old school need cycle help..

[small but working on it]

stats# late 30's, was gym rat, hs football team, comfortable with gym, totally healthy,five foot 10, 195lbs, 13-15 percent bf, 33 inch waist, naturally muscular. been out game for few years, work and shoulder and knee issue both 100 percent now. Been back in gym 2 months, lost a bit of muscle as I have been inclining 7 degrees at 4 mph for an hour 3 days a week to cut up a bit but have increased protein intake and been lifting heavy for last 4 or 5 weeks and feel good, getting size back and strength is better.

2 cycles back in 07 and o8, both omnadren 12 weeker, dbol 4 week kickstart, nolvadex pct, kept 80 percent. Had adex on hand for gyno(not needed)just in case. I had clomid but was leary about becoming too emotional so nolvadex was my choice. Didn't do hcg before, although I considered it, now don't know what to have on hand as there are dozens of products available now and I just want to get a solid pct at my age, I am not wanting to shut natty down and end up being on hrt from here on out. I have used ag guys before and had good and bad luck but apparently the newest links are positive. Gonna do test e for 12 weeks with no kickstart, no access so I know its a 4 or 5 week window for any results but it is what it is. Thoughts on cycle and pct and if hcg is mandatory or if there are newer products out that are gonna be beneficial to me. Thanks for the advice in advance, if I forgot any info, please ask, I will respond quickly. cheers

 

[lubster27]

I would suggest running around 30 mg of dbol for the first five weeks but if you really can't get it then it's no problem. I would also really suggest doing 50 mg of anavar for the last six or so weeks and if you can't get a hold of it then run oxandrovar for the last six weeks by doing two caps a day for four weeks then three caps for three weeks.

Pct should be
Nolva 40/30/20/20
Clomid 50/25/25/25
I would also look at some other otc pct's for extra support

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[small but working on it]

thanks for the input, I know I should have a kicker but like I said it is what it is, that's what I am looking for in lieu of... btw, its gonna be 500 mg a week. After looking at some threads, there are some massive cycles around since I was all over the site.

 

[lubster27]

Still get some oxandrovar or epistane for the end of your cycle to cut up a bit

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[small but working on it]

yeah, I was reading up on it.... lots of new stuff since 2010....

 

[small but working on it]

bump, need help fellas...

 

[C0LUMB0]

stats# late 30's, was gym rat, hs football team, comfortable with gym, totally healthy,five foot 10, 195lbs, 13-15 percent bf, 33 inch waist, naturally muscular. been out game for few years, work and shoulder and knee issue both 100 percent now. Been back in gym 2 months, lost a bit of muscle as I have been inclining 7 degrees at 4 mph for an hour 3 days a week to cut up a bit but have increased protein intake and been lifting heavy for last 4 or 5 weeks and feel good, getting size back and strength is better.

2 cycles back in 07 and o8, both omnadren 12 weeker, dbol 4 week kickstart, nolvadex pct, kept 80 percent. Had adex on hand for gyno(not needed)just in case. I had clomid but was leary about becoming too emotional so nolvadex was my choice. Didn't do hcg before, although I considered it, now don't know what to have on hand as there are dozens of products available now and I just want to get a solid pct at my age, I am not wanting to shut natty down and end up being on hrt from here on out. I have used ag guys before and had good and bad luck but apparently the newest links are positive. Gonna do test e for 12 weeks with no kickstart, no access so I know its a 4 or 5 week window for any results but it is what it is. Thoughts on cycle and pct and if hcg is mandatory or if there are newer products out that are gonna be beneficial to me. Thanks for the advice in advance, if I forgot any info, please ask, I will respond quickly. cheers

You are only back in the gym 2 months bro, you will need more time to condition your muscles, tendons, ligaments etc before stressing them with the added strength from an AAS cycle.
I would train natty for atleast another 6 months before jumping on gear.

 

[EZ_E]

2 months and you wanna use aas?

 

[small but working on it]

2 months and you wanna use aas?

2 months BACK. I have lifted for years and years. I am already lifting heavy again and feel great. I have long lost the initial soreness and am now lifting heavy for last 5 or 6 weeks. You guys really think I need 6 more months natty before I jump on another cycle. I am getting size back but already feel its a lot slower than I could be with gear. Pushing 40 so my gains are a lot slower than a 25 yr old, I have done a few cycles, a lot of research before and after, just wanting a good cycle thought and pct for my age. cheers

 

[EZ_E]

6 months will go by quick, 4 more months really....I'm a better safe than sorry kinda guy....

And I hit 40 last year, I can sympathize!