OMG clen is strong!!

[redsamurai]

And the hunger!! holy shit. I guess this is what people were talking about when they say 'clen shakes"......it's almost an internal jitteryness.......like fuck when do I get go pull someone's spine through their mouths?? I've never had this effect from any AAS.....not test, dbol.....nothin!! I don't know how you're supposed to keep from eating like a horse though? Obviously I'm going to try eat clean, as I always do.....but when THAT kind of hunger strikes you......you just want to shovel food down your mouth. Has anyone felt clen this strong?? I've only taken about 40-50 mcg.....second day.....split it into two doses.....but didn't take them that far apart because I don't want to take this stuff to close to bedtime.

 

[Twoguns]

funny . . . . clen suppresses my appetite.

 

[youngguns]

cant wait to hear some replys..

 

[52_21_30]

Are you sure you're taking clen? This sounds like T3 to me.

 

[redsamurai]

Are you sure you're taking clen? This sounds like T3 to me.

I have to admit I don't know exactly what T3 is.....I knew guys here advised taking it with clen. But i got 4 bottles of clen from a reputable "research company"...sells IGF and all sorts of peptides. So the bottle say's clen.....and I know clen is not expensive to make so I don't know why they'd fake it. I'll only talk about em in a pm though....

 

[52_21_30]

Ok well how are you measuring it? I personally wouldnt touch clen, but even if i did it would have to be pharm grade pills, just so i know the dose is exact.

 

[redsamurai]

Ok well how are you measuring it? I personally wouldnt touch clen, but even if i did it would have to be pharm grade pills, just so i know the dose is exact.

It's liquid tren....100mcg/ml.....measure it out with a needle.

 

[redsamurai]

and why wouldn't you touch clen?

 

[MR. BMJ]

I'd try to get the most out of your first Clen cycle.....effects are just never the same after that initial encounter....although still effective to some degree.

BMJ

 

[lartinos]

Clen has some of the harshest sides of anything I have taken. I much prefer t3, but clen can comein handy coming off t3 for sure.

 

[52_21_30]

and why wouldn't you touch clen?

You can get the same if not better results from an ECA stack. The sides are troublesome, especially the cardiac cell death. I like my heart muscles.

 

[jeb0177]

I get biiiig strong fuking headhaches from clen the first week. do it 2wk on 2off.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

How much did you take for your first dose?

 

[lartinos]

magnesium for headaches can help some

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Are you sure you're taking clen? This sounds like T3 to me.

a possibility.. certainly would not be the first time that such bottles have been mislabeled.

 

[52_21_30]

a possibility.. certainly would not be the first time that such bottles have been mislabeled.

If it is indeed T3 then starting at 40-50 mcg on day 1 would certainly explain these symptoms. Any higher and he'd be running a good risk of a thyroid storm.

 

[redsamurai]

today has been much milder....even took a slightly higher dose. I think the hunger may have been the result of the clen going after my carb stores??

I've lost 6 pounds in the last 2 days......unreal. And it can't be all water because all the water from my cycle that ended a few weeks ago was pretty much all gone. Can someone further explain how clen affects your heart muscles? And is this dose dependant or just long term use?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

yes it can be mostly water, you have a lot of body water that is not from being on cycle.

 

[redsamurai]

yes it can be mostly water, you have a lot of body water that is not from being on cycle.

you guys sell something called alcarr right? was that what you were recommending when people take clen?

 

[52_21_30]

today has been much milder....even took a slightly higher dose. I think the hunger may have been the result of the clen going after my carb stores??

I've lost 6 pounds in the last 2 days......unreal. And it can't be all water because all the water from my cycle that ended a few weeks ago was pretty much all gone. Can someone further explain how clen affects your heart muscles? And is this dose dependant or just long term use?

Clen has long been known to cause cardiac myocardial apoptosis. That being said, I have not read any studies in which people died from clen use related to cardiac apoptosis, cardiomyopathy, etc. You can do a google, medline, pubmed search and probably find studies pertinent to the topic.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you guys sell something called alcarr right? was that what you were recommending when people take clen?

the AFSTORE sells ALCAR and yes its reccomended with clen for its cardio protective effects. Clenbuterol at usage dosages, 1mg/kg, has been shown to cause apoptosis of cardiac tissue.

 

[redsamurai]

the AFSTORE sells ALCAR and yes its reccomended with clen for its cardio protective effects. Clenbuterol at usage dosages, 1mg/kg, has been shown to cause apoptosis of cardiac tissue.

1mg!!! I'm taking 50-60mcg.....

 

[macrophage69alpha]

1mcg/kg (typo)

 

[ole farte']

You can get the same if not better results from an ECA stack. The sides are troublesome, especially the cardiac cell death. I like my heart muscles.

Whoa, cardiac cell death, bad fucking headaches.........i think i'll pass on the clen. i am however taking 75mcg of t-4 haven't noticed any bad sides in 5 days

 

[redsamurai]

1mcg/kg (typo)

it's shown to do all that at 1mcg??

 

[52_21_30]

it's shown to do all that at 1mcg??

No, at 1 mcg per kg of bodyweight.

 

[redsamurai]

No, at 1 mcg per kg of bodyweight.

god dammit, i don't want to have break out the conversions........I'm about 283-285 pnds.......can anyone convert for me?

 

[52_21_30]

god dammit, i don't want to have break out the conversions........I'm about 283-285 pnds.......can anyone convert for me?

Translates into about 125-130 mcg.