djeclipse
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This is certainly debatable and probably will end up being a personal decision. Rippetoe himself says in SS 2nd edition that unless you are training specifically for the bench press event in a powerlifting meet that the DB press is a better movement for any other purpose (e.g. mass and strength).
Your point of load however cannot be ignored. There is no other freeweight press where you can load as much weight on as the flat barbell bench press.
I personally use DB press and heavy weighted dips as the basis of my chest training due to the injuries i've experienced and many others have experienced, with the flat BB bench press. Of course this problem doesn't exist until you start adding some significant weight to the bar so i would still recommend a beginner to start with flat bench press.
Ya, this debate can get ugly fast, lol
But if you were able to do flat bench, had no injury, pain etc. would you still to Dumbell press or would you go back to putting up big numbers on the bench press?
Difficult topic. I still wouldn't compare it to squats or deads. If anything the standing press would be the upperbody comparison.
I agree 100%, standing military press (Over head press, or what ever you want to call it) would be more comparable to squats and deads as you are at least using your core to stabilize the weight over your head, where flat bench you are simply pressing. There is one vido on youtube where Rppetoe even says the over head press is a better indicator for pressing strength than the bench. But universities and NFL use the flat bench as a measuring tool, and the bench is now we develop those "chesticles".