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Otter2

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Well, I have gathered my information and I think I am ready to post up my 1st cycle plans and see what you all think...

I am 26 years old, 5'9",~170 pounds, 7% BF, bench ~225, leg press ~415....I eat ~3500 Calories/day in 5 meals....30% fat, 30% carbs, 40% protein....

250mg testosterone enthanate /week 10 weeks
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -
Week 14 : 150mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 15 : 100mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 16 : 50mg of Clomid ED, 20mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 17 : 50mg of Clomid ED , 20mg of Tamoxifen ED

What anti-aromatizing should I use ...is Clomid ok or should I use Liquidex or something?

edit: changed cal from 1500 to 3500...typo
 
how are you 170 pounds for eating 1500 cals a day dude? i weigh 160 and eat 3500-4000 a day.... then again im a major ectomorph.
 
Otter2 said:
Well, I have gathered my information and I think I am ready to post up my 1st cycle plans and see what you all think...

I am 26 years old, 5'9",~170 pounds, 7% BF, bench ~225, leg press ~415....I eat ~3500 Calories/day in 5 meals....30% fat, 30% carbs, 40% protein....

250mg testosterone enthanate /week 10 weeks
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -
Week 14 : 150mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 15 : 100mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 16 : 50mg of Clomid ED, 20mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 17 : 50mg of Clomid ED , 20mg of Tamoxifen ED

What anti-aromatizing should I use ...is Clomid ok or should I use Liquidex or something?

edit: changed cal from 1500 to 3500...typo


Read This It will help you make an informed choice..
 
With such a small amount of test, you won't need an entire month of clomid. And you don't have to use the nolvadex -- just have it on hand in case you need it (and in this case, it's unlikely you will).

You probably won't need to worry about aromatization at your doses.



:cow:
 
samoth said:
With such a small amount of test, you won't need an entire month of clomid. And you don't have to use the nolvadex -- just have it on hand in case you need it (and in this case, it's unlikely you will).

You probably won't need to worry about aromatization at your doses.



:cow:


Should I go ahead and up the dose to 500mg/wk...I've been told by alot of people that 500mg is the best to start inj mon/thurs 250...would that sound better?

Ezekiel...that sticky is what made me have 2nd thoughts about the Clomid/Tam and maybe just use Liquidex
 
samoth said:
With such a small amount of test, you won't need an entire month of clomid. And you don't have to use the nolvadex -- just have it on hand in case you need it (and in this case, it's unlikely you will).

You probably won't need to worry about aromatization at your doses.



:cow:

AWESOME haha. I am planning on a 250 a wk cycle for my first. I love this site, I would have made a lot of mistakes regarding steroid use & PCT - post cycle therapy - as well, without it. Good luck to you on your first cycle bro.
 
Finally....someone who did some fucking homework, and rrripped he did say that he ate around 3500 kcal a day........

Use a-dex or letro (be super careful with letro)......as you gain weight don't forget to up your calories........welcome and good luck
 
holy ghost said:
have fun using that much clomid

hope youre not moody


Yeah.........I have become a huge fan of letro......even on 50mg of dbol a day, I still feel relatively "dry", with very little bloat at 1.25mg eod
 
Otter2 said:
Should I go ahead and up the dose to 500mg/wk...I've been told by alot of people that 500mg is the best to start inj mon/thurs 250...would that sound better?

Ezekiel...that sticky is what made me have 2nd thoughts about the Clomid/Tam and maybe just use Liquidex


lol .. Actually me too! I am skipping the clomid for my upcoming PCT and going w/ HCG, Nolv & Dermicrine Sust.

I would up the dose as you said as well... Although I have seen a post or two that suggested you could get good gains w/ 250 as well.. But I am no expert!
 
holy ghost said:
have fun using that much clomid

hope youre not moody


Clomid's very funny. Either it really works for you or not at all. I'm one who loves clomid with none of the moodiness sides. That having been said, 250 mg/wk is a dose that you don't need the clomid with. Very smart start, bro. It's good to see people maing informed decisions.
 
250 mg's/week is a light cycle. I'm doing 480 mg's E9D for my first right now and I'm growing like a beast. I would up the test a little, in between 300-500 mg's per week. Use A-dex .5ml's EOD and have Femera - letrozole - on hand just in case. You only get one first cycle...

Keep your diet in check and you'll do well. Best of luck to you... :)
 
beenieman said:
250 mg's/week is a light cycle. I'm doing 480 mg's E9D for my first right now and I'm growing like a beast. I would up the test a little, in between 300-500 mg's per week. Use A-dex .5ml's EOD and have Femera - letrozole - on hand just in case. You only get one first cycle...

Keep your diet in check and you'll do well. Best of luck to you... :)


So I think I will change my anti-aromatase to Liquidex and thake it .5mg ED through the 250 cycle or 1mg ED through the 500mg....

Do I continue this for PCT weeks 14-18? Or should I change the dosage...I'm kinda confused now
 
Otter2 said:
So I think I will change my anti-aromatase to Liquidex and thake it .5mg ED through the 250 cycle or 1mg ED through the 500mg....

Do I continue this for PCT - post cycle therapy - weeks 14-18? Or should I change the dosage...I'm kinda confused now


Keep the liquidex at .5 ED or EoD, 1ml/day is probally too much. You have to see what works for you and how your body reacts to gear and ancillaries. Ask Needto or Mac173 about your cycle and PCT, they are both good bro's with a shitload of experience.

My PCT:
HCG 10 days straight 500iu's/day
Derma
Nolva
 
Otter2 said:
Well, I have gathered my information and I think I am ready to post up my 1st cycle plans and see what you all think...

I am 26 years old, 5'9",~170 pounds, 7% BF, bench ~225, leg press ~415....I eat ~3500 Calories/day in 5 meals....30% fat, 30% carbs, 40% protein....

250mg testosterone enthanate /week 10 weeks
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -
Week 14 : 150mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 15 : 100mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 16 : 50mg of Clomid ED, 20mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 17 : 50mg of Clomid ED , 20mg of Tamoxifen ED

What anti-aromatizing should I use ...is Clomid ok or should I use Liquidex or something?

edit: changed cal from 1500 to 3500...typo
so your goal is to get big then use clomid to kill yourself...nice..


that dose is way way to dame high bro start out with 50mg ed not 150 you trying to go blind.
 
needtogetaas said:
so your goal is to get big then use clomid to kill yourself...nice..


that dose is way way to dame high bro start out with 50mg ed not 150 you trying to go blind.

lol ......... I almost fell outta my chair!
 
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