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OK, started the new fat loss supplement: DERMATHERM!!!

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hey guys, I received my bottle of Primordial Performance's new fat loss product on sat. I started using it on Sunday night. First off, let me tell you, this is like now other fat loss product I've ever used. I followed the directions, it tells you to use 1 squirt for every 20 lbs of body weight. (It is recommended that you apply the lotion after you get out of the shower, or at least 5 hours before you take a shower.) That's 10 handfulls of this lotion. YOU have to rub it in all over your body, very quickly, becuase it evaporates really quick once it is on your body. So, there I am, I just rubbed it 10 squirts, and it did cover my entire body and then some. the first thing I noticed was the smell, you know when you were a little kid and use to eat those red hot fireballs, well, thats what your entire body smells like, a big cinnamin red hot. Immediately after rubbing it in, my skin stated to get really hot, I mean it was stinging, I felt like my body temperature went up by 2 degrees, I started sweating, and my skin felt really tight. This lasted for about 60 to 75 minutes and then it started to go back to normal. My skin was visably red too. Its definitly a different kind of feeling.
I repeated the application Monday night and tonight, with the same results. From what I've read, you are suppossed to start seeing a skin tightening effect after 7-10 days. Maybe I'm just eager for this stuff to work, but my skin feels tighter already.
Just to let you know what I'm doing in conjunction with this new DERMATHERM, I'm running 1 gram of test (omnas) ew, with 600 mg eq ew, 400 mg tren hex ew, and 50 mg of winny ed. I'm using clen on a 2 on 2 off schedule, with thermorexin being used during the off weeks of the clen cycle. My diet is really strict, 7 meals per day, 3 solid food meals with 2 Lean Body shakes, 1 post workout shake ( just protein) , and 1 protein shake before bed. I am keeping my carbs down to about 150-200 gram per day, with no carbs after my post workout meal (around 7 pm). I'm taking the usual creatine, glutamine, amino acids, taurine, potassium (both for clen sides), omega 3 caps, b6, b12, glucosamine chondrointon, msm, vit c, vit e, I think thats all. Also, doing cardio at least 4-5 times per week for 20 minutes after working out.
OK, I've rambled on enough, I"ll keep this log updated every couple of days to let you know how the DERMATHERM is doing. I took before pics, and will take after pics later. Later on brothers.....

ironclaw
 
With all that gear and the Clen and the thermorexin, how will you be able to tell if the Dermatherm is responsible for any fat loss you may (and probably will) experience?
 
orat said:
With all that gear and the Clenbuterol and the thermorexin, how will you be able to tell if the Dermatherm is responsible for any fat loss you may (and probably will) experience?
Throw in some DNP and it will work great !! JK Probably isnt a relevant test unless it is more controlled.
 
orat said:
With all that gear and the Clenbuterol and the thermorexin, how will you be able to tell if the Dermatherm is responsible for any fat loss you may (and probably will) experience?

Good point, but I think everybody is well aware of what products like Clenbuterol or thermorexin can do. Results from these drugs/supplements are minimal, so if he starts dropping BF% digits we know its not just from the Clenbuterol or cheap stims alone. DermaTherm doesn’t have any appetite suppressant or stimulant properties so using something like this will greatly increase results by synergy.

I did ask the testers not to use dnp - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - or T3/T4, a s those drugs would be doing similar things a s the DermaTherm and this would likely be thermo overkill.

Ironclaw, just to be clear, we want you to apply the product right after the shower, and then wait ATLEAST 5 hours before showing again. It would be better to wait 24hrs before showing again though…

-Pp
 
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orat said:
With all that gear and the Clenbuterol and the thermorexin, how will you be able to tell if the Dermatherm is responsible for any fat loss you may (and probably will) experience?

I agree... hopefully there are other testers that are using DermaTherma alone to give a true indication of its effectiveness.

Thanks Ironclaw
 
I am trying it also,


First day, I simply rubbed it in, but yesterday,

I did not use the pump and got a burn, think I will use the pump today.


I have a decent amount of muscle, but need to seriously drop 20 lbs; maybe I should drink the stuff.


Have an appetite suppressant coming, also


Will keep you posted on the results.
 
What is the deal with the board, keeps me going in circles, type a post and then end up re-reading it,

How do you get back to the general discussion board?
 
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It is like a bad dream,
 
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It is like a bad dream,
What is that about?
Uggghhh, it's so annoying!!!
 
Give us some time to workout the new features.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Give us some time to workout the new features.
Is there a reason for this redirecting feature?
This is one of the only boards that didin't make you view your post before getting back to the main page, and that's one of the reasons I liked EF so much.
It's just a nussience (sp).
 
njmuscleguy said:
I agree... hopefully there are other testers that are using DermaTherma alone to give a true indication of its effectiveness.

Thanks Ironclaw

Sometime it seems that the DermaTherm actually makes me hungrier so that’s why I suggesting stacking it with an appetite suppressant. It will help a lot.

-Pp
 
Faizakafez said:
So its a topical fat loss lotion thingy?

what about that targex shit last year that was comeplete horseshit

Its a topical lotion, but it works very differently than Targex. FYI, I actually heard some good things about that stuff.

Ill be making a post tonight about the DermaTherm ingredients and their action.

-Pp
 
Faizakafez said:
So its a topical fat loss lotion thingy?

what about that targex shit last year that was comeplete horseshit


?


I heard TragetX was good stuff, haven't heard anything different.



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Primordial Performance said:
Good point, but I think everybody is well aware of what products like Clenbuterol or thermorexin can do. Results from these drugs/supplements are minimal, so if he starts dropping BF% digits we know its not just from the Clenbuterol or cheap stims alone. DermaTherm doesn’t have any appetite suppressant or stimulant properties so using something like this will greatly increase results by synergy.

I did ask the testers not to use dnp - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - or T3/T4, a s those drugs would be doing similar things a s the DermaTherm and this would likely be thermo overkill.

Ironclaw, just to be clear, we want you to apply the product right after the shower, and then wait ATLEAST 5 hours before showing again. It would be better to wait 24hrs before showing again though…

-Pp

hey PP, that's exactly what I am doing, I take a shower and then apply the Dermatherm before bed. And, you did recommend that I take a appetite suppressent and Or stimulant in conjunction with the product. So that is what I am doing. I"ve done clen 3 different times, so I know what to expect from it when it comes to fat loss. the thermorexin is new to me, so I won't know how much to attribute to its' use. Bottom line, I'll be able to tell if this product is working in a couple of weeks, I hope it lives up to its' hype.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
?


I heard TragetX was good stuff, haven't heard anything different.



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i no two people that used it both females and it didnt do jack so i'm not sure one of the guys i no that used said it was decent.. so i dunno
 
Primordial Performance said:
Good point, but I think everybody is well aware of what products like Clenbuterol or thermorexin can do. Results from these drugs/supplements are minimal, so if he starts dropping BF% digits we know its not just from the Clenbuterol or cheap stims alone. DermaTherm doesn’t have any appetite suppressant or stimulant properties so using something like this will greatly increase results by synergy.

I did ask the testers not to use dnp - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - or T3/T4, a s those drugs would be doing similar things a s the DermaTherm and this would likely be thermo overkill.

Ironclaw, just to be clear, we want you to apply the product right after the shower, and then wait ATLEAST 5 hours before showing again. It would be better to wait 24hrs before showing again though…

-Pp

I am interested in ordering some dermatherm, is there any way for me to pre-order it for the 6/1/07 release? i have been on the website but i dont see anything like that. also, you did mention that it is okay for women right? dont want any issues with extra hair, etc. :-)
 
wannabe2000 said:
I am interested in ordering some dermatherm, is there any way for me to pre-order it for the 6/1/07 release? i have been on the website but i dont see anything like that. also, you did mention that it is okay for women right? dont want any issues with extra hair, etc. :-)


Yes, there are no androgenic properties from the DermaTherm.

It is ready for pre-order now.

www.primordialperformance.com

-Pp
 
Does it smell good? I noticed that it's got Rasberry Ketone in it, which is in Biotest's fat-burner (I forgot the name)...it makes the stuff smell pretty good, which is important for a topical I think.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, there are no androgenic properties from the DermaTherm.

It is ready for pre-order now.

www.primordialperformance.com

-Pp



I would just like to say that your website is fucking awesome.
I have seen many companies neglect to give their customers a nice website for them to shop at. Your site is top notch, worthy of your products. Congrats!
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Does it smell good? I noticed that it's got Rasberry Ketone in it, which is in Biotest's fat-burner (I forgot the name)...it makes the stuff smell pretty good, which is important for a topical I think.

Id does smell good once the alcohol evaporates in the first couple minutes, but most of the raspberry ketone smell is over powered by the the cinnamaldehyde. So it kinda has a sweet “Big Red” smell to it.

-Pp
 
how long does the smell last and does it smell strong.

Hey PP I ordered the stuff over the weekend and needto told me when it would get to me approx but i erased that PM i think. What is the ship date. ill do a post as well and update. Thanks bro.
 
errn247 said:
how long does the smell last and does it smell strong.

Hey PP I ordered the stuff over the weekend and needto told me when it would get to me approx but i erased that PM i think. What is the ship date. ill do a post as well and update. Thanks bro.

The DermaTherm will ship out tomorrow (1st).

It takes about 2-3 hours for the cinnamaldehyde smell to go away... but so far even in that time frame it hasnt been a problem for testers, as far as others noticing.

-Pp
 
I'm so F-ing inconsistent with steroids, supps, etc...I wish I could use something like Derma, but if I miss my weekly shot, I know I won't rub something on me once a day (or more); which is unfortunate, because it looks like a good product.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I'm so F-ing inconsistent with steroids, supps, etc...I wish I could use something like Derma, but if I miss my weekly shot, I know I won't rub something on me once a day (or more); which is unfortunate, because it looks like a good product.

Do what I do: keep the bottle of Dermacrine next to your toothbrush.

Unless you don't brush your teeth every morning. :sick:
 
PP, thanx for getting the bottle out to me so quickly!

I sprayed on the product last night after my night time shower... I did feel a bit of the burning sensation some folks talk about. Nothing really major, just a little redness that went away within minutes. DermaTherm just felt like right after you shave and put on some cologne, the alcohol tingle could never keep me from using the product.

In the morning I took a showers and then went to work with the DermaTherm pump again! I gotta say it felt pretty nice applying the product after taking a nice fresh shower. I may be crazy but I LOVE the smell... I said LOVE the smell! that Raspberry Ketone in the formula gives off a really nice smell! I found myself pulling at my shirt collar trying to catch a whiff of the subtle Raspberry scent. It wears off pretty quickly, but its nice while its there...

All in all I'm pretty happy with how easy the product is to use right now. I will keep up with the progress and let you guys know how it is working... Right now I'm stacking it with LipoFlame AND Anthony's Myo+Cyo Test boosting stack. I'm giving all of these supps a good try, only time will tell if they stack well with my hard work and dedication in the gym.


I will keep you all posted and will post pics once I'm done.
 
good thread.
Hey Iron any update?
 
Primordial Performance said:
The DermaTherm will ship out tomorrow (1st).

It takes about 2-3 hours for the cinnamaldehyde smell to go away... but so far even in that time frame it hasnt been a problem for testers, as far as others noticing.

-Pp


Thanks bro. i just got the UPS tracking. Ill keep you posted/
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Does it smell good? I noticed that it's got Rasberry Ketone in it, which is in Biotest's fat-burner (I forgot the name)...it makes the stuff smell pretty good, which is important for a topical I think.
hey anthony, yes it smells, but not like rasberries, it smells like cinnamin, actually like a red hot. but this only lasts for a couple of hours at the most.
 
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