISOL, ESTROGEN. and PROLACTIN, the three primary enemies of HPTA recovery in a post-cycle environment! It is imperative to increase testosterone levels, decrease estrogen, prolactin, and cortisol, and to restore your hormonal balance as swiftly and effectively as possible. AndroGenerator features a unique combination of highly anabolic, pro-androgenic agents that drastically increase endogenous ANDROGEN concentrations while simultaneously reducing prolactin and balancing progesterone and Estrogen. You will NEVER use Clomid or Nolvadex again! Nothing else can do this. To FURTHER support an enhanced anabolic state, AndroGenerator supports strength and muscle mass by increasing HGH and IGF-1 levels, while simultaneously saturating the muscle cells with a matrix of highly anabolic ingredients. Clomid and Nolvadex can be used in conjunction with AndroGenerator, and of course, an Aromatase Inhibitor.

3.) Can AndroGenerator prevent HPTA SHUTDOWN & INCREASE GAINS ON CYCLE?

Answer: YES, AndroGenerator will minimize HPTA inhibition and increase your gains on cycle. AndroGenerator will MINIMIZE HPTA INHIBITION, through several different mechanisms. During a steroid cycle, the testicles SHRINK. This is known as testicular atrophy. The testicles shrink as a result of being "SHUTDOWN". They are not functioning to produce testosterone, because the body has ceased all endogenous androgen production as a result of detecting exogenous hormones. AndroGenerator is so powerful and effective, it will actually PREVENT HPTA SHUTDOWN from ocurring while ON CYCLE! While on cycle, the body's natural production of testosterone(and LH) becomes suppressed. Just like HCG, AndroGenerator signals the Pituitary to secrete LH, which subsequently causes the testicles to produce more testosterone. This increase in LH and subsequently testosterone, maintains testicular mass and function while on anabolic steroids. AndroGenerator also decreases PROLACTIN, which is the primary sex hormone responsible for "HPTA sensitivity". Prolactin is a nasty hormone that will cause the HPTA to SHUTDOWN almost immediately, which is why steroids such as Deca and Tren are so suppressive to HPTA function. By decreasing prolactin, we can decrease HPTA sensitivity and further minimize total HPTA inhibition experienced while on cycle. Running AndroGenerator with a mild steroid such as Anavar, Dianabol, or Epistane, will result in virtually no HPTA inhibition at all. Including Androgenerator in your full cycle will result in much less HPTA inhibition and of course, much GREATER GAINS while on cycle, due to the pro-androgenic, muscle-building effect of AndroGenerator.

4.) Does AndroGenerator increase sexual performance?

Answer: YES! Although permanent penile increases have never been substantiated in a clinical setting, many users have reported substantial increases is penile length and girth, as well as a large increase in libido, erection strength, ejaculatory volume, and genital sensitivity, from the main ingredients in AndroGenerator, "LJ100" and "Protodioscin". Many of these aphrodisiac effects have been documented with the active ingredients in Androgenerator and over a dozen clinical trials in Malaysia have demonstrated the pro-androgenic, pro-sexual effect of LJ100. AndroGenerator contains the ONLY natural ingredients shown to increase PENIS SIZE! LJ100 and Protodiocin function mutually to increase blood flow and oxygen to the penis, while simultaneously increasing Testosterone(the male hormone) production at the testicular level. As the male hormone, it is directly responsible for a myriad of cognitive, physical, and psycholgical characteristics that we as males possess. Testosterone increases sexual appetite, vigor, stamina, potency, and fertility. Testosterone increases muscle mass and strength, and restores youthfulness and well-being. Increased testosterone levels translates into an increase in "masculine" characterstics and behavior. AndroGenerator contains the potent ingredients LJ100 and Protodiocin, which not only increase total testosterone production, total free testosterone, and enhance the testosterone to estrogen ratio, but they also directly stimulate the testicles, increase oxygen and bloodflow to the penis, and strengthen the penile muscles responsible for ejaculation and genital control. Sustained penis size increases have been reported, and have been confirmed anecdotally by thousands. AndroGenerator will definitely give you the EDGE in the bedroom that you are looking for.

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The active anabolic ingredient in Omnibolic is the known steroid, Ecdysterone. Imported directly from Russia, the Ecdysterone in this product is extracted from Rhaponticum carthamoides and is guaranteed to be 98% (or higher) pure. This (and only this) remarkable plant extract, (at this potency), has been proven in numerous clinical studies to be more anabolic than methandrostenolone (Dianabol), with no androgenic or other undesirable side effects. Omnibolic is a non-hormonal dietary supplement that will cause a huge increase in anabolism but will not effect hormone levels.

Omnibolic works by increasing nitrogen retention and increasing protein synthesis at the cellular level (for this reason we strongly recommend that you increase your daily dietary intake of protein while using this product). It has been scientifically proven, without a doubt, that increased nitrogen retention and resistance training will stimulate muscle growth and burn fat as much as 20 times more effective than without the increase in nitrogen retention caused by ecdysterone supplementation.

The Russian ingredients in Omnibolic have also been clinically proven to increase in strength and endurance. This is the same exact ingredient that the Russian government gave to its athletes prior to competitions in order to optimize performance while coming off anabolic steroids to beat doping tests. Strangely enough, many Russian athletes performed better in competition while using Ecdysterone than they did in preparation while on anabolic steroids.

If you are wondering why you have never heard of Ecdysterone before it is because this information has been somewhat classified until the collapse of the Soviet Union and since then it has been way too expensive (over $20,000 a kilo) to bring real Ecdysterone from Rhaponticum carthamoides to market. UNTIL NOW!

This is the first time ever that this material is being made available and you have our guarantee that nothing you have ever tried will work better than Omnibolic for adding lean muscle mass. Because Omnibolic is a non-hormonal supplement it can be safely used by both men and women. The Ecdysterone in this product is Ecdypure TM material, guaranteed to be 98% or higher pure Ecdysterone. Omnibolic will not cause a positive test result for any banned or controlled substance. Omnibolic is a 100% safe and legal dietary supplement.

Ecdysterone has also been shown to be an adaptogen. This basically means that it has other physiological advantages in addition to increasing muscular development. Part of the advantage of this product includes an increase in mental, physical and immunological capacity. The pioneer studies were conducted by Professor Vladimir Syrov of the Research Institute of Plant Substance of Chemistry, Academy of Science of Uzbekistan, and specifically proved that the ecdysterone derived from Rhaponticum carthamoides possessed anabolic properties in both animals and humans. His original work was done primarily with Rhaponticum carthamoides.



6-Keto Diosgenin (25R-Spirost-4-ene-3,6-diol)


Dr. Syrov and Dr. A.J. Kurmukov published a study entitled, "The Experimental Study of the Anabolic Activities of the 6-Keto Derivatives of Some Natural Sapogenins", in which they analyzed the various sterol compounds from these plant sources. They found several adaptogens in addition to the beta-ecdysterone, including agigenin, disogenin and alliogenin, all of which displayed further anabolic activity, but none of which displayed androgenic properties. This basically means that this group of sapogenins do not have any influence in elevating or decreasing the testosterone levels of the person taking them. This is precisely what the Russians wanted, since they were having several of the world class athletes fail urine tests in international competition because they were taking synthetic steroids. What Dr. Syrov and his colleagues further showed was a dramatic improvement in liver, kidney, heart and muscular activity, and a dramatic increase in the total amount of protein found within these organs. In other words, there is an increase in protein synthesis in all of the major organs of the body, including muscular tissue, with no effect on the hormonal activity of the body. This is remarkable and exciting because it thus poses no threat to the individual in terms of toxicity and/or the capacity to increase existing cancers. As a matter of fact, several South American physicians have used this compound extensively to battle cancer and even a very difficult disease known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which is normally considered to be a viral infection.

How Does Ecdysterone Work?

In each cell there are 3 forms of ribonucleic acid (RNA) which are involved in the production of protein. All of this protein synthesis occurs at the level of the ribosome. Basically, the process involves 3 states:

1. Ribosomal RNA (rRNA) gives instructions to the poly-ribosomal complex to join together specific ribosomes into forming a complex (group). This is the manufacturing facility where the proteins and muscle tissue are formed.

2. Messenger RNA (mRNA) travels from the nucleus where it has received the specific genetic code on how to make a specific protein. This is very much like a reel-to-reel tape going through a computer in which specific instructions are being given at an extremely rapid rate. The mRNA travels into the poly-ribosomal complex and runs across the ribosomes, giving specific instructions which result in exact sequences of the 22 different amino acids being placed together to form a specific protein (muscle).

3. Transfer RNA (tRNA) then move the amino acids to the ribosomes so as to allow the mRNA tape to hook up the individual amino acids to form the polypeptides (protein chains).


Realize that the Russian and Japanese scientists determined the specific location of Ecdysterone's actions were at the level at which the transfer RNA translates amino acids into proteins at the ribosomes. Thus, Ecdysterone increases the rate at which proteins are manufactured. Synthetic steroids affect the instructions from the nucleus, called transcription. This can pose a problem in that, if one has hormonally sensitive cancer, it can increase the rate of cancer growth within the body. Ecdysterone, on the other hand, affects the translation of amino acids into protein, which does not influence the rate of growth of cancers. This makes the Ecdysterone products totally safe, having no effect on the hormonal levels of the body. Researchers have proven that beta-ecdysterone has no side effects, except that it improves liver function, kidney function, heart function, muscle size and physical performance. Because of the other sapogenins within the herbal complex there may even be other medicinal benefits which can help an individual, such as anti-viral, anti-bacterial and immune stimulating properties.



Citrulline Malate


Citrulline, although a non-essential amino acid, is not widely abundant in our daily diet. However, it plays a vital role in many important biological processes.

1. Increased NO Production

Of specific interest to all of us athletes in the trenches is it's role of regulating Nitric Oxide (NO). I mention this first only because the sport nutrition industry has been recently flooded with NO potentiating products comprised of L-Arginine and / or other Arginine salts, which until this day have been the most cost effective manner in improving NO function. It is well known in the scientific community that L-Arginine is a substrate for production of Nitric Oxide2, as well as catalyst for other metabolic reactions including its effects on insulin, various hormones and creatine synthesis.3



(The NO synthase (NOS) enzymes convert Arginine into Citrulline and NO)

So what is NO and what can it do for you? Nitric oxide is the cell-sign****g molecule that has a part in regulating blood flow, oxygen delivery, glucose uptake, muscle firepower, and muscle growth. Obviously the ability to control these physiological effects can be of tremendous value to athletes.

Unfortunately I think many of the companies currently marketing NO products are missing the boat by not including Citrulline Malate in the current crop of NO supplements. You see, many of Citrulline's functions stem primarily from its ability to increase plasma levels of Arginine endogenously (in the human body).4 And what is really so exciting about Citrulline is that it seems to increase plasma Arginine levels better than taking the amino acid Arginine itself.5 You read correctly!

Research has shown that supplementation of Citrulline raises Arginine levels more effectively than taking the same dose of straight Arginine. Keep in mind that Citrulline Malate's NO enhancing properties are just one of the unique benefits this nutrient offers to athletes. And if the enhanced pumps and improved nutrient delivery properties are the reason you are using Arginine based NO products, you need to pay attention to Citrulline Malate.

2. Reduces Lactic Acid and Ammonia


Here is something else you need to know about Citrulline... it is an intermediate in the Urea Cycle. The Urea Cycle is a system in the liver of carrier molecules and enzymes that convert nitrogenous wastes into urea and eliminates them from the body. The production and removal of urea is essential for the elimination of ammonia and toxic nitrogen metabolites. Ammonia is extremely toxic to all cells and excessive levels may even be fatal. Even in healthy athletes, the build up of ammonia can lead to extreme fatigue and more.6 It also reduces glycogen formation, and inhibits the energy cycle. Obviously this is what every athlete wants to avoid!

Unfortunately all exercise, anaerobic and aerobic exercise produces tons of this stuff.7 Ammonia also forms when bacteria in the intestinal tract breaks down protein. The point is that the more ammonia in your blood, the poorer your athletic performance.8 Citrulline Malate comes to the rescue once again by aiding in the elimination of amino acid byproducts of protein metabolism. Researchers also purpose that Citrulline Malate may help to eliminate the burn associated with lactic acid build up as well as reduce the negative effects of ammonia and bacterial endo toxins on performance. Demonstrations also show Citrulline Malate as having a protective effect against acidosis and ammonnia poisoning.12 The metabolic actions of Citrulline Malate clearly explain the anti-fatigue properties in man and shows great promise to its uses as a performance enhancer for athletes.

The Urea cycle splits Arginine into Ornithine and Urea. The urea is excreted as a waste product. Citrulline is synthesized from the Ornithine and carbamoyl phosphate. Citrulline is then converted back to Arginine.

3. Increases ATP and Phosphocreatine Recovery

No doubt there is a lot to get excited about when it comes to the performance enhancing potential of Citrulline Malate and how it works. Another study showed yet another way Citrulline Malate can benefit athletes - by increasing aerobic energy production.9 Studies show subjects using Citrulline Malate have an increase in the rate of muscle ATP (Andenosine Triphosphate, the major energy source within the cell) production during exercise and greater phosphocreatine recovery after exercise. So taking Citrulline Malate may result in muscles that can keep on going and going... completely smashing the aerobic threshold! These effects are more than likely mediated by the malate portion of the Citrulline Malate compound, which is a Krebs Cycle intermediate.

The Krebs Cycle refers to a portion of the metabolic pathway of amino acids in the conversion of sugars and fats into ATP, and the role of friendly bacteria (mitochondria) in our cells. The Krebs Cycle happens in the mitochondria, where sugar and fat pour in and are burned much like in a blast furnace, with a number of weak amino acids acting as a conveyor belt. Impaired ability to make ATP results in premature fatigue and "hitting the wall", unable to continue intense exercise.

Getting back to malate, it appears that it is synergistic when bonded to citrulline and this peptide may work better than supplementation of citrulline alone.10 While citrulline acts to increase NO and reduce performance inhibiting metabolic toxins, malate conditions the recycling of lactate and pyruvate, and takes part in the kreb cycle supplying instant and sustained energy.



Scientific Studies


Ecdysterone has been tested for its effects on work capacity, immune function, lean body mass and fat loss, among other variables in a number of scientific studies. The vast majority of research indicates an increase in test subjects' lean mass. Results were further improved when ecdysterone was consumed with protein.

Increase Protein Synthesis and Invoke Positive Nitrogen Balance:

Studies conducted in the Soviet Union in 1988 showed ecdysterone helps "increase hepatic protein synthesis and subsequently promote positive nitrogen balance!" How does this lead to more muscle mass? Simply: "the more nitrogen your body maintains and the greater rate of protein synthesis, the more mass, period." How, exactly, does ecdysterone do this?

V. Smetanin, researcher of the Smolenk State Medical Institute in Russia speculates that ecdysterone decreases urea concentration in the body and increases hemoglobin levels by increasing a process called erythropoiesis. Erythropoiesis is the development of mature red blood cells. This leads to a stimulation of the anabolic process in protein metabolism, which in turn leads to a positive nitrogen balance in the body.


Increase Lean Muscle Mass While Reducing Body Fat:

The most often quoted ecdysterone scientific study was published in Scientific Sports Bulletin by S. Simakin in 1988. The objective of Simakin's famous study was to determine the effect of ecdysterone on muscle tissue mass and fat mass, while testing for hormonal changes in the subjects.

For the study, three control factors were used: a placebo, protein, and ecdysterone with protein. The results were significantly in favor of the third factor. Of the 78 highly trained male and female athletes who consumed just protein, they showed only a slight increase in muscle mass for the 10 day period of time.

Those who used a placebo lost a slight amount of lean muscle, while those who used protein plus ecdysterone showed a 6-7% increase in lean muscle tissue with nearly a 10% reduction in fat! Let me say that again: A 10% reduction in fat and a 7% increase in lean muscle tissue in just 10 days! Safety testing was conducted during the same time period which showed no difference in hormonal balance. Wow, if ecdysterone plus protein can do this for highly trained athletes, just think what it can do for the average person!


Increase Stamina, Endurance, And Energy:

Ecdysterone was tested in another study performed in 1986 by B.Ya Smetanin. For this research, 117 highly trained speed skaters between the ages of 18 and 28 were tested for work capacity, body weight, lung capacity and VO2 max. The results speak for themselves: all of the said parameters increased as well as an increase in the O2 pulse max and an increase in the exhalation of CO2.

Basically, they received more oxygen to their cells! This equates to decreasing recovery time, maximizing performance, permitting optimal muscle anabolism and maximum fat reduction. It also means the athletes using ecdysterone compared to those on a placebo experienced increased stamina, endurance and energy.

That's not all! A study conducted using 112 athletes performed by B.G. Fadeev in Russia showed some very impressive overall results. However, by this time, the results should come as no surprise. 89% of those who supplemented with ecdysterone versus a placebo reported less fatigue, greater performance, more motivation, greater speed, and improved strength. How long did it take before these athletes reported these effects? Months? Weeks? No, five days. To make matters even better, no adverse side effects were reported.

Ecdysterone compared to methandrostenolone (D-Bol):

The action of methandrostenolone and ecdysterone on the physical endurance of animals and on protein metabolism in the skeletal muscles.

Author:
Chermnykh NS ; Shimanovski¨i NL ; Shutko GV ; Syrov VN
Farmakol Toksikol, 51(6):57-60 1988 Nov-Dec

Abstract:
The results of the comparative study on the myotropic activity of methandrostenolone and ecdysterone and their effects on physical endurance of animals suggested that ecdysterone possessing a wider spectrum of the anabolic action on the contractile proteins of the skeletal muscles exerts a more pronounced influence on physical endurance of animals without their preliminary training.



This study shows anabolic effects with no androgenic effects as compared to D-bol:

Anabolic activity of phytoecdysone-ecdysterone isolated from Rhaponticum carthamoides.

Author:
Syrov VN ; Kurmukov AG
Farmakol Toksikol, 39(6):690-3 1976 Nov-Dec

Abstract:
Introduction of phytiexdizone-exdisterone (0.5 mg/100 g) to rats for 7 days is shown to be attended by an accelerated body weight gain and also by a rising weight of the liver, heart, kidneys and musculus tibialis anterior. In these organs the total amount of protein increases. All of the above-stated changes are more marked when the substance is given to growing rats (70--80 g). In experiments on castrated sexually immature rats the androgenic action of exdisterone, unlike that of methandrostenolone, is not demonstrable.



Positive insulin response:

The effect of nerobol and ecdysterone on insulin-dependent processes linked normally and in insulin resistance

Author:
Kosovski¨i MI ; Syrov VN ; Mirakhmedov MM ; Katkova SP ; Khushbaktova ZA
Probl Endokrinol (Mosk), 35(5):77-81 1989 Sep-Oct

Abstract:
The effect of substances with anabolic activity (metandienone and ecdysterone phytoecdysteroid) on the manifestation of insulin effects was studied on a model of insulin resistance in rats induced by injections of hydrocortisone or by insulin insufficiency caused by alloxan. The sensitivity of the body to i. v. infusion of insulin and the reactivity of isolated fatty tissue to the hormone were increased after administration of these substances to test animals. The above effects of steroids were determined by nonspecific synthesis of total proteins in cells rather than by an increase in insulin secretion.



Also a very very strong adaptogen and antioxidant:

Antioxidant effect of 20-hydroxyecdysone in a model system

Kuz'menko AI - Ukr Biokhim Zh - 1999 May-Jun; 71(3): 35-8

Original Title:
Izuchenie antiokislitel'nogo effekta 20-gidroksiekdizona v model'noi sisteme.

Abstract:
Changes in the level of lipid free-radical oxidation in mitochondrial fraction at the presence of 20-hydroxyecdysone in 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 microM concentration with the help of a chemiluminescence (ChL) method were investigated in vitro. Statistically authentic reduction of ChL kinetic parameters--I(s) and tg alpha, at 20-hydroxyecdysone presence in concentration of 2 microM was found. 20-hydroxyecdysone administration in concentration 4 microM and more leads to the statistically authentic change of all four ChL parameters. The antioxidizing effect of 20-hydroxyecdysone was compared with action of such antioxidant as a hydroquinone. The higher activity of 20-hydroxyecdysone as an antioxidant in comparison with the hydroquinone was shown. For changes of all four measured kinetic parameters of ChL, concentration of the hydroquinone as much 2-fold than for 20-hydroxyecdysone is necessary. On the basis of our researches in the model system a conclusion was made that 20-hydroxyecdysone has an antioxidizing action on lipid free radical oxidation in mitochondrial fraction in dependents on concentration. 20-Hydroxyecdysone has antioxidizing properties directly, in these conditions in vitro, when its metabolites formation does not occur yet.



Insect hormones in vertebrates: anabolic effects of 20-hydroxyecdysone in Japanese quail.

Slama K - Experientia - 1996 Jul 15; 52(7): 702-6

Authors:
Slama K; Koudela K; Tenora J; Mathova A

Abstract:
Ecdysteroids are hormones controlling cell proliferation, growth and the developmental cycles of insects and other invertebrates. They are occasionally present in various unrelated plants for no apparent reason; no phytohormonal function has yet been identified. In certain cases, ecdysteroids are accumulated to high levels in leaves, roots or seeds. Some ecdysteroid-containing plants have been known as medicinal plants for centuries. One of them, Leuzea carthamoides Iljin (Asteraceae), growing in Central Asia, contains 0.4% ecdysteroid in dry roots and 2% in seeds. A pharmacological preparation from this plant, "Ecdisten', is already available as a commercial preparation for its anabolic, tonic and other effects, for medical use (review). It remained problematic, however, whether ecdysteroids were truly responsible for these effects, because Leuzea contains a number of other biologically active compounds in addition to ecdysteroids. We extracted and purified ecdysteroids from the seeds of Leuzea. With 6 g of 96% 20-hydroxyecdysone (20E), we made a large-scale feeding assay with Japanese quail to find out whether ecdysteroid alone could duplicate the anabolic effects of the seeds. We found that the 96% ecdysteroid increased the mass of the developing quails in a dose-dependent manner, with the rate of increase proportional to the ecdysteroid content in the seeds; there was a 115% increase in living mass with 100 mg kg-1 of pure 20E compared with 109.5% increase with 100-180 mg kg-1 20E equivalents in the seeds. We conclude that the plethora of growth-promoting, vitamin-like effects induced in vertebrates by Leuzea is mediated by ecdysteroids.


Study demonstrating the Anabolic effect of 6-Keto Diosgenin

[Experimental study of the anabolic activity of 6-ketoderivatives of certain natural sapogenins][Article in Russian]


Syrov VN, Kurmukov AG.
It is shown that 6-ketoderivatives of natural sapogenins, viz. agigenin, diosgenin and alliogenin, display the anabolic activity and do not manifest any androgenic properties. The compoud IV/(25 R)-5alpha-spirostan-2alpha, 3beta, 5alpha-triol-6-OH/produces an accelerated gain of weight in rats, and also an increase in the weight of the liver, heart, kidneys, musculus tibiliasis anterior and augments the total amount of protein therein. All of the above-mentioned changes become more pronounced with the study substance introduced to young animals. Castration of sexually immature rats greatly mitigates the anabolic effect of the compound IV.

PMID: 1028596 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
the_alcatraz said:
Post is too long dude. One question: Is this a pro-hormone?

There are TWO producs, AndroGenerator and Omnibolic, both of which are NOT prohormones or designer steroids.
 
Ross said:
There are TWO producs, AndroGenerator and Omnibolic, both of which are NOT prohormones or designer steroids.

Props on the product not being a pro-hormone. However, no offense dude, but the ARE NO STEROID ALTERNATIVES PERIOD.

It does sound like a good product though.

Edit: they are two products - they look solid.
 
Another product claiming to put on 10lbs in 4 weeks, 10% reduction in body fat in 10 days and a 7% increase in LBM?....Seriously...Come on. If this was true the whole world would be lean, cut, shredded and all other words meaning the same.

Those claims are worse than LATE NIGHT TV ADS. Cant the claims at LEAST be a little more, oh I dont know, realistic?

So ROSS, you are basically saying that YOU NEVER need REAL AAS again right? You have a product that can add 10lbs every 4 weeks and shred 10% bf in 10 days AND all of your PCT is covered.

*Cough Cough*

So whos going to be the FIRST to do a log on these products...?!

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Another product claiming to put on 10lbs in 4 weeks, 10% reduction in body fat in 10 days and a 7% increase in LBM?....Seriously...Come on. If this was true the whole world would be lean, cut, shredded and all other words meaning the same.

Those claims are worse than LATE NIGHT TV ADS. Cant the claims at LEAST be a little more, oh I dont know, realistic?

So ROSS, you are basically saying that YOU NEVER need REAL AAS again right? You have a product that can add 10lbs every 4 weeks and shred 10% bf in 10 days AND all of your PCT is covered.

*Cough Cough*

So whos going to be the FIRST to do a log on these products...?!

-Legacy

Supreme Sports Enhancements has been in business for over a year and HUNDREDS of logs have been conducted all over the internet, do a simple GOOGLE search on "AndroGenerator" or "Omnibolic".

Second of all, you MISREAD the studies: it says drop 10% of the fat you have-- not a total Bodyfat% of 10%. NOT THE SAME THING. Furthermore, a 7% increase in muscle is not a 7lb increase in muscle.

I will send out some FREE BOTTLES nonetheless, I love SKEPTICS. :)
 
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The active anabolic ingredient in Omnibolic is the known steroid, Ecdysterone. Imported directly from Russia, the Ecdysterone in this product is extracted from Rhaponticum carthamoides and is guaranteed to be 98% (or higher) pure. This (and only this) remarkable plant extract, (at this potency), has been proven in numerous clinical studies to be more anabolic than methandrostenolone (Dianabol), with no androgenic or other undesirable side effects. Omnibolic is a non-hormonal dietary supplement that will cause a huge increase in anabolism but will not effect hormone levels.


hmmmm. a tough one to sallow.

I'll stick to my Dbol.

Still, I gotta give our sponsors respect where it is due. Coming up with more products to better our cause of attaining the bodies we dream of.
 
Ross said:
Supreme Sports Enhancements has been in business for over a year and HUNDREDS of logs have been conducted all over the internet, do a simple GOOGLE search on "AndroGenerator" or "Omnibolic".

I will send out some FREE BOTTLES nonetheless, I love SKEPTICS. :)


Ok Ross, ask OMEGA and Primordial Performance, I am the FIRST to give a product a chance and give a non-biased review. Those two companies do NOT make WILD claims, all they say is that their stuff works.

I WILL NEVER say someone is a liar or WRONG without giving them a 100% effort into giving them a SERIOUS shot, but your claims seem a little far fetched, HONESTLY at first read.

-Legacy

PS: Edited for good ole' ROSS. :Popcorn:
 
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DJLegacy2k1 said:
Ok Ross, ask OMEGA and Primordial Performance, I am the FIRST to give a product a chance and give a non-biased review. Those two companies do NOT make WILD claims, all they say is that their stuff works.

I find it hard to beleive that I can drop 10% body fat and add 7 lbs of muscle, all hard and keepable in 10 DAYS. Seriously? Do you stand behind this an the AVERAGE results for EVERYONE?

All of this without any REAL PCT other than YOUR products?

I WILL NEVER say someone is a liar or WRONG without giving them a 100% effort into giving them a SERIOUS shot, but your claims seem a little far fetched, HONESTLY at first read.

-Legacy

Supreme Sports Enhancements DOES make WILD CLAIMS, because our products produce WILD RESULTS.

EVERYONE experiences incredible results, LOGS speak for themselves. We even offer a 100% Money Back GUARANTEE.

I will send you a bottle of each my friend, PM me your details.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Ok Ross, ask OMEGA and Primordial Performance, I am the FIRST to give a product a chance and give a non-biased review. Those two companies do NOT make WILD claims, all they say is that their stuff works.

I find it hard to beleive that I can drop 10% body fat and add 7 lbs of muscle, all hard and keepable in 10 DAYS. Seriously? Do you stand behind this an the AVERAGE results for EVERYONE?

All of this without any REAL PCT other than YOUR products?

I WILL NEVER say someone is a liar or WRONG without giving them a 100% effort into giving them a SERIOUS shot, but your claims seem a little far fetched, HONESTLY at first read.

-Legacy


+1


that's physically impossible for a human body.



EDIT: Damnit Legacy, it say drop 10% of the fat you have. not a total BF% of 10%. Totally different things.

AND, a 7% increase in muscle, not 7 lbs. damn man, can't be criticizing our sponsors when you didn't read it right bro.
 
I PMed ROSS now. Im sure me and him will have a nice convo and try to get some of these facts cleared up.

You can do a search for OMNIBOLIC logs, there are people saying that they like the strength and pumps. I havent found any 10% and 7 lbs in 10 days yet, but I havent found too many people completely TRASHING the product either.

Im still doing my research right now.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
I PMed ROSS now. Im sure me and him will have a nice convo and try to get some of these facts cleared up.

You can do a search for OMNIBOLIC logs, there are people saying that they like the strength and pumps. I havent found any 10% and 7 lbs in 10 days yet, but I havent found too many people completely TRASHING the product either.

Im still doing my research right now.

-Legacy

See my post EDIT



EDIT: Damnit Legacy, it say drop 10% of the fat you have. not a total BF% of 10%. Totally different things.

AND, a 7% increase in muscle, not 7 lbs. Bro, you can't be criticizing our sponsors when you didn't read it right bro.
 
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LOL,

OK OK, mis-read.

So in other words, if you have 20lbs of fat on you, you can lose 2lbs in 10 days?...So it really isnt even a DECENT claim seeing as cardio and a clean diet can do more than that alone?

So we now went from HUGE claims, down to what 30mins on a bike while watching sports center can do :-)

Now it sounds more realistic! :-P

-Legacy
 
PS: I dont criticize, I QUESTION. There havent been any sponsors on here saying "MY PRODUCT BEATS D-BOL" around lately to QUESTION.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
LOL,

OK OK, mis-read.

So in other words, if you have 20lbs of fat on you, you can lose 2lbs in 10 days?...So it really isnt even a DECENT claim seeing as cardio and a clean diet can do more than that alone?

So we now went from HUGE claims, down to what 30mins on a bike while watching sports center can do :-)

Now it sounds more realistic! :-P

-Legacy

You still misunderstand;

That study was conducted on a LOW dosage of Ecdysterone--just ONE of the 4 powerful ingredients contained in Omnibolic.

Add a HIGHER dosage of Ecdysterone, along with the 6-Keto Diosgenin(25-RDiol), the Citrulline Malate and the *patented Biperine, and THEN YOU HAVE Omnibolic--an extremely powerful non-hormonal bodybuilding product that will produce incredible gains in lean muscle mass, strength, endurance and vascularity.
 
Alrighty,

So it seems that all of the logs on these products are on the products forums themselves.

Is there anyone here on ELITE that have used these products? Just curious.

The other logs I found online seem to be copied to or from the Product forums.

Id be interested in hearing some feedback from some of the guys here, if there is anyone that has tried any of the products or researched them.

-Legacy
 
Ross what did you do to piss people off on some of these other boards? Im finding some real hatred towards you lol.

Hopefully things go better for you over here,again, lets all be POSITIVE!

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Alrighty,

So it seems that all of the logs on these products are on the products forums themselves.

Is there anyone here on ELITE that have used these products? Just curious.

The other logs I found online seem to be copied to or from the Product forums.

Id be interested in hearing some feedback from some of the guys here, if there is anyone that has tried any of the products or researched them.

-Legacy

Are you a member on OLM or M&M? We sponsor those forums as well, both of which have tons of great logs.
 
Ross said:
Second of all, you MISREAD the studies: it says drop 10% of the fat you have-- not a total Bodyfat% of 10%. NOT THE SAME THING. Furthermore, a 7% increase in muscle is not a 7lb increase in muscle.


Yeah guys you misread, a 7% increase in muscle, not 7 lbs. So, for me at 220 lbs. x 7% = 15.4 lbs.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many people here weigh 100 lbs? Because that's where your 7% would only = 7 lbs.

It's BETTER than 7 lbs.!!!!!!! It's twice as good for most of you!!!!! ORDER AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

lolololo...come on guys, I can't believe no one caught that, then you're all sitting there going, "oh, yeah 7%, not 7 lbs." Like 7% is somehow less??

Jesus, I need to come up with some shit to sell you gullible fools.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
So ROSS, you are basically saying that YOU NEVER need REAL AAS again right?
-Legacy

Kind of the impression I was getting too. If these things work better than dbol and sound like they're a whole steroid cycle and PCT all in 2 OTC products, and I can gain 15 lbs. in 10 days, why use steroids ever again?

Then I remembered Ross' thread about the Best Anabolic Steroids, and thought, "wait a minute, Ross still uses steroids." I guess these can't really be better than dbol, or even come close.
 
ceo said:
Kind of the impression I was getting too. If these things work better than dbol and sound like they're a whole steroid cycle and PCT all in 2 OTC products, and I can gain 15 lbs. in 10 days, why use steroids ever again?

Then I remembered Ross' thread about the Best Anabolic Steroids, and thought, "wait a minute, Ross still uses steroids." I guess these can't really be better than dbol, or even come close.

I was wondering when u would show up.
 
ceo said:
Yeah guys you misread, a 7% increase in muscle, not 7 lbs. So, for me at 220 lbs. x 7% = 15.4 lbs.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many people here weigh 100 lbs? Because that's where your 7% would only = 7 lbs.

It's BETTER than 7 lbs.!!!!!!! It's twice as good for most of you!!!!! ORDER AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

lolololo...come on guys, I can't believe no one caught that, then you're all sitting there going, "oh, yeah 7%, not 7 lbs." Like 7% is somehow less??

Jesus, I need to come up with some shit to sell you gullible fools.

+1. Very good post. What CEO is saying makes sense. The claims are somewhat unrealistic. Steroids and a good diet can get this done. Nothing else.
 
ceo said:
Yeah guys you misread, a 7% increase in muscle, not 7 lbs. So, for me at 220 lbs. x 7% = 15.4 lbs.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many people here weigh 100 lbs? Because that's where your 7% would only = 7 lbs.

It's BETTER than 7 lbs.!!!!!!! It's twice as good for most of you!!!!! ORDER AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

lolololo...come on guys, I can't believe no one caught that, then you're all sitting there going, "oh, yeah 7%, not 7 lbs." Like 7% is somehow less??

Jesus, I need to come up with some shit to sell you gullible fools.


God damnit people, use your heads.

That doesn't make sense at all CEO. If you weigh 220 lbs, not all of that weight is muscle , lol. Say you have 70 lbs of lean mass and 150lbs of fat bone, and guts on you, a 7% increase in muscle tissue would be about 4 lbs of lean mass, which still is not possible in 10 days but not an outlandish claim like you say it is. Take a chill pill.

FYI people I haven't ever used this product, nor do I intend to, so don't think I am some way connected to Ross either for defending his products. I'm just being fair.
 
the_alcatraz said:
+1. Very good post. What CEO is saying makes sense. The claims are somewhat unrealistic. Steroids and a good diet can get this done. Nothing else.


No, not a good post, a very flawed post.
 
I also want to know if why these prducts work so well, no sites that dont sponsor him, have any reviews on the products.

BB and such HATE ROSS it seems and that seems to go for every other site that he is banned at.

But yet the products websites and sposors are all POSITIVE. Seems highly fishy either way.

-Legacy

PS: Plus it looks like almost every was done by people who used FREE bottles that were sent to them.
 
dabuffguy said:
God damnit people, use your heads.

That doesn't make sense at all CEO. If you weigh 220 lbs, not all of that weight is muscle , lol. Say you have 70 lbs of lean mass and 150lbs of fat bone, and guts on you, a 7% increase in muscle tissue would be about 4 lbs of lean mass, which still is not possible in 10 days but not an outlandish claim like you say it is. Take a chill pill.

FYI people I haven't ever used this product, nor do I intend to, so don't think I am some way connected to Ross either for defending his products. I'm just being fair.

70 lbs? Probably more. Forgive me, it was very late when I wrote my other posts.

Say I'm a lean 220: (-20lbs fat), cut my head off (-10lbs), hang me upside down and drain my blood (-10lbs), peel off my skin Hannibal Lechter style (-10lbs), slice open my abdomen and pull all my intestines, stomach, liver, kidneys, heart, lungs, etc. out (-30lbs), de-bone me like a chicken and toss aside my skeleton (-30lbs).

That leaves me around 110 lbs of consumable flesh (hungry?). Now...IF you dried me out like beef jerky, then you'll probably get that dried out flesh to 70lbs, maybe a little less. But, let's not go that far.

So, I'm 110lbs of pure lean muscle, x 7% = 7.7lbs.

There's your 7lbs.

So Ross is telling me that if I take these pills that I can gain 7 lbs. in 10 days? Sign me up!

If this is the case, why does Ross take steroids?

Would you take steroids if you had a product like this that you "knew" worked this well? I wouldn't ever touch anabolics again. This is better! This is legal!

There ya go, dabuffguy, I de-flawed my previous post for you. Happy? :)
 
I would like people to remember the amount of hate and resistance I got when a first started telling people about pp products. I will pull up some of the old threads later. It was crazy.
 
needtogetaas said:
I would like people to remember the amount of hate and resistance I got when a first started telling people about pp products. I will pull up some of the old threads later. It was crazy.

Did pp ever claim their products were better than dbol for gains?

Does pp have a product I can use to gain 7 lbs. in 10 days?
 
the_alcatraz said:
Muscle tech claims that it can add 7 lbs of lean muscle in 14 days not 10 :p


So an Omnibolic/Andogenerator/MuscleTech/CellTech stack should yeild better results than TEST at a high dose with NO SIDES!

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
So an Omnibolic/Andogenerator/MuscleTech/CellTech stack should yeild better results than TEST at a high dose with NO SIDES!

-Legacy

Offcourse not. No one is saying that. Well except for the generater of this thread :p

EDIT: I am NOT attacking the said person, but I"m expressing disbelief in his said product.
 
Yeah, I do not want to come off like I am attacking anyone PERSONALLY, I dont know ROSS, he might be a great guy. I am just HIGHLY SKEPTICAL of these claims and I am looking for BACKING to these claims from anyone who has used the products that werent given FREE bottles and that post other places than the products forums themselves.

These claims seem almost as good as The Roid Store and we all know how that turned out.

-Legacy
 
ceo said:
Did pp ever claim their products were better than dbol for gains?

Does pp have a product I can use to gain 7 lbs. in 10 days?

Dianabol is HIGHLY ANDROGENIC, of course it will produce more muscle mass and strength than Omnibolic. Omnibolic posseses ZERO androgenic activity and is thus MUCH weaker than Dianabol for total gains.

However, studies have demonstrated that the ANABOLIC effect of Dianabol is inferior to the anabolic effect of Ecdysterone, which speaks VOLUMES for Omnibolic's effectiveness as a NATURAL PRODUCT.
 
I have used androgenerator, but i will let you guys judge it for yourselves. I've been told that some products dont work for some people, but LIPOFLAME/AMPO2/DERM/SUSTAIN/AIFM/THERMOREX/PHYTO, ETC. all worked very well for me.
 
1500, So you mention the other products worked well....how did ANDRO work for YOU? Did it increase you penis size and add surges of test through your body, helping to increase muscle mass? And did it accomplish the 20+ other things that the label says it does?

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
1500, So you mention the other products worked well....how did ANDRO work for YOU? Did it increase you penis size and add surges of test through your body, helping to increase muscle mass? And did it accomplish the 20+ other things that the label says it does?

-Legacy

No, it did not.
 
1500 said:
I have used androgenerator, but i will let you guys judge it for yourselves. I've been told that some products dont work for some people, but LIPOFLAME/AMPO2/DERM/SUSTAIN/AIFM/THERMOREX/PHYTO, ETC. all worked very well for me.

1500, do not make me EXPOSE you, you have NEVER used AndroGenerator or Omnibolic, as PROVED on [mod edit: "another board"]. I can post the links if you wanna keep this up.

FYI, this guy 1500 also wrote a FAKE review for both of my products on CNW, as confirmed on [another board].
 
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if you plat guys wanna search, i posted that i used androgenerator/omnibolic, not meaning both products, but meaning as one in the same. Ross you only exposed me in your own mind. i've never written a fake review at all. Thats a pretty easy accusation to make about anyone who knows the truth about your product. YOu posted up some other guys info trying to intimidate, but it didnt work because it wasnt me. If you wanna keep this clean, you probably want to keep your mouth closed. Everyone else feel free to search ***********for same, i encourage you to, and you guys can make up your own minds. i have nothing to hide, unlike some of us :rolleyes: Im sure that i have alterior motives right :rolleyes: then why would i say that all these other products by other sponsors do work?
 
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I was never around for all the crap that took place when ross was banned but IMO looks like your run of the mill supplement. Flashy bottle, crazy gain claims, etc. Bottom line is, the supplements that work people take and buy, if this did what it said it did the whole world would be on it.
 
The people over at BB seem to have a REAL issues with Ross and his Supps. I wonder why? The more i research into this, the more confused I get lol

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
The people over at BB seem to have a REAL issues with Ross and his Supps. I wonder why? The more i research into this, the more confused I get lol

-Legacy

Plain and simple; one of my sales reps SPAMMED BB.com, that is why we took some bullshit over there.

OUR PRODUCTS WORK, bottom line. RESULTS SPEAK for themselves. We have been in business for over a year and the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.

Not to mention, I use my products year-round.
 
Post up some pics then for us as proof that they work better then steroids.
 
ceo said:
70 lbs? Probably more. Forgive me, it was very late when I wrote my other posts.

Say I'm a lean 220: (-20lbs fat), cut my head off (-10lbs), hang me upside down and drain my blood (-10lbs), peel off my skin Hannibal Lechter style (-10lbs), slice open my abdomen and pull all my intestines, stomach, liver, kidneys, heart, lungs, etc. out (-30lbs), de-bone me like a chicken and toss aside my skeleton (-30lbs).

That leaves me around 110 lbs of consumable flesh (hungry?). Now...IF you dried me out like beef jerky, then you'll probably get that dried out flesh to 70lbs, maybe a little less. But, let's not go that far.

So, I'm 110lbs of pure lean muscle, x 7% = 7.7lbs.

There's your 7lbs.

So Ross is telling me that if I take these pills that I can gain 7 lbs. in 10 days? Sign me up!

If this is the case, why does Ross take steroids?

Would you take steroids if you had a product like this that you "knew" worked this well? I wouldn't ever touch anabolics again. This is better! This is legal!

There ya go, dabuffguy, I de-flawed my previous post for you. Happy? :)


happy :)
 
Ross said:
OUR PRODUCTS WORK, bottom line. RESULTS SPEAK for themselves. We have been in business for over a year and the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.

Not to mention, I use my products year-round.

What about steroids? Do you use them too? If so, why? I mean, if your products do all they say they do, why would you use steroids?

What about drugs for PCT after your steroid cycles? Because according to your product claims you shouldn't need anything but your products.

Just curious.
 
ceo said:
What about steroids? Do you use them too? If so, why? I mean, if your products do all they say they do, why would you use steroids?

What about drugs for PCT after your steroid cycles? Because according to your product claims you shouldn't need anything but your products.

Just curious.
Thats kind of gay bro. I mean 90% of us on this board use aas even myself and we still use sups to. Hell I use tons of sups. I will use anything that can give me that little bit more.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
The people over at BB seem to have a REAL issues with Ross and his Supps. I wonder why? The more i research into this, the more confused I get lol

-Legacy
Please. I am not standing behind rosses products. But to even give a flying fuck what any one at bb.com has to say is a joke. That whole place is run by kids for kids. I thought qvc bought them out lol.
 
So the average person that signs up on BB must not matter. Im not talking about management, Im talking about threads and threads of people that seem to think Ross is a scam.

Im just trying to get information on a new product and information on a guy who seems to be banned LOTS of places.

Before I think about putting money into anything at any time I would like to have all the facts and their seems to be LOTS OF DRAMA surrounding these products and this guy.

Im just trying to get informed thats all, no matter which way it goes, I just like to know the truth.

Nothings wrong with that.

-Legacy
 
needtogetaas said:
Thats kind of gay bro. I mean 90% of us on this board use aas even myself and we still use sups to. Hell I use tons of sups. I will use anything that can give me that little bit more.


I think CEO was trying to make the point that if a someone that has 100 lbs of muscle tissue on them can add 7 lbs in 10 days, there should be no need for AAS. If this stuff can live up to THOSE claims, there wouldnt be the need for AAS since this stuff is SIDE EFFECT FREE.

I dont think he is downing people that use sups AND aas, because PP and OMEGA dont make claims such as the ones ROSS has made.

Thats all, I dont think he was trying to down aas/sup users.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
I think CEO was trying to make the point that if a someone that has 100 lbs of muscle tissue on them can add 7 lbs in 10 days, there should be no need for AAS. If this stuff can live up to THOSE claims, there wouldnt be the need for AAS since this stuff is SIDE EFFECT FREE.

I dont think he is downing people that use sups AND aas, because PP and OMEGA dont make claims such as the ones ROSS has made.

Thats all, I dont think he was trying to down aas/sup users.

-Legacy
Hell I do not know about the claims. I have even seen good sups make claims over there head and still turn out to be good sups.

I know ross likes to do and say things hat turn heads though lol. With that being said I myself will be giving his products a try like I do all products that come to this board.

I want people to understand something. I had the privilege of knowing ross years ago and working with him on this product(andro) . Not so much to the point where I am a part of it, but to the point where I talked with him on the phone man times about it and my thoughts went into it.

Still to this day I have never used the product though because we split ways for a wile. I am going to try it though. I give honest revues of all products I try. Its not like I sit here and say every product sold by our sponsors is great.

Poeple that know me best know that I don't push products hard unless I like them. Its just not in me to do so. Even though I work for pp you wont see me pushing dermatherm to much. Ya its a good product for some, But I don't like it so I won't push it. I love dermacrin/sustain alpha and there other products though. So I tell people to use them all the time. I do the same with every sponsor we have here. I only talk about the products I believe work.

So I can go to bed at night with a clear mind knowing I did the right thing. So
at the end of the day my name and who I am on this board can still be trusted. I will not give that up for no man,no product,and no money. I can make plenty of money doing the right thing.

So right now I am not backing the product, but I will try it and maybe I will back it some day soon.

I know ross as a person not just a poster. almost no one on this board can say that. From knowing him as a person. I can say I like the guy and his passion for the sport and the industry around it.
 
^^^
:-)

Exactly, and the average poster has to read posts to get info on the sups and designers, so as you know, it can get messy.

It hard to find the truth through internet websites ALOT of the time.

Thats why the ones of us who REALLY CARE, have to try to sift through all the garbage and try to get to the REAL answers!

I think that is all anyone is trying to do here.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
^^^
:-)

Exactly, and the average poster has to read posts to get info on the sups and designers, so as you know, it can get messy.

It hard to find the truth through internet websites ALOT of the time.

Thats why the ones of us who REALLY CARE, have to try to sift through all the garbage and try to get to the REAL answers!

I think that is all anyone is trying to do here.

-Legacy
Well when an product comes to this board its the norm for people to come out of the wood work and put it on blast. Hell I wish http://www.proteabody.com/
products would get the same kind of threads to lol. They are not bad. Infact they are good for them. Gets us all wondering.
 
ceo said:
Yeah guys you misread, a 7% increase in muscle, not 7 lbs. So, for me at 220 lbs. x 7% = 15.4 lbs.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many people here weigh 100 lbs? Because that's where your 7% would only = 7 lbs.

It's BETTER than 7 lbs.!!!!!!! It's twice as good for most of you!!!!! ORDER AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

lolololo...come on guys, I can't believe no one caught that, then you're all sitting there going, "oh, yeah 7%, not 7 lbs." Like 7% is somehow less??

Jesus, I need to come up with some shit to sell you gullible fools.


LMAO!!!!!!!!
 
dabuffguy said:
No, not a good post, a very flawed post.


I see what your saying but the claims that are being made give false hopes. Who is gunna figure up how much bones and organs weigh. LBM is weight minus your bodyfat %. So therefore CO is right.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
I also want to know if why these prducts work so well, no sites that dont sponsor him, have any reviews on the products.

BB and such HATE ROSS it seems and that seems to go for every other site that he is banned at.

But yet the products websites and sposors are all POSITIVE. Seems highly fishy either way.

-Legacy

PS: Plus it looks like almost every was done by people who used FREE bottles that were sent to them.

Ross was hated her as well. Then he broke forum rules by pushn his products through PMs. He was banned.

I have not been in the AAS forums alot lately but I come back and see this thread. I guess money makes wrong doings go away.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Yeah, I do not want to come off like I am attacking anyone PERSONALLY, I dont know ROSS, he might be a great guy. I am just HIGHLY SKEPTICAL of these claims and I am looking for BACKING to these claims from anyone who has used the products that werent given FREE bottles and that post other places than the products forums themselves.

These claims seem almost as good as The Roid Store and we all know how that turned out.

-Legacy


One thing about Ross is that when he was here and people called him names and disagreed with his theoires he did keep his cool. You gotta respect that. he kept the debates about the debates and did not do any name calling.
 
Ross said:
Plain and simple; one of my sales reps SPAMMED BB.com, that is why we took some bullshit over there.

OUR PRODUCTS WORK, bottom line. RESULTS SPEAK for themselves. We have been in business for over a year and the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.

Not to mention, I use my products year-round.


Doesnt HolyGhost work for you? Is the gangsta blood killa pushing your products?
 
Sorry but if he is pushing your stuff ross i would have a hard time buuying it. holy was funny but he gave bad bad bd advice to people. i dont trust him at all. he also threatend violence too. screw that



have you tried ads in flex and the like?
 
Pat_McCrotch said:
One thing about Ross is that when he was here and people called him names and disagreed with his theoires he did keep his cool. You gotta respect that. he kept the debates about the debates and did not do any name calling.
Yup. Thats what I am talking about. He shows nothing but respect to every one.
Even when being attacked.
 
Ross said:
Supreme Sports Enhancements DOES make WILD CLAIMS, because our products produce WILD RESULTS.

EVERYONE experiences incredible results, LOGS speak for themselves. We even offer a 100% Money Back GUARANTEE.

I will send you a bottle of each my friend, PM me your details.
i wanna try this stuff. send me some ross
 
Pat_McCrotch said:
Sorry but if he is pushing your stuff ross i would have a hard time buuying it. holy was funny but he gave bad bad bd advice to people. i dont trust him at all. he also threatend violence too. screw that



have you tried ads in flex and the like?
That was my problem with ghost. I told him to cut the shit and he could not do it.
 
needtogetaas said:
That was my problem with ghost. I told him to cut the shit and he could not do it.

lol all the k you gave to him went to waste, i wish i could have stolen it before he was banned.
 
8and20 said:
dont be mad cuz i am almost caught up to u :p
Bro I could put you in the dust at any time. I got over 8 mill in karma bonds :evil: And I can get k any time I need it on top of that. What I show is not what I have.
 
Pat_McCrotch said:
One thing about Ross is that when he was here and people called him names and disagreed with his theoires he did keep his cool. You gotta respect that. he kept the debates about the debates and did not do any name calling.

Too bad all the product pushers here aren't the same way. :)
 
Most of them are bt I know of who you speak of young grasshopper
 
needtogetaas said:
I give out free plats like candy yet my k never gos below yours. Can you do that? nope.

what if magically some of your endless karma disapears and appears into my karma? :) That would be sek-c...lol
 
Ecdysone side effects include gastrointestinal problems for both sexes, such as nausea, bloating, and diarrhoea.
 
who wants to shit water?
 
I have never heard of or experienced Ecdysterone causing gastrointestinal side effects.
 
ppl are just looking for flaws now lol almost every product has a side effect, creatine makes me shit sometimes too, and gives sore throats, guess creatine is a horrible product.
 
Pat_McCrotch said:
Ross was hated her as well. Then he broke forum rules by pushn his products through PMs. He was banned.

I have not been in the AAS forums alot lately but I come back and see this thread. I guess money makes wrong doings go away.

ha was also banned at AF
 
Ross said:
I have never heard of or experienced Ecdysterone causing gastrointestinal side effects.

Any and all oral meds or products can, ask a pharmacist. Could be a 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000 chance but still a chance.
 
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